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DD4 Inking, Book Recommendations, and a Character Generation Trick

🕑 Added 2022-02-04 14:01:04 +0000 UTC
DD4 Inking, Book Recommendations, and a Character Generation Trick
DD4 Inking, Book Recommendations, and a Character Generation Trick
DD4 Inking, Book Recommendations, and a Character Generation Trick
DD4 Inking, Book Recommendations, and a Character Generation Trick

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Camila Espinosa

Your inks are beautiful as always Tony! I'm reading PIRANESI now and it is incredible! The only book that's ever felt like it is OCEAN SEA by Alessandro Baricco, you might like it too :) Oh! and the character ideation using cards looks really fun! A tarot deck might work!

Tealin

Ah OK, I'm glad you've found some you like now – for a few years it seemed like "I feel like I should like this Pratchett guy but I'm just not getting it." As for unkindness, I think I can speak for a great many of his readers in that Terry Pratchett provided both an unfamiliar validation in feeling seen, and a way to approach a hostile and baffling world with some degree of compassion and humanity. His 'cleverer than thou' characters all have to learn how not to be jerks. It's hard to fit that into a radio play, with its limited runtime and lack of internal monologue, even if the radio productions allowed time for the actors to read the book (they didn't, just the script) or have any rehearsal time with the director (who might also have read only the script). Robin Brooks always did a fantastic job of condensing the story, but nuances inevitably had to be cut. Re: David Mitchell, I was thinking more about his sketch writing than his panel appearances – where he's in control of the narrative and the perspective, rather than playing off others. (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU; though he's meaner in this version than the radio.) I feel like he comes from a similar place of 'clever person at odds with a world full of baffling dullards' when he's writing; when he's improvising, the persona puts him more on the back foot and so balances out. Incidentally, I just realised I have a Pratchett post going up this Saturday – not a swipe at you, rather prompted by finding some forgotten, unreleased drawings at the back of a cyberdrawer!

Tony Cliff

(That’s my best attempt to think through my thoughts. They may or may not be correct. I feel like I have, at best, only partial access to that filing system (by which I mean the pile of post its that is “Thoughts.”))

Tony Cliff

Ha ha, you can call me out all you want, that’s fine by me. I do want to say, I DO like Pratchett, quite a lot. I have library holds for so many things, but it’s the Pratchett I am really looking forward to. The snark I mention just because… I was listening maybe to WEE FREE MEN or maybe a BBC radio adaptation, and there was a line that just felt *unkind.* I am assuming we agree that there is an element to Pratchett where he distinguishes clever people (himself, the readers, some characters) from broader society/dullards. Or at least he does sometimes. Often those are fun insights. But I caught one line that just hit me the wrong way, it felt mean. And I thought back, wondering “could more of his cutting insights be seen that way?” Again, I can’t emphasize enough, I loved EQUAL RITES and now A HAT FULL OF SKY, as well as COLOUR OF MAGIC. And I remember the BBC adaptation of MORT very fondly. With, say, David Mitchell, his snark is most often complemented by less-snarky co-presenters (lee Mack/rob brydon on WILTY, the panelists on UNBELIEVABLE TRUTH). He can also be self-effacing. I wish I could quote the line from Pratchett that soured me a little. If I find another, I’ll mention it. Or I’ll realize I was being over sensitive and correct myself.

Tealin

I've been thinking a lot lately about neuro-compatibility with authors – do we jive with authors who write like we think? Regardless of the actual content or aesthetic; rather a communication style that resembles our internal monologues. I've struggled with books enthused about by people whose taste I trust, whereas some authors (Pratchett included) feel not so much like reading but like there's a telepathic link between our imaginations. The fact accessibility is so subjective must be indicative of something beyond mere writing 'skill' or tradecraft like pacing, dialogue, etc. It's intriguing to me that you like David Mitchell and John Finnemore but not Terry Pratchett, as to me they're cut from the same cloth – what do you find offputting about Pratchett's snarkiness that you don't find in Mitchell? (I'm not challenging you, here, I genuinely want to find out where the distinctions are that I can't see myself.)

Morgan Murray

Man, that’s borderline reckless.

Tony Cliff

EXACTLY, the balusters are an important story element, telling us about the laissez-faire attitude of uncle Nico toward the health and well-being of his young niece! How’s that for your “fun uncle.” Just part of my efforts to make this work darker and grittier.

Morgan Murray

Tony! Those balusters are not to code! They must be spaced so that a ball with a diameter of four-inches may not pass through at any point. That four-inch ball, of course, is Bob the Builder’s polite way of saying “a baby’s head”. Definitely not the head of a full-grown protagonist. Unless you want your Goodreads flooded with angry building inspectors, I suggest you redraw the whole book.

Tony Cliff

Ah! That’s a kind comparison - I like gurney’s stuff a lot. And in my experience, good creative tips are much more transferable than they seem on the surface. I’m sure there are Gurney ideas you could apply to music composition.

Tony Cliff

Oh man, Pratchett has 95% of the time had those “blobby” cover illustrations. I’ve found some alternatives, but none are especially endearing.

mkreed

Those covers are a travesty. If you search used books you can sometimes find really charming art on older editions, but the current ones make me think he got into some kind of beef with the cover designer and they went with the worst designs out of spite. Bardo is excellent though, very well read as an audio book too.

Chris Schweizer

I took forever to read any Pratchett for the reasons that keep you on the fence - there's a smug snarkiness that creeps in that, as a rule, is very off-putting to me, and the snippets usually shared publicly tend to be the snarkiest bits. I feel like the Tiffany Aching books do a mostly good job of not doing that, and it seems more prevalent in earlier stuff (I've read the first couple Aching books, and the first couple of Watch books, and it's much more pronounced in the Watch books). BUT it's not as much of a hindrance as I reckoned it was gonna be, coupled with the character and plot and overall sense of things, which I generally like a lot.

Kae M

I just really enjoy your process posts. They remind me of James Gurney’s in the best way — that even though I may not work in the same style or media, I *learn* from them. And!! Someone else who is repulsed by the work of the Pratchett cover artists! Both of them! I like Pratchett, mostly, and appreciate the political themes of his work, but it took me decades to read them. As a child and teenager even touching that cover art made me feel slightly nauseated for some reason. Love reading Pratchett in ebook form now.


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