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v4c33.2: Alt version

🕑 Added 2023-08-09 07:16:40 +0000 UTC

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Chad Hagner

I like the rewrite, feels better flushed out. Tyftc!

Jostikas

After the edits, the paragraph "People who were apparently funded by a high ranking individual in Grass Sea City" is a non sequitur, and can probably just be deleted.

Douglas Sokolowski

This was easily one of the best chapters of the whole story

Jacob Cook

Definitely keep Lulu!!!

Eidetic Eidolon

I preferred the original version a great deal more. Keep Lulu and some of the celebratory details, but ditch the rest and go back to the first version.

Philosophyanon

Prolly is a slang for probably, so you’re not wrong but I think it’s more Han having a lower class accent

Walter R.

"Han’s eyes softened. “I prolly would have got grabbed anyway.” Prolly? Perhaps it is "probably"?

Randall Brynsvold

Good edit. A better look into Tigu's thinking and new motivation.

Avdrdr

Next stop chaos in the city

William Armstrong

I like this version, but there are some small subtle things in the old version I like better, and not sure I like Tigu just being able to see through the lie so easily more than I like the villain revealing his plan when he thinks no one of significance is listening, the dialogue in the original expanded the world for me a bit more

Old Dog

I forgot to mention how much I love it when Tigu conjures the ethereal tiger.

Ashlee Jacobsen

This version works better!

Codered999

She broke his weapon in half, the halberd, not the guy, you misread it.

Truedragon5374

Ok so this chapter is the better version, but there is one glitch. She emphasizes that "Everyone Gets One", but the first thing she does is break a guy in half. And even if she was 90% sure he was a slaver, all he did was ask her to identify herself. I think it would be more consistent (and more badass) if she "stood there unconcerned about the spear pointed at her chest." Then when the slavers use up their One Chance, she can signal their mistake punching through his weapon, his armor and knocking him into the trees, just before Yin shows up.

V01D

The one thing I see is the halves spear, that looks weird. Definitely is better, especially if Tigu is going to have an adventure helping Han.

N0ct3m

OH I CANT WAIT!!! the inspector and TIGU!? that poor man lol.

Randall Brynsvold

This is Sergeant Han of the Azure Hills Special Investigative Unit, who has been working closely with the newly assigned Special Inspector (the Verdant Hill Magistrate's son) after the Special Inspector position had been vacant for 30 years following a string of assassinations. Sergeant Han is an artist with his club, "The Great Stick that Pacifies Heaven" or "The Pacifier". (See "Interlude: The Inspector", 2/20/23)

Owlish

I personally liked the first version of the chapter better. Obviously you mentioned the editing wasn't done so that will help, but this one felt a bit more choppy. Like someone was pressing fast forward on a remote. If I hadn't read the previous version I would've felt a touch lost. That being said I like a lot of aspects of this chapter. I think the subtly of this chapter plays as more natural. I like that Tigu got tackled by the girl as she was freed from the cage and that she got to enjoy some light after seeing the darkness the cages reminded her of. I also love that she's finally truly realizing why Xiulan said 'never again' and wants to help more. It shows a lot of growth for her. I can see her looking at her wrist and using her bracelet as a touch stone in the hard times ahead as a reminder of why she fights.... So basically I hope that when the book version of this comes out it's a lovely mishmash of these two versions. :)

a passing Fnord

This one is better

ColleenR

I love the doll’s real person coming to save the girl. I also recommend not having Rou Tigu say “Cultivator.” I think that’s overkill.

BlueMage_VT

While I do miss the explanation that indentured servitude is legal in the province, the previous version came across kinda like a villain explaining their evil plan, and this version feels more natural. Overall I think this version is better.

mly85lc

The flow of the storyis better, and meanigs of "person" of chaters come out mutch more clear.

Demian Buckle

Thank you for the Chapter. A better version, thank you for your dedication to the story.

Hugh Peeble

This version is better.

SovietKoshka

I like this version

Old Dog

As always, thank you for the chapter (x2). Both versions have their appeal. I have to agree with emphes and Barry Morgan's comments concerning How Tigu would introduce herself as she is no "mere" cultivator.

Kyle Donmoyer

Second better indeed

William Johnson

I agree, particularly the bit about delivering the man to his wife was a very nice bit.

William Johnson

Ooh time to link up with Lord Magistrate the Younger!

Kevin Choi

Second was better. Thanks!

Aaron W. Smith

Nice.m while the first was adequate, the 2nd was better. Thanx.

Southmonk

No han is verdant hills magistrate's son subordinate. He's the guy who thinks the magistrates son is unflappable and cool.

SinCinnamon

The special inspector!!! He is priceless!

CUI13

Inspector Han is the Verdant Hill's Magistrate's son, right?

Len

HAN is the junior to The Lord Magistrate's son isn't he?

Captdeth

6hr

BigBro Bluesman

Second versions way better

LoBoS!993

Torrent Rider. Bi De is his master.

Robert Davidson

Second version is much better.

brandon sharky

Well there are many tells that could be used by a cultivator elevated heart rate imperceptible to most tremors sweating and possibly fluctuations in qi subtle gesture and any number of reasons or just plain animal instinct never trust a man who don't like a dog doublely so if the dog don't like him

Caleb Reusser

Where did the rooster come from?

Overmind_Slab

I prefer this one. If you decide that we need the detailed explanation of what the bandits were up to then it’ll make more sense for Han to explain things in another chapter rather than having the bandit leader do some exposition.

Barry Morgan

Or maybe "Rou Tigu, Young Mistress of Fa Ram."

Andrew Denton

Not realistic? I didn't come here for realism!

Crazynorse

"it was not much more" shouldnt it be "now much more"?

SilasDrekken

I thought "Yes, they will be returned home." as Tigu's entrance line was better but with that exception this version is best.

Brogatar

Mixture of both versions.

Prent

This is way better

Kat

I like the second version :) I think maybe he should go ‘the doll’ just before she says her name instead of after?

TheBugEater

im so glad you rerote it 1000 times better

Saaski

This is better 🧡

Tim Allgood

I think the first version up until the point that she is releasing the captives, and the second version after that.

Featherweight

I do overall like this version better, but there’s something to be said about the way Tigu talks to the captives then turns to deal with the bandits in the original. It feels more like she’s staying on mission like that.

ThorneHawk

I prefer the second version as it avoids the villain monologue trope. I wonder if there's some other way of Tigu catching the lie other than just heartbeat rate though.

Faiir

Saying "I know that he's lying" and actually being able to know someone is lying are two different things. I don't see it as Tigu's superpower - Tigu went with an emotional response to cages, the guy looked scared when confronted - "it was obvious he's lying".

Joshua Stigall

This version is better.

Sebastian Osterbrink

I'm pretty sure that Jin would approve of apprehending slavers even when they are fleeing. The only thing he would question is the number of broken bones because that is more violence than required to catch them.

Swinter

I agree with the people saying a mix of both. I'm not sure Jin would approve of the sheer ruthlessness showed here, by attacking the "bandits" from behind as they were already fleeing. These guys may have been a bit unscrupulous, but they clearly wasn't the Chaotic Evil kind of bandits. They could be reformed I'm sure, which would be a much better moral lesson overall.

Leon

I love the reoccurring reference to the Tigu doll and the bracelet awarded to her and the way Xiulan responds to her being put down in comparison

Aphantos

A lot better. You could swap "A cultivator came to save us" with "She came to save us" and the last part could be expanded upon to clarify things a bit more, or moved to the next chapter if you'd prefer to keep this chapter size as it is.

Leon

Personally I like this one better. Instead of exposition by the bad guys like a Bond villain the connections are implied by actions. The Jade tokens, the reference to the guards. It feels like corruption rather than being explained. I see merit in the feedback that a lie detector wouldn’t work in this scenario so if there is a change I would do it there. Han mentioned expecting to be taken, basically acting as bait, maybe he has something tucked away? That than triggers an overreaction from the bad guy and BAM. Just a thought though

Eli Pomerantz

Cue Xianghua saying “I don’t hate it!!” Seriously, I really enjoyed both versions & liked aspects of each - not very helpful for picking one. I second the wish to combine them both, though you would still have to pick out the directly contradictory lines

Peter Armstrong

I think the first version where Tigu overhears the boss demoralising the prisoners rather than somehow having magically acquired the power to tell from a heart beat that someone is lying works better. Tigu knowing their heartbeat has changed is fair enough, but knowing that it means they're lying doesn't really seem so much like her. I don't recall anything previous setting up for it, so you'd need to really sell it here. Giving it's looking like she might be interested in going the Judge Dread route of detective and punisher, having her overhear the truth from the first version, then while giving them their one chance to be honest, she could note their physiological changes when they get to the actual lie part, and have an epiphany from that to give her lie detector powers. I think the first version up to "“It seems like a lot of trouble. Coming all the way out here, when Grass Sea City has millions of people.” Ziya said carefully.", then the 2nd version from there on. You have the nice clear lie of him saying they don't have the paper work "yet", to telling "Tigu" they have it. Such a clear lie that will totally screw him over if she calls him on it would provide a textbook case to learn how to tell a person is lying from their physiology. Would need the slight change to show that he's hoping that the City Seal will be enough to show he's legit as it does seem a bit of a stretch that they'd already have documents that properly matched the people they picked up. Not impossible maybe, but it seems more reasonable that they're picking up people traveling and making the documents to fit them, rather than potentially having to go into a full village and pull out a family for being in debt when everyone in the village would be pretty sure that was a lie.

Eli Pomerantz

I did enjoy the details being laid out

Featherweight

Keep in mind this isn’t a chance encounter to begin with. Even without an evil plan monolog she knows who the captives are so the deception check’s difficult was already like a 22.

RJKY

Guardian Spirit Tigu > some dumb orchid.

Will Iam

The evil man monologuing is nice but not realistic, this one is much better. Also the previous version of Tigu just appearing in the middle of the camp doesn’t feel too correct, she would have made an entrance jus like this version

emphes

I agree, this one is better overall. "This one is Rou Tigu. Cultivator." Doesn't really sound like Tigu to me though, maybe 'Rou Tigu of Fa Ram', even 'the Fa Ram sect' perhaps?

MortederTod

That Tigu can tell the bandit is lying by his heartbeat is kinda bullshit. In this scenario the bandit has multiple reasons to have a changed hearbeat, not just being nervous aboht lying. I think Tigu just telling by her cat instinct makes nore sense.

Revan694

Thanks for the chapter! Just a suggestion, this sentence: In her hands was halved the guard's halberd, Should probably be either: In her hands was half the guard's halberd, Or: In her hands was the guard's halved halberd,

The Dapper Lemon

I think I'd prefer a mixture of both versions. The dialog between the "bandits" and the captives flowed better in the previous version, and felt much more impactful. Everything from Tigu's entrance onwards is better paced in this version.

Mist the dragoness

I feel this one is better for pacing but the actual fight from the first is better, maybe combine the two?

Azena

I thought the previous one was fine but this one is soooo much better.

Alessandro Piva

Nice, I have to be sincere, I like this version better 😁 amazing Job

BargleNawdleZouss

As Xianghua would say, this version is superior!

Aaron Levenson

Well.i perfer the fight conversation of the first version. It feels more true to charcter and visceral . But the extra details and world building of this version I really enjoyed. My vote is for v1 with the added details of v2

Aaron Greene

I do like this one better

Kristof Dohrmann

Much better. In the first version it kind of feels like no time has passed and all the stuff happens so fast. Overall better pacing in this version.

mhaj58

Number one


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