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Amazon Apocalypse (Rewrite): Chapter 1 version 2

🕑 Added 2022-10-03 01:35:18 +0000 UTC

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Paul Birchenough

Original is best for me, I love the whole death by snoo snoo impersonality of the Amazons.

Warren James

I like this version. I am really interested in what he does next! hopefully he takes everything she said seriously now and jumps inot the quest thing....lol.

DiabolicalGenius

I never said he had to be a completely pure everyman without a single outstanding quality or anything, just enough to be relatable. Haremlit genre is chock-full of male leads who were incredible before they got powers/isekaid/apocalypsed. I'm tired of ex-military ice-road truckers who firefight part time and never miss a day in the gym, to assert how super manly they are. While the opposite extreme of japanese isekai protags who have no personality and no self-esteem and are entirely carried by cheats got old even before that. I just wanna see a relatable guy with a regular job who rises to the occasion when world goes to hell. He can be a competent guy who's good at his job with a good head on his shoulders in general. That's plenty for a respectable male lead without needing to overcompensate by making him a retired mercenary or something.......

Michael Jackson

I was thinking he could be primed after he gets the system of the princess like you would prime a fuel pump on a car so no special powers just joe average maybe a bit healthier or eating less say he doesnt get fat can put on muscle more easily or that he just doesnt get sick from anything etc but once apocalypse happens his body goes into overdrive and things every one else is finding hard he finds it intuitive like he knows things like his muscle memory and fighting tactics and as he progresses it becomes apparent hes a step up like a knight to a commoner, thats why hes gone a bit shelter mad in the mountains as he has a bad feeling about the coming apocalypse.

Loukemia

I feel the more everyman response would be for him to not prepare. For Carter to not believe what he saw but always have that doubt at the back of his mind of what if it was real. Your suggestion about him meeting Myrna in college might be a good blend of v1 and v2.

DiabolicalGenius

Always happy to provide feedback. Hope it helps!

Marvin

Yeah, I could try that in the next version. Age them up and still have Myrina and have their encounter be more by chance like the first one. I will mull this over for my next outline.

Marvin

Yeah, I could see that working. Though I’m afraid of making Carter too special.

DiabolicalGenius

I'm feeling a little conflicted. On the one hand I rather did like the everyman feel to ver1 and I also liked that it showed what made the male lead different from normal, as he actually chose to believe what happened rather than going to see a pychiatrist like most people would and then seriously prepared for what was coming. He was a guy who could be anyone, yet also proved he deserved the chance he'd been given and worked to make the most of it without much beyond the forewarning. On the other hand it WAS pretty tongue in cheek and felt kind of random that these amazons took a liking to him just because. Also felt odd that they seemed to do all their investigating through media alone and he seemed to be the only local they spoke to properly, despite being there to investigate. It could use a bit of polish. With ver2 however, I quite liked getting to know Myrina and made me much more invested in him getting to the point he can use the token and get in touch with her again, as opposed to three random amazons from ver1 who we know nothing about beyond them being hot, fit and fun. None of them really lingered in my mind after the prologue in the first draft. On the downside though as you mentioned, it does detract a fair bit from the everyman feeling which I rather liked. For me system apocalypse is all about immersion, imagining what I would do if this happened to me. And it's kind of hard for me to pretend that I had an amazon childhood friend all along. Plus I liked the idea of the male lead getting by on his own capability and ingenuity alone, along with a little preparation from advance notice. Him becoming powerful and a major player among the people of post-system Earth on his own merits, showing you don't have to be "the chosen one" or be handed an unfair advantage on a platter to be the protagonist in this kind of story. And him having an amazon childhood friend from the start does feel like he's being given a signficant boost to being special from the onset. But I really want to keep Myrina though~ So yeah, having trouble making up my mind. Perhaps you could take the best of both? Him in college having lived a normal life until then like in ver1, then meeting Myrina and getting to know her by chance? Joining his class, or moving nearby? He builds up a relationship in a similar way as he did here, due to her being out of place and oblivious of common sense, the usual skirtchasers being too intimidated to try and get in her pants after she demonstrated her "freakish strength" and he feels bad seeing her confused in what to do with everyday stuff and just takes her for a cloudcuckoolander and helps her out a bit. She's a bit vulnerable to men since she grow up surrounded by only women and a few male relatives in the clan, so she gets won over pretty quick. After getting along for a few months she suddenly tells him her time is up and she needs to return to her home planet, much to his bemusement. Then things play out much as they did at the end of ver2. She could be a young amazon there to gain experience while her elders did the investigating. It may not sound like a big difference, but a whirlwind romance when they're both mostly grown and getting her favour that way feels more like it's his own achievement through charm, rather than lucking out with meeting her as kids and her imprinting on him before he knew it, leaving us feeling it'd be the same no matter which boy she met. That's my current impression. Either way, the warning and the token with it's quest to give him some direction, are plenty advantage enough without making it seem like he's being carried. I'd like you to stick with that and get anything else with his own hands. Also, no big deal but I don't really like the opening line. Emphasising that there's nothing special about himself from the start sound a little insecure. Not as much as someone who tries too hard to convince everyone how special they are, but he should have a little confidence. In a "I'm not much of an athlete, but my grades are pretty decent. I may not be top of the class, but I can do what I need to do" kind of way. Just because he's a regular guy doesn't mean he has to feel like a nobody, right? Might be just me being oversensitive though.

Michael Jackson

2nd is as good as the first what i would change is that the princess gives him a gift when he is very young that helps his young body go from average to athlete as he hits puberty and this could be a flash back that happens when the apocalypse starts that his childhood friend who went missing with the aunt had wiped his memory of them leaving and that on a girlish wim gave him a kiss and maybe that injected him with nanites to get a legup on the system, as she knows he has the brains but not the brawn. So like a rollercoaster hes at the beginning or half way up the track and everyone else is just beginning , it could play off like a six sense like he knew where the ball was in american football (its rugby with safety gear qlues in the name foot ball) so he knew it was in the air and could calculate how fast the trajectory etc without looking .

Marvin

Thanks for sharing!

Marvin

Thanks for sharing!

Freedcats

FWIW, I like this one better.

voidofsmiles

2 is good

Marvin

Yeah, that first high school line should say middle school. That should make it more linear. I've fixed it now. I also tweaked the line making it seem like Carter only thought of her as an acquaintance and added your idea about her later claiming she was joking. If you have the chance to reread it, let me know if that's what you were thinking.

Loukemia

Remember the apocalypse part is an allegory for a disaster. Carter's warning (which he believed) prepared him. In a disaster a warning and preparation are more than some people would have. I think this is more important than a magic weapon, bloodline, etc when it hits the fan. Confusion should be expected from everyone else. So when Carter does not act confused the reader would know something is up. One solution is starting the boss(soon to be oni) asking Carter in an employee review why he always seems so distracted. He begins to talk about his friend Myrna disappearing. Sometimes he finds himself looking around online for what happened. Carter's necklace (the pledge token glows) and the system event takes place. Power turns off and they look down the hallway to see a janitor taken out by an office construct monster. Carter doesn't hesitate he dashes for the fireaxe and takes it out. Towards the chapter ends with boss lady asking what's going on and Carter can reply "When my friend disappeared she told her faction was monitoring Earth before its System Integration. I know where she went, but if her faction was here I wondered if others were as well. I've been looking into evidence of who else has come here." When asked what group his friend belonged to Carter responds, "The Amazonian Empire". Next chapter, flasback!

Dr. Redbush

I kinda like the idea of starting off with character relationships, but I don’t like the way this was done. I feel like time jumps from Highschool to young kids and then back to high school in a kind of confusing way. Then there was the fact that when younger they were really close, but then in high school he felt like she was only an acquaintance and didn’t talk to her much. I don’t see how she can think the opposite and invite him over like that if he wasn’t that friendly with her. I guess in short, I like this direction but it feels overall a bit contrived, for a lack of a better term. I’d maybe do a linear progression of their friendship from kids until high school. They could be best friends the whole time, with both of them secretly wishing for more, she’s still always weird to everyone else, but once she is a bit older she stops talking about being an Amazonian Princess, so Carter only thinks it was her being an imaginative kid. Culminating in the departure seen where surprise surprise, she had told the truth. Sorry for the long winded response, and hopefully no offense taken on my story ideas. I just wanted to give my thoughts.

Marvin

So you're thinking Carter comes off a little too dense for not realizing Myrina was telling the truth? That was another worry of mine, tbh. I toyed with a flash back intro for this, but ended up not liking it. I might make another attempt at it, but right now I'm not sure it is working well for the story. Foreknowledge of the apocalypse is the key to Carter's decision making, so the intro seemed too confusing without that knowledge. If I had given Carter some magical sword, a powerful bloodline, or a super powerful spell, things would be different,

Loukemia

So I prefer this version more as we explore the characters relationship. It feels like someone who what grown up with an Amazon might find it more believable when they just disappear. That said overall it might be better to start with the apocalypse beginning and fade back to a story/memory with whichever chapter is chosen later on . That would jump us straight into the action but fill us in if this or the other were chapter 2 or 3.

Marvin

Or like this comment if you prefer the original version!


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