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A Closer Look at Flatting

🕑 Added 2023-04-20 17:33:01 +0000 UTC

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Abrian Curington

This is awesome! My goodness, I use adjustment layers, though hardly in such a painterly manner! Keeping this for reference... I see-saw on using a number of adjustment layers because... I don't know, it just seems like I'm trying too hard? Meanwhile, there are gorgeous, engaging comics that are "flat-painted" and seem to be less fussy?? Still finding my way, for sure.

Tony Cliff

Your mention of "flatting in local colours" reminds me of a post I saw, someone was showing their absolutely bonkers use of adjustment layers to take local colours to a painted look. I use adjustment layers a lot, but this made my head spin. Found it: https://mastodon.art/@artsangel/110231211201740591 (Let's see how links in Patreon comments work.)

Tony Cliff

And the flip side of the "getting in our own ways" coin is that with some artists, the seemingly weird processes they use is what makes their art stand out. Ideally. Hopefully. :) So I hope everyone can come to a place of honestly identifying the difference between "this works for me" and "I've been unnecessarily burdening myself."

Tony Cliff

Yes, I think that stepwise fashion works for me too. The old wisdom of breaking big tasks into smaller tasks to make them easier to manage. First you sand the side of the barn, then you paint it. You don't sand with one hand and paint with the other. (Lol, metaphors.)

Abrian Curington

I'm all about trying new processes! I used Flatton on my last big book. I found that it was most effective for characters, but then I found myself starting to draw in ways that made it easier for the auto-flatter to do its job, which I wasn't too happy about! I'm much like Sarah in that I tend to review the same page in passes. Of all the steps, I'm the weakest at color, so I'm constantly revising my process! I'll often flat in local colors, desaturate areas of less focus, color holds where it seems necessary (or cool!). Then, I tend to pop on another layer to test out extreme lighting situations. I do a lot of drawing in the paint when it comes to backgrounds, especially since I'm trying to draw looser these days. I also would love to think about color while I'm inking, but my work is always weaker for it! For me, it's best to just think about texture and light in the ink, and muddle through the color afterward.

Jason Blower

Great review of your processes Tony, I had hoped Flatteron would have been a faster tool for you. It is surprising listening (via podcasts like "make it and tell everyone") how so many people have stuck with old processes that they started with when they starting out, some of which are crazy complicated. Making art/comics is hard enough and we can unknowingly get in our own ways, I appreciate you taking the time to give it a try and document that, perhaps it will help out another creative who it would work for.

Tealin

Thank you for this! Really interesting to see the results of the automated flatter. It did seem to recognise quite a lot of your contours, but yeah, didn't really save that much work in the end ... I find one pays for a lot of potential labour savers in the fixes one has to do after they've 'helped', and I'm not sure it works out in their favour ... Plus, when else are you going to catch up on all those podcats?? My workflow is extremely front-end-heavy, but I think in the end probably everything works out about the same. The thing I like about breaking it into so many passes is that I only have to think about one thing at a time. When I'm thumbnailing, I'm only thinking about composition and readability. When drawing, only thinking about creating the reality of that panel. Colour keys, mood; flatting, the technicalities; final colour, making it look niiiice. I find when I try to juggle more than one of these things my brain slows right down, and not only does it take way longer but I don't enjoy it as much and I exhaust myself faster. But to each their own!


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