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Who Is Ellen - 23 - HD
🕑 Added 2022-08-13 03:00:02 +0000 UTCHow will you even?!
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- And this is why it was important that George wasn't working today
I wonder if anyone wondered if I was just overly concerned with an unimportant detail when I made clear that George wasn't working?
No. That's impossible. Nobody would ever jump to that conclusion.
EVER.
I can see arguments for this being far or not fair, particularly given that it was Ellen herself who said "I'll prove it to you right now".
I don't actually care about those arguments, I want George in the game, but I can SEE them.
Over there.
Doing their own thing.
Comments
Foradain
If the game they're about to play is similar enough to D&D5e (I think its predecessors had a similar note, IIRC) then I hope George both remembers and has an opportunity to remind Rich that "As a referee, the DM interprets the rules and decides when to abide by them and when to change them." The other point that must be remembered is that the ultimate goal of playing any game is to have fun. If the players are having fun, the DM is doing their job right.
Foradain
There isn't a game called AD&D 3rd ed, as far as I know. I haven't seen the word "Advanced" or the "A" that stands for it in any official D&D product since Y2K. But yes, a case could be made that D&D3e is a different game than AD&D. A better game, but that's just my opinion. ^_^
Wild Card
Battle of the Rules Lawyers is about to begin
Jacob Barboza
YAY GEORGE!
Some Ed
Are you kidding? In my mind, the opportunity to do that calling out is entirely the reason that George is making this offer. However, he will never admit that he cares enough about anything that petty for that to have been the reason.
Some Ed
Lies. There was no "upgrade" between 2nd and 3.x. AD&D 2nd ed was the last game of that series, and it's just a confusing marketting gimmick that there's a game called AD&D 3rd ed produced by the same company. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. And have stuck with it since somebody first made the claim to me that it was an upgrade. To be clear, I agree that 2nd ed armor class and THAC0 is inane. But I don't agree with suddenly changing kobolds into lizards or a gazillion other things in that so-called update. I have come around and decided that AD&D 3.x may be a perfectly reasonable, playable game. I don't know, I don't have experience with it to say. But it's not the same game as AD&D 2nd ed. All of that said? Given when El Goonish Shive started, it feels unlikely to me that they would've played 2nd ed, unless Dan's extending comic time all the way back to when they was first doodling the first concepts of the comic.
gaybunny
"Justin can you please get that fan out of my face" "Sorry, it felt appropriate"
M.
I just hope George is the one to call Rich out on his inevitable bad behavior, since I have a strong feeling that Rich is going to try to ruin this game. If Ellen calls him out, he'll say something obnoxious about her not being able to handle it, but it'll be different if George does.
Doriima
It feels like every time George makes an appearance I am reminded how awesome he is.
AstroChaos
Oh never ever!
Dan Merget
That's been kept deliberately vague, probably to avoid dating the comic if the specific game goes out-of-fashion. If Dan Shive were to specify, it would probably be a made-up game, similar to the way that Squirrel Prophet used "MagicKal cards" in a game that was clearly "Magic: The Gathering". But in my mind, it's D&D 5e, and Ellen DM'ed a previous version. Edit: Er, I mean, Elliot DM'ed a previous version. Which Ellen remembers doing. Dang, this gets weird to talk about.
Daryl Sawyer
Do we know what game they're playing?
Daryl Sawyer
Man, those hair fairies really don't get any credit.
KC
George being the Chadest of Chad Nerds
Copper Hamster
This works well. We have a guy when he was first running games on Roll20, someone else did all the behind the scenes work and helped with the rules, but didn't contribute per-se to the story. Hopefully for her she's going through a sane-upgrade and not an insane-upgrade. Say the difference between D&D 3.x and 5 than the difference between 2nd and 3.x. Or she doesn't remember anything at all and gets to start with that fresh, new GM feeling. Yes that's what that is, no-one ran ice down your spine.
Thisguy
Yeah, this makes sense. While knowing the rules helps, as the DM ultimately is the arbiter, any player can master the rules, so it is not a DM exclusive skill. A DM must first and foremost be able read the table and engage the players. Beyond that, the second most skill is able to guide and mediate (while not control).
Brooks Moses
It's not like we've established that the quality and behavior of the players has any effect on the difficulty of GMing, or anything like that....
AstroChaos
Hmm... Yeah, his logic checks out fine to me. So long as he isn't giving advice he's not giving her a leg up. And we know that George is infamously hard to read 😉
Stephen Gilberg
Of course there's a sideways breeze behind him now.
