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🕑 Added 2024-04-10 19:00:08 +0000 UTC

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Jozer

39:06 ☝️😏 guilty

Thique

been catching up on months of the pod lately and it has been a delight, but my god I wish we had timestamps or something in the description for those that find the taylor swift lore/info dumps abhorrent to sit through. I am not trying to put anyone down for their interests, but it is so hard to listen to for me personally, and it's especially cathartic seeing Maya completely lost and trying her best to feign interest during parts lol. It has been a struggle simply because it reeks of pure gossip (as another commenter put it somewhere above) and the amount of tinfoil hat speculation is about as nice to listen to as any absurd, facebook-tier conspiracy nonsense imo

GammaDan

Their faces right after the video ends are so funny lmao

Anastasia

I hope y'all get into Chappel Roan!!

Melz

Welcooooome!

Melz

Genuinely

Haihan Lin

it sounds like the landlord lady just has weird conception against young rich girlies tbh

Nathalie Lawson

This was my exact thought

Ansley Partosa

One of my favorite things about subbing is for the in depth Taylor Swift updates

Chatters_Mom

Would be funny if QT's package, lets say her adress is 109 and the 0 fell off and this lady's adress is 19 of that same street and its actually her package 😅

Adrianna Moffitt

Let's not forget that the JoJo music video is right after she got called out for creating a HORRIBLE work environment for her kids dance group XOMG POP!. All of that is buried now with "rage bait."

Adrianna Moffitt

To go from "Maya how can you be excited for a new Billie album?" to "it's my opinion and mine alone." It's Maya's opinion, Maya's take. Take your own words and apply it to yourself.

Annette Poulton

I agree with Maya, Taylor is subject to so much sexist shit from the music industry and non fans alike but it’s also irresponsible to continue chumming the waters with every release for fans to sniff out the demons and villains of the next album. If these details are important to her to include in her songs it doesn’t make her a better or worse artist if the average fan doesn’t know about it.

YourPalAnthony

Wrong

Heather James

I don’t care! It’s my opinion and mine alone if you don’t like it. Well I’m sorry that’s on you! And I’ll say it again Billie is overrated!!

ntGonzo

I wish they would edit out the parts where they're looking stuff up and it's radio silence

carpetburns

Maybe I’m crazy but why the hell does renting lady care. If you got the money, which she can see on paper, and it comes through consistently on time then what does it matter with all the details of it? Is there something I’m missing?

carpetburns

Calling someone overrated is the biggest nothing of a criticism. People need to make legitimate points if they’re going to criticize someone on their work

77katz77

In Caroline's recent video about Stan culture she covered how Swifties can go absolutely insane. If anyone hasn't watched it yet I'd definitely recommend.

Samuel Lazar

I agree with Maya about the Taylor thing.

Heather James

Respectfully I am. Also you’re not my dad.

Samuel Lazar

Respectfully, calm down.

Sami

I just love this podcast and so glad yall exist

BisonHero

To Maya's defense, I think it's one thing if the lyrics of your songs are a little emo (Billie). Maybe that's just how your creative output is feeling lately. It's another thing to put out a mysterious poem riddle prologue to promote the upcoming album (Taylor). Maybe the promotion riddles are "part of the artistic process" as much as the songs themselves (are they based on the lyrics in the full album?), but I'm a little more with Maya's viewpoint that it's a cringe vague poetry prologue pretending to be deep.

BisonHero

Yeah, pop culture is just very fragmented and weird now. First, one had to be on a specific corner of reality TV to know or care who Jojo Siwa even is, then second, one now has to be on a specific corner of TikTok to be on the bandwagon of everyone shitting on her and the music video.

BisonHero

QT is renting the space, and in terms of inventory the shop has a bunch of undecorated items and a bunch of decorations/glitter. Groups of people can book time to decorate the items and socialize. I guess you'd call it like an "arts & craft experience."

Emma

i’ve been listening to wine about it since it’s og inception and i finally just joined the patreon and this is wicked! i listen on my commute and now i don’t have to keep re-listening to old episodes!

Heather James

Billie sucks I’m sorry! I know a lot of people love her but I think she is just overrated. Her brother is better in my opinion. Also love the Swiftie PowerPoint! We love her! Also Maya how can you be excited for a new Billie album. and be like the new Taylor album looks emo! And not interested?! When Billie is the definition of emo!?!? Love you both!

BisonHero

Not the Taylor Swift numerology again!

linda

their faces while watching the music video were so funny

Sun

I think the land owner has reasonable concerns cause I’d be there and crazy if I wasn’t so tired and lazy

maristars

I havent had a chance to comment before, and im taking a little break from the podcast but qt and maya talking so openly about therapy and their experiences has genuinely made such a difference in how i view my own mental health, and the mental health of those around me. Im a 21 girlie and still learning a lot about life, I will never understand everything but therapy is so important to me because I've heard others talk about how good therapy is and see how it helps them. If anyone is struggling with whether or not they need therapy pls put yourself first! Taking care of your mental health helps so much:)

Couran

This episode was nice.

Greg Chuggs

I think theyre giving JoJo too much credit in regards to rage baiting. People grew up hating her so theyre gonna hate her (unnecessarily) for almost anything she does. JoJo is just doing her own thing and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. People are gonna hate regardless of whether its deserved or not.

Tina S

Love getting my Taylor swift lore in through QT

Nettles

I agree with Maya, defintely did not sound like Joe said Alison, he's also doing an Irish accent in the show, which is probably why it's hard to understand what he's whispering

Fjodor

maybe something for when people ask more questions about what you do qt, relate it back to a daily radio show, like you're known in the circles of people who watch/listen, and your communication is daily but not like in person. maybe that'll help explain it in some way for them

Chris

one problem people are kind of forgetting with taylor allowing (and arguably encouraging) speculation surrounding the breakup with joe is that it comes at the cost of viewing her music as anything more than gossip. less and less of her OWN FANS are listening to her music because of the artistry behind it, they’re listening because they think they’re her friend and want to know more about her private life. folklore and evermore are no longer being viewed by fans as examples of taylor’s immense musical strength, they’re seen as the cracks in their relationship. midnights isn’t seen as a thoughtful album where retrospection is used as a form of introspection, it’s now only seen as the breakup album that no one knew was a break up album. i really wish we could go back to the days where we loved songs like all too well and enchanted and clean and fifteen because of what they meant to us, not because of taylor’s personal life.

Aidan Mark

Jojo siwas song is stolen from this girl name Brit Smith original song came out in 2012 https://youtu.be/v3eYjDJdI5k?si=czitb_WnF1TPkuva

Erika

i crossed my entire life as soon as you guys said "live wine about it cafe-esque style show" cause i'm def gonna drag my friend to go with me & attend the first show :') can't wait for the merch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

deestands4dorky

Maybe, idk you could buy your own building and charge peeps to do pop ups and events there. I work at a donut shop and my bosses want to buy the building from the landlord so I know it's expensive but it would be a good investment.

Whitsoxrule

Maybe I'm just an angsty bitch but I didn't hate JoJos music video lol I'd give it a solid 6.5/10

Babafunlayo Oke

LAMMMOOO Maya's face watching that video.

carpetburns

It’s definitely not “kill myself bad” but all the branding around it has been done pretty poorly. It’s pretty crazy to portray this “bad girl” persona when it’s all being done on the back of a song that was shopped around through the music industry for a while. Overall just exceptionally mid. But get that bag or something I guess idk

danibaby

I think the jojo thing is that ppl love to hate online but i don't think its that big of deal offline or that the song had much impact other than curiosity for some ppl. nobody in my irl life has brought up jojo's song during our pop culture gossip session and we talk a lot of shit

Anxietysalsa

landlord probably thought Qt was a Nepo baby if she didn't have a rich husband LMAO

Anxietysalsa

Maya's first thought about the reaction to the sex filled videos of male artists vs jojo is the same thoughts I had!

Elijah

Keeping everything crossed for the deco den den!

PacFu

In terms of the deco den den, I still don't get it. Essentially, you are renting a space to rent the space?

olzy02

thanks for the birthday gift besties 🥰 definitely intentional

Elijah

Thank you for showing us all the music video for jojo’s new song. Another thing i forgot about jojo’s legacy is that apparently there was some dance competition show where jojo was the lead or trainer or something and she had to pick and make up her dance troupe and all that, and apparently the contestants in the show have spoken out about their shit treatment on the show and I don’t think that show came out too long ago. The kids on the how talked about having to practice long hours each day, when someone had a medical thing happen they were urged to return to dancing before the doctor’s recommended. So that’s super cool lmao, just wanted to bring that to everyone’s attention as I know its a meme to clown on jojo rn, but maybe lets not forget victims of her piss poor actions

Ketsueki Mox

She didn't write the karma one it was a girl named Britney or brit Smith? (I can't remember names) I believe she bought the song off of her so no she didn't write the lyrics

beechings (Abbie)

irl crossed my fingers for u for decodenden wahoo

Akumu2100

26:00 Maya was so lost. As was I.

Aura

Sounds like it was more of QT doing a bad job explaining than the land owner being unable to grasp what her profession is due to being old. It's not like she's never heard of a social media influencer before

ali

the karma radio edit is so fuckin funny

Attabui

BUT I am so excited for the DekoDen journey!! I can't wait to go once it's up and running!

Nasym Dous

ok that explains why it feels so 2012, even if they changed the beat hahaha

Attabui

I will say to Maya's point at 14:00 that yes, male artists do this all the time, but Jojo Siwa is by NO means, the first queer artist to have an explicitly sexual video. People (or at least rational people) don't get upset with sexy queeer videos, but this one is just incredibly bad and cringey 😭. Like I will watch Chapelle Roan, Troy Sivan, Kehlani, lilNasX, Orville Peck, or Boy Genius homo it up any day!

Brooklyn Gordon

QT, Maya and I had the same expression while watching the music vid holy shit lmao

Torayume

I love the updates on the deco den den. This lady seems so sweet. Hopefully a great partnership incoming. Although Offline TV's line was crazy~

inflatablepenguin

probably one of the worst music videos ive ever seen. bad lip syncing, weird ass lighting, dancing didnt fit the music, terrible CGI, thats before you even get to the music.

Anushka Narasani

is it just me or is jojos song fine like lw i would listen to it

Autie_Dino

I see why prospective Deco Den Den Landlady liked QT's energy, hopefully that will sway her to take the chance and then see how good all the uses are for the space

Phuong Le

nice

Kukiko Hana

I think what makes the Joe Alwyn scene more sus is that she responded 'yes' as if responding to her name. Idk I hear ___son and cannot think of anything else it could be... but also if he did say her name it's wild that they would include it in the final cut

AstralJems

so apparently karma was a song made back in 2012 with a full music video by someone named brit smith and produced by timbaland. tbh the original version is kinda slays in a 2012 way. timbaland shows up in the mv and miley also recorded a demo for the song. i know its normal for songs to get sold and passed around but its so weird how much jojos pushing this narrative that she wrote her songs

exclusivepeanutbutter

finallyyyy. i waited 3 heatdeaths for this episode

ashyc

jojo siwa was just on call her daddy I think … I don’t want to watch it but I’m so curious

Jose Marin

Funny that they didn’t get the video because generally music videos have little to do with the music, at least it used to be that way maybe they’re more literal now? Lil nas x I believe got a lot off flack for his sexualized videos. I think it’s just anyone not straight showing their sexual orientation gets hate cus ppl are so close minded. Maya trying to rationalize irrational obsessed fans is hilarious. She always tries to give qt the benefit but sometimes you just can’t 😂 Jojo siwa’s song was catchy, very basic but catchy for sure. Not sure why qt would think she’s trying to be Taylor with that line she adlibbed, not everyone is trying to be her 🤷‍♀️