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Quaranteam: Book 2, Chapter 15

🕑 Added 2023-09-08 07:01:05 +0000 UTC

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Ian B

I thought Andy’s story in the tavern was brilliant. Much needed jovialness to what is a hard subject in a sometimes harsh world

James Wafer

I'd take out the reference to leaving by boats it's 2000km just to Australia so the timeline you established for how long people had to get paired doesn't work with leaving NZ by boat

JC

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Corrupting Power

I think our ballpark back-of-envelope estimates put it at something between 15mil-20mil. Keep in mind, this is in less than a year's time, and doesn't account for any other fatalities that may occur during the time that follows afterwards. You can also assume there were lots of suicides somewhere along the way, just as mass depression settled in. Suicide clustering is a thing, and certainly also contributes to the difference. But the US is one of the countries in the *best* shape. Most of the other nations are in far more dire straits. And whenever there's a giant shakeup of the power structure, things tend to get rattled around. The overprotectiveness could be seen as a power grab by women who now have a chance to control the narrative, a sense of panic and an overzealous kneejerk reaction to the sudden loss, a combination of the two, or something else entirely.

Miles Bishop

This might have been discussed before, but I haven't been able to find it in previous discussions but am not going to go through all old comments to see if it has been or not. So, the big concern is the loss of so many men and what, the human race dying out? I know that losing 80 percent of the men in the US is a big chunk, somewhere along the lines of 132 million men. Based on the 2020 census that still leaves 33 million men in the US. Take out teen males (13 to 19) who did not survive and the elderly (65+). They account for roughly 25% of the male population so that drops it to roughly 25 million men. So, 25 million men, 160 million women. Men aren't in any danger of going extinct. In the 1850 census the US population was just over 23 million people, so around 16.5 million men. That means after the pandemic there's a little less than half as many men alive in the US than there were 170 years ago. The big thing is it killed a lot of people, mostly men, but it's not an extinction event or anything that serious. It sounds much more like the population reduction scenarios that Eric was talking about in book one. Just had to get this down as I was assuming that the high fatality rate had reduced the population of men to a fraction. But the numbers make some of the storyline (male protection act in particular) a bit harder to accept because, barring a major mutation or other unknown factor, there's still a lot of men out there and the overprotective zealousness seems out of place. Unless I'm missing something obvious or not so obvious, in which case I'd like to hear what that is so I can figure out how I missed it. I've read the story several times and seem to notice something new each time, so it's entirely possible I missed something.

Corrupting Power

Funny you say that, because this is mostly a non-partisan take on how the country would require adaptation to scaling in a world where a large portion of the population is suddenly just gone/dead. I tried to keep it middle-of-the-road, with both sides having to make severe compromises in order to just get by day-by-day, and neither political party being "right" or "wrong," simply working together to get everyone to their next sunrise. So I'm not really sure how you read it as "jumped the shark politically," especially since, as lots of people have pointed out, this is just survival.

EG42

Woah, jumped the shark politically this chapter. Skeptical on how it goes from here


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