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Onion Nuggetz 7/14/23 - Special Guest Dylan Burns

🕑 Added 2023-07-14 20:31:36 +0000 UTC

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Jake Garner

Citation in a patron comment section? 🤣

Tia Weist

Literally listen to Paul??? He says it all the time lol.

Jarl Sloof

No, as in he tried to talk like Vaush and copy his mannerisms

Neebsz

Act like Vaush as in actually researching a topic instead of just reacting on the fly to news?

Neebsz

"Ngl it's probably going to be really hard to convince me that we should be involved with Ukraine" "I ain't reading all of that" The joke writes itself.

Skuzzy

Citation please.

Señor Dipped Wick

I thoroughly enjoyed the show. Definitely like the guest format right now.

Benjamin Whyley

Danny smith didn’t put words in your mouth Paul. I’ve literally heard you say that. You’ve said in the past year that people who support Ukraine’s right to defend themselves are pro war. You’ve literally said that. Stop moving the goal posts and using the motte and Bailey fallacy. I was there when you said it. Don’t try to rewrite history.

Poop Poop

⚖️ 💪👍 Pooooop 💩

Nico Monkey

Acckhhually, it's pronounced "Oukra-gina". Get your facts straight 😡😡😡

TurtleDrone

Fuck what these other ungrateful tards are saying, I enjoyed it. It's nice to see new faces on the show, and I like the fact that you guys want people with some intelligence.

RJH

Can the Ukraine subject be buried now? This feels like a proper finale to it.

Breonna Rice

But I digress. You're kind of correct that I assume basic decency of people and it's naive to do so. I just struggle to comprehend that mind state where even your own truth doesn't matter. Nothing matters. How do they not believe in anything? Are they just psychopaths?

Breonna Rice

I think right-wing politicians (and any politician really) want power, and the right-wing citizens just gobble up whatever their favorite talking heads say. Most of the average right-wing people just seem very stupid and unengaged in doing their part as a responsible cog in democracy. They don't research shit, they just go to church, eat hot chip, and lie... However, some of them are evil fucks who want their slaves back. And the liberals generally seem hung up on civility and they will whine about debate stage decorum and maintaining the same old shit until we're all dead.

Andrew Yoo

I like Popeyes. :)

Samuel Wright

So there was some great conversation in this video. I would like to contribute to it a tad. I found a relevant story that Paul might enjoy reading. It's about a bootcamp, a DI is a Drill Instructor. Had a buddy once in Idaho say that someone in his group farted. DI asked who it was. Guy said it was him. DI told him he had to go around and look for his fart. After 15 minutes or so, the guy felt embarrassed running around looking for a fart so he pretended to catch his fart in his hands and reported back. DI looked at him incredulously and asked him "You found your fart?" The guy said he had. DI then instructed him to dig a hole in the ground to bury it. After it was buried, the DI instructed him to hum Taps.

Japester

If we encouraged Ukraine to just give up territory and we left them on their own THAT would be appeasement, no?

sean meldrum

If "The Ukraine" is considered to be an offensive term to Ukrainians, because their country's new name is "Ukraine," Why doesn't their new name get the same level of effort and respect as someone's new pronoun. If I kept misgendering someone because I'm so used to calling them by their former pronoun, it would be considered intolerable for me to be do casual like, "Meh. I might slip up a bunch and keep calling her "he" over the course of this conversation, but, you know." Isn't Ukraine's new name just as important as someone's new pronoun?

Benjamin Whyley

What about humanitarian aid? Giving them food and clothes and toys and stuff? There are millions of people who’ve been tortured, maimed, murdered and have lost everything and our compassion is the least we can give them.

Benjamin Whyley

He’s actually in Ukraine. He’s got more balls than you.

Benjamin Whyley

You’re either a troll or a fucking insane psychopath

Benjamin Whyley

You’re making a common error in judgment: right wingers don’t care about truth, morality, ethics, logic or reason. They reject empiricism. All they care about is power. You assume they act in good faith because that’s what you would do. They don’t. That’s why there are so many contradictions in their ideology. It’s because they have no ideology other than a lust for power.

Benjamin Whyley

I’m 20 mins in and I’m not getting that impression at all. I think you’re hearing what you want to hear

Benjamin Whyley

When a spoiled child stamps their feet you don’t give them what they want. That just makes the problem worse. It teaches them that throwing a tantrum is a good strategy to get their own way.

Benjamin Whyley

Giving territory to Russia is called appeasement. Appeasement has never worked historically. Russia wasn’t happy with just having Crimea and they won’t be happy with Ukraine either. They will just want more and more land. It’s what empires do. You give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. It’s not theoretical anymore. There’s historical precedent for it. All of human history. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement

Benjamin Whyley

Maybe there’s a reason for that.

Japester

This isn't mere appeasement, though. We (as in NATO) would be gaining quite a foothold. This would stabilize Ukraine and put the alliance right at Russia's border. Putin would have to threaten the entirety of NATO. But in any case this didn't happen so it's a moot point.

Jordan Healey

Dylan researched and understood the thing he was talking about while most streamers just riff about a subject with barely any knowledge.

Jordan Healey

I think he's way better than Vaush from what I've seen.

Tommy Freeboy

I don't care. Need better topics bitches.

Fulano Ferria

Me: sweet life sucks a bit less. Paul, Teejay, and that one guest guy: $alien helicopters$ and $nuclear fallout hidie holes$ and $gushings of varying intensities$

Benjamin Whyley

Appeasement never works. Paul’s opinions are ahistorical. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He’s unironically an acktually guy.

Benjamin Whyley

Major dunning Kruger effect going on with the anti Ukraine side.

Benjamin Whyley

You’re the kind of person that would have been neutral on the Nazis invading Poland. Accusing people of being liberals and capitalists is just a thought terminating cliche on the left. Mental laziness. No intellectual curiosity. It’s what conservatives do.

Jarl Sloof

The more I’ve listened, the more I realized how hard he’s trying to act like Vaush

Marc Geener

Do you think Dylan dipped his wick off of this appearance?

William Steadman

I don't care much about the Ukraine shit because I'm geopolitically retarded, but it was a huge breathe of fresh air seeing a guest one the show It would be nice to see more of this even if it's like an every other month or so thing

William Trowbridge

Because he's full of candy right? ...right??

William Trowbridge

Cope lol

William Trowbridge

I really appreciate y'all being willing to hash this shit out. While I do agree with Dylan more generally I have a much better understanding of what tj and paul think about it. I understand your concerns and absolutely agree there is plenty of room for skepticism and cynicism about us involvement. Im glad I could hear this discussion at lenght.

Helm Burte

I fucking wipe my shitty fucking ass with the Ukrainian flag.

Helm Burte

dude, fuck the ukraine. Death to ukraine!

Jarl Sloof

I love yall and don’t necessarily disagree with yall, but he made much better points.

Marc Geener

Please keep guests limited to subject matter experts or notable people, like Boll and Burns. The last podcast had so many bland no-names just for the sake of having a guest. No guests just there along for the ride, have them there for a purpose.

Gilly

You're looking good today, Poop Poop! Have you lost weight?

The True Nihilist

I'm glad you guys were willing to have a debate on this topic, its the one issue I disagree with you guys on I'm glad you were willing to hash out this position, even if I still don't agree with you.

Breonna Rice

The right-wingers' opinion on their politicians strikes me as very slippery. I personally have a hard time getting a sense of what sort of thing will win or lose their support. DeSantis seems so much more competent than Trump, albeit less charismatic. Mike Pence... I don't know much about him except he dislikes the LGBT and people hated that he didn't support Trump's election fraud claims. Trump is fascinating. I guess his childish bully personality is who right-wingers are? Who they want to be and who they want to lead America? Do you think if DeSantis abandoned all professionalism, he'd gain popularity? Fuck imagine if our choices were only Trump vs like... Joe Exotic? Fuck, man XD

Mostly White

You guys shouldn't debate Vaushites. Their powers are too strong. Even if you're right, they end up looking way better.

Edvard Lundgren

I have nothing nice to say after this one, so I wont say anything.

Japester

Ukraine cedes the two "breakaway republics", in return Ukraine joins NATO (assuming NATO members are pre-primed to accept this.) No bloodshed, Ukraine shrinks a bit but there aren't hundreds of thousands of deaths. IDK if it would even work but we basically let this invasion go on without sufficient direct diplomacy.

Duckling Duckins

scotty looks weird today, well i still manged to get off on this one

Duckling Duckins

man the Uwe Boll one was great

Q Wizard

Ceding SOME territory to Russia? Really, Paul? You know Putin would never be satisfied with that, and Zelenskyy probably won't come to the table until Crimea is returned WITH reparations.

wretched_scrivener

How naive and ahistorical do you have to be to think that toppling Saddam Hussein was a good idea? And if you think Iran was/is a piddling neighbor, you know nothing about that region or its conflicts, let alone the sectarian violence unleashed by our invasion. There are dictators all over the world, in case you haven’t noticed. Should we invade North Korea next?

The Beekeeping Bumblebee

Yet, you are giving them money…? If this is all true, why are you doing this yourself? Lol

Ian Mercurio

Ur name sucks

Kaylin Tyler

I’ll take a Putin victor, if that means nato loses.

NotAProSkater

I ain't reading all of that

Jaron Talotta

You want to bring up Afghanistan and Iraq? Let's bring up Germany, Japan, South Korea, all the former Iron Curtain countries. It was really rough after the years of war, and now, they are, mostly, peaceful, well maintained and united nations allied to the USA. How about we add those into the "what if" talk

Jaron Talotta

This man, is trying to explain why Russia must be opposed, and IMMEDIATELY, they go to "did you know we armed the Taliban in the 80s?" Holy fuck

Jaron Talotta

This is almost impossible to listen to. Paul is insufferable. Anti borders? A bunch of countries linked by NATO is LESS stringent borders. Give some territory to Russia (Chamberlain), and you get MORE harsh borders. Oh but I forgot, Paul wants perfection immediately now, or else, he won't even participate. Oh this poor young man, trying to point out the differences between Russia's war crimes and Ukraine's war crimes, good luck. Probably TJ too, but less so

SPT12

Why?

Glob

I already want to see this dylan burns guy strung up and beat like a pinata

ant

The capitalist propagandist guest

Manakete

This is going to be a Actual RIOT to watch

Jaron Talotta

I expected them to bring on some miserable Chomsky sort, who begins every question of global ills with the assumption "The US is responsible for this..and"

Jaron Talotta

And Saddam Hussein never should have been forcibly removed. Just let the dictators of the world run rampant, no possible counter to them other than that of their pittling little neighbor States

Jaron Talotta

Then you think the US should never have rebelled against England. The Civil War should never have been fought. Hitler should have marched through all of Europe and we should never have stopped selling oil to the Japanese.