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🕑 Added 2021-12-16 19:33:57 +0000 UTC

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Tony Cliff

You know, that whole sequence is quite a few pages of a lot of talking heads and emoting figures. Maybe my brain was trying to tell me, "you need to change it up!" so that when I got to the page that involves a lot of running around town, it was a relief. I feel like this is A Thing for me: I lean heavily on sequences of Characters Who Are Acting. I feel like it would be wise to vary things. But I have wondered what I would do differently (specifically in this sequence) and have come up short. Maybe when it has time to rest, and I come back to it during inking, I will be able to more clearly see room for improvements.

Tony Cliff

Hmmm re: "not working on a conceptual level," that is interesting. Though, I would think that would be more relevant on higher levels of the process, versus little things like drawing a hand or getting the perspective right or whatever. That hand was very much a case of "this just doesn't look right," and I knew it COULD look right, because I had a photo of my own hand, Looking Right. That will be a good thing to remember, though: if a small part is giving trouble, pull back and ask whether the larger composition could be reconsidered. The first thing your comment reminded me of was "Oblique Strategies"— https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblique_Strategies — a series of cards, each of which "offers a challenging constraint intended to help artists (particularly musicians) break creative blocks by encouraging lateral thinking." Though again I usually think of this approach alongside early-stage birds-eye steps in a creative project.

Tealin

I am a firm believer in Off Days. Thankfully they happen less frequently now than they used to, but they always come along at the worst time. Any number of things seem to trigger them, be it amount of sleep or change in weather or just something demanding too much background RAM. But they rarely last too long. Something I've noticed, and I wonder if it's true for you – when I'm really struggling with a page, or even a panel, quite often it's because it's not working on a conceptual level. I grind and grind, trying to force it to work, when what it really needs is to be re-thought. I'm canny enough to this now that when I'm having this sort of problem I'll stop and think "is this the right way to be doing it?" and if I can solve the wrong approach, then the new drawing comes very easily, even if it's a more "tricky" drawing technically. It was very annoying when I really struggled with a page, and it wasn't until I posted it on Patreon that I got feedback that both identified and solved the conceptual problem – of course, I couldn't have NOT drawn it, I had to post *something*, but it was a bitter moment of "so that's why I was struggling so much." Have you found anything similar?

Fergus Maximus

Hey Tony, to my amusement, when I looked up the word to check the spelling, I learned that—notwithstanding it's common usage—from Doug's and my point of view, you're antipodean!

Tony Cliff

I wish you both (and any other antipodeans (good word)) the sunniest of days!!! <3

Douglas Holgate

This is all just incredibly wonderful and important stuff Tony. Love these insights. Beautiful work as always. Will have to see if I can track down a copy of A Swim In A Pond in the Rain.

Douglas Holgate

Hello Fergus! Here we are just absolutely basking in the glow of a steamy southern backside down here right now!

Fergus Maximus

Thanks, Tony, for the insight into your process. You have inspired me to seek out and read George Saunders' book. Hopefully this time I might actually do that! And "Hi" to Doug from a fellow antipodean. Let's luxuriate in our long warm days while they last.


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