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Amazon Apocalypse: Chapter 10

🕑 Added 2022-10-26 17:43:36 +0000 UTC

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Marvin

It's all building up to something, don't worry. In the first version that I ended up rewriting, he skipped town immediately, but I changed things up in this one because people didn't like him being so cold/ruthless.

Justin

Sorry man. I just lost any respect for Carter. He has a great revelation in the middle of the chapter about ungrateful Useless people too stupid to get with the program then he tries himself to a larger group of people who are just as useless. He has been planning for the apocalypse for years, has an active plan set up and throws it away not even 6 hours into the first day. I don’t like Craig but he’s much more likely to survive than Carter.

Kconraw

Once people start getting powerful with magic or get a ranged melee skill the guns power should lvl out. Not sure how I feel about him becoming the leader of a small settlement when he still has that patronage quest to do for the Amazons cuz if the reward is supposed to teleport him to their world for a while, he might put it off for a while due to obligations and responsibilities to the settlement which kinda defeats the purpose of the title of this series, which i was getting excited for. Also, at the end of the chapter only one of his proficiencies was listed. Thx for the chapter.

Michael Jackson

Well knights and guns dont mix, imagine world war 2 and you bring in drone warfare smart missiles, icbm, body armour etc, throws a spanner in the works as you wouldnt need warships or planes. Now i like guns and dont see the problem as most as you say stop people using them in the genre and in the uk we do not have any guns available so knifes swords bows crossbows and maybe some farmers have shotguns or the rich or stately homes may have a black powder musket, we can own deacivated guns but not the ammo that goes into them. I think in that respect the uk would come out better for lack of firearms if they suddenly stopped working, yes i understand cars not working and anything with a microchip getting fried but like the evildead old old cars motorbikes etc should still work. Now as to society yep democratic monarchy with maybe a bit of usa thrown in sounds good .

Iron Akela

I’m keen to see what Carter gets at Intelligence 20! Really enjoying this so far

Iron Akela

A military background isn’t required for guns per se. And I also have to say that I don’t think I’ve ever read a system apocalypse written by anyone I consider to know much about guns. Maybe I’m reading the wrong authors :o) Personally, I think guns have a place. Treat them like you would any other ranged weapon, where it’s the class abilities and skill levels which make up the majority of their damage and they work fine. Better than fine, in my opinion, because everyone suddenly being able to use a bow despite it being much much harder to learn to use well than a gun smacks of [plot bullshit] to me. It’s the same reason as why crossbows were so common in medieval times. Easier to learn to use well. I can definitely see that, in this world, guns start off powerful. But we’ve not seen any bows, so maybe they’re roughly equivalent. Or maybe they’re just overwhelmingly powerful at low levels, but Vitality would soon make them less wonderful - unless you’ve proficiency and class abilities/high stats etc. At which point they remain relevant but not overpowered

Iron Akela

While ‘might makes right’ holds sway, who says the leader has to be the strongest. Having the leader being someone respected by the community and the strongest being a constable or something would certainly deviate from the norm. That way Carter wouldn’t be in charge, but still the leader of the police/military type group

Marvin

Yeah, I feel the same. We will do a hard turn into magic and sword fighting by the end of the book.

Andrew Kinzler

I don't mind guns as much in this setting, but i would want to see them get power creeped out. Just cause magic, sword fighting, etc is much more fun to me. However, I despise them in medieval fantasy settings. Whenever they're brought in it always ruins it for me

Marvin

Yeah, guns also tend to change the flavor of a system apocalypse dramatically, which is why most authors get rid of them either by bringing everyone to a tutorial or by flat out making them stop working. I decided I had to keep them since people thought it was cheap that they stopped working last time, but I really want to minimize their impact on the story. They don’t mix all that well with the sub genre and tend to mess up a lot of the aspects readers enjoy most. Plus, I’m the wrong choice to write military fiction, especially when so many other authors in the genre have a military background and I don’t.

DiabolicalGenius

Too bad. I really wanted to see the Sakura choo choo train~ I think the main reason it usually ends up as a dictatorship aside from individual strength becoming so important in this kind of setting, is that it's easier and keeps things simple. Having the fun stuff like levelling up, kicking ass and flirting with a harem being put off to deal with all the debates, complaints and wrangling that comes with a democratic system of government. Plus all the readers who want to self-insert into the male lead on his power trip, tend to want him to be free to do what he likes. A situation where he's forced to go along with something he didn't want to just because he got outvoted tends to really rub them the wrong way and get them ranting about how he's better off not giving a crap about anyone who isn't worshiping the ground he walks on, or busy keeping his dick wet. Well, the privileges of being High Sword should avoid that issue. He may not get to tell other people what to do outside of battle while their elected representatives handle civil affairs, but no-one else gets to tell him what to do either. So he's more the protector of the community than a servant of it, being well rewarded for his efforts. You'll still get readers who prefer a male lead who's completely selfcentric and doesn't waste his time with anyone who doesn't benefit him, but most people won't have much to complain about. In other news, Carter handled his first kill pretty cool-headedly. Even Caleb stepped up and dealt with the other. The quiet ones eh? Looks like Carter can trust him with his back. As for the impact of killing, it may hit him later? He's pretty focused on survival and getting stronger right now. I'm a little concerned about guns taking over, but I'm willing to bet they're just a huge advantage at low levels but once your Vitality is high enough, they stop being effective. His Mana Bolt may surpass it before then if he keeps levelling his Caster proficiency too. I can't help being kind of leery of guns in system apocalypse since I live in a country with strong weapon control laws, so if a system apocalypse happens where guns made a huge difference, I'd be plum out of luck. No way I'm getting my hands on a firearm unless the military starts handing them out......

Marvin

Yeah, I just really want a democracy in a system apocalypse, since everyone else has already beaten establishing a monarchy to death.

Andrew Kinzler

Yeah Maybe start with that. Have him become the chieftain with advisors so that they can establish some semblance of peace and safety. Then they can start making steps towards a less totalitarian government

Loukemia

Perhaps starting off the settlement as a tribe with a Chieftain position might work better. As the group gets established and grows larger it would get those chances to evolve down that path. A position of Chieftain would still be powerful enough to keep Craig away from it.

Justin Webb

in this type of situation the strong always rule. Those that do not wish to be dictators usually select a group of advisers that act a counsel and represent everyone else.

Andrew Kinzler

It may be better to introduce it after they upgrade their settlement to something better then shelter as it seems a little premature to be thinking about the type of government they will be creating. When their main problem is surviving and dealing with Craig. For the government you could just blend the role of king and president with him having a veto power

Marvin

Yeah, constitutional monarchy might be a good comparison. But with actual power a bit closer to the US President. Carter would essentially be head of state, but not in charge of everything. I might edit things a little still (and may even edit the specifics out of this chapter), since it isn't likely to be a major part of the story until at least book 3.

Andrew Kinzler

Are you going to model the government off the British and structure it more as a constitutional monarchy?


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