[#51] Patreon Bonus
🕑 Added 2023-12-06 20:00:05 +0000 UTCQT and Maya continue the story, QT needs diapers, reality tv discussion, new Taylor Swift drama, and they check in on the subreddit.
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Miranda Carter
I really enjoy the red 😊
waterbuffaloes
that’s exactly what happened with me LOL! finally bit the bullet
Sun
QT squeezing me for money cause I love the drama
deestands4dorky
I like the red
Arrowni
OK yeah, she did nothing wrong in regards of what I mentioned, do not consider my comment an endorsement or drugs or mormonism or marrying jerks
Lezzerlee
Melatonin is regarded as fine for adults. But is unregulated and longterm effects have not been tested on kids. It should only be used for kids with doctor approval.
Lezzerlee
For adults. It's not tested on kids. It's unregulated and longterm effects on kids is not widely known.
Lezzerlee
That's not necessarily true for use for kids. It is unregulated, hasn't been tested at large on kids, and so the longterm effects for use in kids is widely studied. It should only be used for kids with doctor approval.
Lezzerlee
Have you talked to your doctor about doing this? Melatonin is a hormone and definitely needs to be carefully used with doctor approval. It's unregulated & not necessarily meant for kids.
Lezzerlee
She gave a kid melatonin. Melatonin is not tested on kids and is not necessarily safe for kids. It's a hormone. That's kinda fucked up. Everything else you said is true, but do not drug your kids with things that are not meant for them to achieve it.
Arrowni
Ok, let me put my parent hat for this and say: Ashley did nothing wrong. It's so difficult to actually give yourself some time and space when your kids are in your house that you have to set a boundary on which risks you take on them seeing things you don't want them to see or places you want them to be in, do you know how difficult it is to me to allow myself to take a nap? When you work a lot and your kids are around you want to make the most of being with them. And if you are single and need to get laid you try to give yourself the space best you can, heck this is difficult even when you are married. Now imagine that you did all this mental effort and planning only to have your would be lover to become freaked out because the proximity of your kid when you (the parent, the responsible one) already decided the boundaries you set to this endeavour, so while I understand the spirit behind being upfront about it, I also feel the parent should be the one making the decision
Redcoat
No problem, I think this got out hand. I think there was stuff I was wrong about and stuff you were wrong about. I think I started it by challenging you on something that didn't need challenging. I definitely respect the hardships of women in general. I'm aware of things like the rate of sexual harassment experienced. I would never want to be on this end of this kind of argument. The reason it struck me is that I've been poor, so I know that to be living in a 1 bedroom apartment could be a luxury even without a big closet. I mean, renting a room in a 3 bedroom house was a luxury. And then when I start thinking logically, there are multiple outs. You know? I think maybe part of it is that if I ever have a kid, then I will give them the upbringing they deserve.
FullPlaid
okay im going to respond and i will read your response to this if you decide to but otherwise i think this could go off the rails. i understand what it is like to be a man this day and age. ive identified as a man (cis) for most of my life but gravitate more towards fluid|non-binary. but regardless society identifies me as a man and i usually cant be bothered to correct anyone on it because its exhausting. anyway, yeah i know dude, trust me. i grew up being told that girls|women like the good guy but ive found that very much not to be the case. douche bags. a lot women love douche bags. they call it manly-men but lets be real, theyre assholes that dont treat women well. worse, if i try to bring up the point that im a feminist on a dating profile, im seen as a liar or as boring. dating apps are more about entering a cheat code or doing some ritualistic mating dance than being a good person that is genuinely interested in the person and making a meaningful connection. for example, i cannot tell you how many profiles ive read stating "dont just say hi or how are you" or heard women talk about good pick up lines. yo, good pick up lines? who does pick up lines? that literally tells you nothing about the guy other than he may have talked to some other douche bag on the internet about a creative pick up line that has gotten them laid. as you can tell im bitter. its fine. i still love women and i think this system has fucked everyone over, to include the good guys (a guy that puts in the effort to be caring). oh actually one more thing. being told not to be so nice. OMG WTF. no. first of all, im not "nice", i just give a fuck about other beings, but even still, there is rampant rape, abuse, and murder of women, and we are being told to not be so nice because its a turn off. what the fuck ever. but thats the thing. these problems arent going to solve themselves by guys become agro and women-haters or becoming douche bags to get laid. im holding the line. i work my fucking ass off to be a good feminist. my god damn hair is on fire because i have empathy and i can almost hear the screams for help. not a dame in distress. no, there is an ever present mass suffering of women. its not some stupid bitterness about not being able to find someone. as painful as it might be, weve got bigger concerns. im sorry youve had difficulty in your dating life. i get it but this is all definitely besides the original topic. the conversation they had was that the closet was rather comfortable for the child. i think i would reserve judgement until knowing if the closet was somehow a cruel space in anyway. for all we know it was a walk in closet. you can claim that thats not the case but you dont actually know so i think it would be better to condition your statement with an *if* rather than being definitive like you have all the information. and that is my point about feminism in this context. because although some men might be criticized in the same way as women for identical decisions, everything else isnt. men on average are given way more benefit of the doubt. women are constantly held to a higher standard. women care a significantly heavier burden than men on average. so not to make a mountain out of a mole hill but small scale perspectives do exert force in culture through accumulation. so i would say its pretty important to really try to understand the struggles women experience before passing judgement. finally, considering the current state of the abuse of women (have you seen the data|statistics?), i believe it is justified for feminists to challenge perspective that are potentially harmful to women. although your comment is probably inconsequential, the perspective that produced your comment should not be assumed be not hateful and should most certainly be challenged -- if only as an effort to get us closer to equality. (gd if you tell me we have equality... i swear to god lol)
Redcoat
*this is a separate point and i will try to not be abrasive because ive found men can be very reactive to this kind of thing: im getting a sense that you might lack an appreciation for the conditions women experience. im confident that your response might be that you DO have an appreciation for it and that you are aware of the undue suffering women are burdened with AND that you are even a feminist BUT i think i might challenge you on your level of awareness and empathy and compassion. i don't mean to be confrontational. i think its important for men to be challenged on these issues concerning feminism and the fairer treatment of women.* Personally, I don't think you understand the issues of men in this day and age. This whole thing seems crazy to me, as a man, because it seems obvious that a person should not do that. As a guy, that would be really fucked up if I had my 7 year old kid in closet while I hooked up with someone. The thing is, I put a stop to my dating the moment I realized I wasn't ready for it, and that was years ago. So you are talking to the wrong person. I really liked someone that didn't like me back (in that way), and then there were some girls that I didn't like back, but they liked me. And I hated the experience of that, so I stepped out of the game until I could fix myself, which I am still working on. I didn't even need to have a kid to step out of the game. But it's different of course. I don't need to be challenged on anything concerning fairer treatment of women. This isn't a case about unfair treatment towards women, though. *kid was exactly the same distance away but in their own room. in this case, would you still find it offensive that she is getting laid while her kid is nearby?* No, if the kid was in a different room, I would not have a problem with it, for many reasons.
FullPlaid
yeah im sure you could construct a scenario where it is less appropriate but youre ultimately filling in an unknown variable and using it to condemn a person. do you not believe in innocent until proven guilty. but then the other thing is, what exactly is she guilty of? what about sex is so offensive? okay, i understand someone having an issue with a kid being in a small closet; however, is there a problem with proximity because its conceivable in a counter-factual scenario that the kid was exactly the same distance away but in their own room. in this case, would you still find it offensive that she is getting laid while her kid is nearby? this is a separate point and i will try to not be abrasive because ive found men can be very reactive to this kind of thing: im getting a sense that you might lack an appreciation for the conditions women experience. im confident that your response might be that you DO have an appreciation for it and that you are aware of the undue suffering women are burdened with AND that you are even a feminist BUT i think i might challenge you on your level of awareness and empathy and compassion. i dont mean to be confrontational. i think its important for men to be challenged on these issues concerning feminism and the fairer treatment of women.
Ricardo Alberto
Tijuana mentioned
Redcoat
Yeah, I think another thing with the closet is that they live in a 1 bedroom apartment (from what was said). What kind of 1 bedroom apartment do you know of that has a large closet? They exist, but are not ideal when you are a single parent struggling to get by. The 1 bedroom apartments with a big closet are more expensive than low income 2 bedroom apartments. I think what we are seeing here is a low income 1 bedroom apartment. And I know about low income apartments, I used to be one. I understand the sexual needs thing, but it can't come at the expense of your own offspring, and quite frankly, most girls have much better opportunities to get laid than guys do. Like I said in my comment, she probably actually had the opportunity to set a date and time to get laid. I would also state that a lot of the incel movement is from not getting laid. Just like we don't condone incels, we should not condone this scenario.
Ethan McPhail
Im a brown hair fan haha
FullPlaid
yeah i hear you. i mean the *closet* sounds awful because that typically means a tiny enclosed area but it sounds like it was the kids private area. im not saying most people would be comfortable findinf out that a kid is sleeping nearby but im not sure i would go as far as labelling it as **bad** behavior. i also think there is a lack of understanding of how difficult it can be as a single parent. have you ever been so depressed that you cant even speak to tell someone something important? like you literally cant get your mouth to move but other things are within your strength still. its a weird phenomenon but anyway, sexual needs are real so if its not hurting anyone, maybe we can give women some slack.
Redcoat
It's a somewhat grey area, but I don't like it. Not getting laid is not an excuse for bad actions. This particular action is bad on multiple fronts. As a guy, I wouldn't want to hook up with someone while their child is literally sleeping (who knows if they wake up) in the closest. And the thing is, the woman could probably arrange a booty call for when they don't have the kid in their care. If they can call up someone on a moments notice and get a booty call...Usually, if a guy will get with a girl like that, it doesn't have to be at one specific time, they'll probably be down to plan a time. It doesn't sound like she forced into this situation, where her one shot to get laid is with her child sleeping (but also maybe awake) in the closet.
Yokkos_
QT I want you to know I am very mad at you because the cliffhanger was too good.
Taylor
Yesss dude like they were worried about talking about therapy too much and bumming us out and Maya will come on here and bring up shit like baby decapitation with 0 warning C'MON GUYS lmao
Taylor
You paid $5 to call her weird behind a paywall so who's the weirdo here?
BisonHero
Yeah, I'm on the same page with you. Maybe they were kid-dosage melatonin gummies, and maybe the kid already has sleeping problems or something, but at least the way QT presented the story, I don't like the idea of using melatonin as like "mommy's magical knockout pills" because the hookup couldn't wait for a weekend where the kid is being watched by the ex or having a sleepover with an aunt or grandparent or something.
Joseph Williams
Dr. Pol on Disney plus is a pretty good show.
Jared Silfies
Here i am representing the unknown non-gendered portion of the community! Love the content, always
Are-eem
Who are you talking bout you weirdo?
Elena Ivanova
I really like Maya's hair color. It actually inspirred me to change my hair to red too
Mitch Mitcherson
Maya looks good with any hair color. Sorry for the lame answer.
Alex Ozarud
Yooooo QT is a fucking weirdo. Leave these people alone lol
Samantha Gorongnag
i think black for maya’s hair
Samantha Gorongnag
here from the cliffhanger
HeartsAlight
I love your red hair maya :3 I think you should keep it
Michael
Love Taylor Time!!! Nothing will keep me from thinking that Midnights is a breakup album tho 🤪 Keeping a kid in the closet is crazy btw
Chatters_Mom
Yes the shorts !!!!!!
Anna Star
I’ve been using period underwear with a disc or cup for over 2 years and I love it! As far as staying dry it depends on how absorbent they are relative to your flow, like I have sleep shorts that are super absorbent and I always wake up feeling dry
Rx ScopezZ
Just want to let you know QT, I have been planning to join the Patreon for weeks if not months now but I keep forgetting and the cliff hanger was the final thing that made me just do it now. So even if you don't feel like it did much, you did technically at least gain one new Patreon sub
BakedZD
If the daughter in the closet was awake that could be traumatizing
D + L
hiiii new patreons smile
D + L
the red is cute maya
Kyle Lewis
TV show for Maya... Amazing Race
Ana Sofia Ortiz
I just subscribed to see the ending of the story. worth it
Brandi Taylor
I have two kids. I give them melatonin nightly. It's 1mg. My oldest could go to sleep without it. Youngest we suspect has ADHD. Dude could stay up past midnight and then wake up at 5am (his normal wake up time, despite multiple attempts at changing it). I'd rather give him 1mg of melatonin to ensure him and big sis (who he will wake up -_-) get a full 10 hours of sleep. Sleep is crucial for development. Melatonin is naturally occurring. Now, if my kids got nightmares from it (a common side effect), I'd stop it. Thankfully they do not.
S Quayle
That god I was already subscribed jokes on you. 😏 Btw that story old af. But surprised it's true sense a lot of tik Tok is just made up unrealistic garbage https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/trial-begins-mon-for-mom-found-pushing-dead-son-in-swing/67610/
ummmheather
shout out to the ladies
Chatters_Mom
Ive been using them for about 6-8 months and ive been pleasently surprised !
Fren
I’ve been thinking about getting some, but does the whole thing about them staying “dry” hold up? The feeling of everything just sitting there while I go about my day is the biggest reason I don’t stray from tampons
Trophy Kitty
And the show after because they actually had leftovers
shpence
the cliffhanger quite literally got me to pull the trigger on subscribing, well played qt LMAO
Nettles
I think a deeper reddish brown would really suit Maya, also it's such a winter vibe
Sqootr
Qt the cliffhanger worked 🙃
exclusivepeanutbutter
Maya looked like she wanted to pass out on melatonin in a walk in closet when QT described the silicone forehead implant
Kaitlyn
Agreed.
Mark Jones
Bad Bunny finally being dethroned for top global artist is a sad one for me, but congrats to the Swiftys (swifties?)
J
do an ombre with blonde at the tips maya
Klav
forsen
CampingAvocado
I mixed it up lol, we get 1 to maximum 5 mg, whereas in the US I've seen much higher dosages prescribed
FullPlaid
the tissue underneath the skin is compartmentalized. im not sure how they do implants, but they might make use of it.
FullPlaid
your red hair is ****ing dope
FullPlaid
i imagine sometimes it might be tough to get laid when raising a young kid as a single parent, so i wouldnt blame the mom for not saying anything if she was just trying to get some. probably not a great idea if she is looking to start a relationship.
FrostWolf
Thank you for the kind reply. I don't think they read my comment I made on the episode you're referring to. I really hope they could just preface these sort of stories with a "Hey, listeners, we are about to touch on a very sensitive topic" or something simple. Instead of just like "I'm about to talk about something tragic, really tragic" which doesn't compare at all to the magnitude of what was said.
Ari Abreu
Dawg. You got the sub from me here. It definitely worked. Edit: CPS
ThominosPizza
Surely the obvious musical choice is a vtuber; they're all singers and stuff
Argenis
The melatonin bit feels very wrong but her kid sleeping in the closet is fine. Your poor and the kid is practically a baby it's gonna be fine sleeping in a walk in closet. I would have just waited until a night where the kid is with the dad to invite someone over
Chatters_Mom
QT should definitely try period underwear !!!! look up Knix underwear
Chatters_Mom
I subbed because of the cliff hanger (been wanted to sub for like 3 months)
James
Damn I really got baited into subbing. Worth it
Melz
Great episodes this week, thankyeeeew <3
Juliana McKenna
stay red!
Melz
It'd be way to easy to leak the unlisted links unfortunately
Melz
That's fair. TBH I'm surprised Maya even went there (though she def thought about if she should) after the last time she told a horrific baby story and totally blew the mood. I hope you weren't triggered too bad, friend.
Melz
This is one of those times when the distinction between the vagina and the vulva is a very important one, key to understanding what is actually being talked about lol
Stephanie
30mg is high though, how is that crazier than the US?
Stephanie
You're Losing Me wasn't a Target exclusive it was on a CD only sold at her MetLife shows lol
Lindsey
THERE ARE DOZENS OF US
Johanne Almoza
Have you thought about creating a wine about it Patreon YouTube channel, where you could add these videos as unlisted. The format would be easier to watch.
Ryan Wu
Been wanting to watch Weed About It since it came out but this ep’s cliffhanger finally got me to join 😭
FrostWolf
Once again, can we PLEASE get a trigger warning before talking about death and extreme harm topics :(
Runying Gao
I think Maya should either keep the red or go all out and dye it black
Kayla Michelle Lopez
Same lol
thestep
Maya should go blonde like QT
VINEGARSYNDROME
melatonin is fine to have every night because it's just a hormone, in fact i was told by my doctor to have it every day at the same time otherwise it wouldn't work (she was right i am bad with routines and it didn't work)
allocat5867
The payday loan thing sounds like Kiva, but for payday loans lol
Fletcher Clark
I hadn't subscribed to the patreon yet and had been thinking about it for the extra content but that cliffhanger sold it for me.
allocat5867
Team Keep Red so you match Winnie!!!
Halie
I unsubed a while ago but that cliffhanger got me back
ali
MAYA GO BLONDE
FrancoShady
Damn the cliff hanger really got me here 😂
Erikv
Cliff hanger got me here first time Memder thanks qt. You gal’s are make life bearable at the moment thanks
Sorin
My opinion is that Maya's hair color that she's having right now suits her.
Marthentic
I had to sub to hear the ending of QTs story and that shit didn't disappoint. lmao
Ryon
I love how pretty the red is, but I think brown will look better for the winter time
Heather von Tater
Same 🤣
Manny Rod
I’m not female but congrats on the 30% female viewers. That’s pretty cool
Shunbound
Melatonin is fine. It's supposed to help regulate sleep. Little to no side effects at all.
CampingAvocado
While melatonin isn't a hard drug, the dosages and the frequency of use in the US are fucking crazy compared to what we use in Europe. Like *1mg is a standard prescribed dosis here
jamfarts
Ok I kind of hate overnight pads because it like... gets in your crack... no??? just me??? horrible sensation in the morning.
James McKenzie
good cliffhanger
Emily Haworth
i love the red, maybe you could go a deeper red this time, more like cowboy copper.
spilt milk
had to rewatch the end of the previous episode bc I already completely forgot the first half of the story 😂
cierra
happy to be here 🫶🏻
Eric C
Everyone saying red, I say switch it up and go blonde or black
Millennium
Same in fact I switched my membership from fear& to this
Trent
That cliffhanger got me to join the patreon 🤣
Jeppe Oliver Danielsen
I like the red hair!
Jose Marin
Crazy ass story not telling someone their daughter is in the closet but I guess get it while you can? Based on her history though I think she’s just Mormon by default and doubt she follows the actual rules anymore. Melatonin is fine to use regularly as long as you don’t use too much. It’s better to get bloodwork done to make sure it’ll actually help. A lot of people take it as a sleeping pill but it just helps get your body into that sleeping phase. Of course if you stare at your phone it won’t help-I’ve tried a ton of sleeping remedies. -I like the red that maya got, I would just re-do it and make it bright again. -so I checked out solo fund and looks like that front page is just their credo not quotes from the people in the pics. That said this sounds terrible unless you’re fine giving money away because there’s no security on your money, it’s basically just a hub to get connected but if people don’t pay it’s on you to get it back.
Shelby
Keep the red hair it’s a fun color! But a brown root would look really cool too. Shout out to the listener that reminded QT about the Taylor Drama.
dee
FEMALE 30% REPORTING INNNNN
Chloe Rene
I think the red looks really good on you Maya, you should keep it a while longer!
jamfarts
Couldn't this kid like go have a sleepover with a friend? Huhhhh???
Sara
Hi QT I hope this will get to you! I would buy the Christmas sweaters, but unfortunately my size is not available!! I love my Aiden merch! It would be perfect if you could continue to provide up to a 5X :) thank you ❤️
Daddywarbucks
I think the red hair looks really good
Sophia
I somehow knew exactly where the story would go yet I was still shocked in the end
emmy ★彡
YAYYYY DRAMA
Kevin Jimenez
That cliffhanger is a great idea ngl
Dillon Hoffpauir
Wahoooo
AxialMars
wowie