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Spellheart 5: Chapter 31 Version B

🕑 Added 2021-02-19 18:55:36 +0000 UTC

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Marvin

I ended up using Version C, which has been removed from here because it's at the end of the book on Amazon.

Nathan Golder

Definitely prefer the first one myself, this one makes me not like the character at all, like I hope he dies in a fire. The first one while unhelpful didn't make you hate the character,, this version I think he is a dishonorable dueche bag who just doesn't want to abide by his promise of a favor.

Marvin

Great thoughts! I will confirm it's definitely #3 in both versions of the scene, and I'll probably make that clearer in a third version. This version makes that less apparent.

Marvin

Yeah, I do think that change was a definite improvement. I tried to use the statues as symbolic representations of the Wargod's inner thoughts while rejecting each of Theo's requests, and I think that added a layer of depth to the scene that wasn't there before. If I write a version C, I'll probably lean the first half toward this version and the latter half toward the original version.

Justin Webb

I like the first one you wrote better

Hartmann

I liked the first version better though I have to admit to preferring the presentation of the statues depicting the Wargods life. They were just mentioned and then thrown away in the first version.

Micah Molina

Also, the theme was to contrast the orcish patriarch to the elvish matriarch. I know that the WarGod is leagues above Tivana level wise, BUT the original version furthers this contrast. While the elves have their own quirks, the royal family is kind of stuck up comparatively to regular elves. It's to the point that Tivana seems to have trouble expressing her desires and interest in Theo. In contrast, while the orcs have their own quirks they are more ordered and 'by the book' (lol). So having the WarGod more laxed and whimsical fits the contrastingt theme, especially when in the first version Theo compares him to Tivana appearing out of thin air, I think at least. Edit: Regular elves - follows their passions (less rigid) Tivana - precedent of royal decree/family, law and order, shy/timid (more rigid) Regular orcs - follows the rules of their code. Orderly. (more rigid) War God - honor bound, spirit of the law, whimsical straightforward (less rigid) The two different groups compliment each other and are somewhat opposites.

Micah Molina

Okay. So I read both versions and I think the first version is superior based off the flow of the story. The first version makes more logical sense considering that the stone was pseudo activated previously. Which either goes one of three ways: 1. The previous chief activated and the original premise that the War God would immediately have knowledge of the situation and decide whether or not to intervene, but the War God waits and doesn't even acknowledge it's activation which breaks the oath of upholding the original premise. 2. It was activated and the War God didn't know it had been activated, which break continuity. 3. The War God is the one that activated it from a distance requesting Theo's presence then acting completely aloof. The original version seems to imply not only is the War God aware but acknowledges it but chooses not to interfere. But Theo, peaks his curiosity so he activates it from his side requesting Theo's presence. Which then increases story continuity. I understand the first version makes it seem like he's a nice guy. But that's a fallacy, he's over 1000 years old and while he has probably saved millions he has probably killed just as many. Also, the first version, shows the implication of the combination of boredom and patience one would mostly likely acquire living that long. When he's not acting as a planetary defense force the War God is probably bored out of his mind. Theo's unique and intrigues him. And it shows his near limitless patience, remember he has probably watched many relatives being born, live long lives and die. It reminds me of the those dumb Twilight movie's ancient vampires, they are wise yet whimsical in order to stave off the boredom of a millennium. That's just my take.

Alex Wierzbicki

I liked the first version.

Marvin

The kneeling stuff was more those two Gold skin orcs' thing than Grognak's, and I edited the scene to make that a little clearer by having Grognak ask them to leave so he could tell Theo to stand. It doesn't completely fix what you're talking about, but I definitely want to avoid having Grognak seem pompous.

Mike

I dunno... I liked the first version. While I enjoy the wives and harem. I was thinking the story could use one male side character that isn’t absurd or related to him. This puts the Wargod in the “absurd” category for me. He said no a bunch then helped him by flinging him into space. Not sure Theo is ever going to be friendly with someone who had him kneel and then denied all his requests for help. My 2cents anyway.

Vladimir Prokop

Yup! In my opinion, story flows better that way. U can have him friendly once Theo proves himself. :)


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