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Quaranteam 2:10

🕑 Added 2023-06-11 01:01:14 +0000 UTC

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EG42

Pretty sure Niko said the every morning thing

Admiral Ale

Goodbye??? Great chapter. I just wonder if it is the end. The last 2 Weekly Updates have no references to QT whatsoever, guess something has to go when there are to many other money makers pileup. Stay safe

Edward Becerra

Simplest solution to this "encoding" problem? Earplugs. You can't hear a command if you can't *hear*. I suppose that could be gotten around using visual commands, but then things get a bit complex. And given the apparent cunning of the SOB who did the programming, I expect he's left further traps to be discovered.

Cynthia Parker

loved the last chapter can't wait to see what happens when he sees his family and old friends in the next chapter.

J.D.

I think that Declan having the short sighted bad taste to bitch to Pipers sister that she shouldn’t marry Andy and that it is Stockholm Syndrome shows me exactly what type of person Dec is while throwing in that America needs to return to good old Christian family beliefs. If Declan would stop and pull his head out of his ass and maybe do some learning about how marriage makes no difference if your paired to the person then it is just usually a religious ritual that involves most,y outdated vows and rituals along with the bride dressing her best friends hideously and no wedding is complete without the required cake. When I hear Christian family values it somehow comes out of a mouth of someone who harkens back to the white male (usually) in charge of the family and he makes all important decisions since they know womenfolk aren’t capable of anything more than cooking, cleaning, fucking, birthing and raising kids. The future of family interaction outside of team rook should be very interesting and especially so at the wedding.

Krysm Phoenix

Good chapter, though I notice that in this book there has been a bit of a shift to glossing over conversations. Theres a lot of characters and scenes to include so I get it, but I cant help but notice it being more of a trend.

JC

no, don't feel bad! awesome that you spotted it!

Dennis McNulty

Here's a thought; Andy and Declan's arguments illustrates the eternal story that you can pick your friends but you can't pick your family. I think that in a, now somewhat apocoliptic, world in which a significant portion of the male population has been killed off, surviving charachters would strive to figure out how to solve obvious problems, i.e. feeding the population, power production, ect. rather than clinging to petty ideas. I love the character developments in this wonderful ongoing world and I'm curious to find out what or how CP thinks survivors will adapt.

Hugh Peeble

Sorry… didn’t mean to spoil. Now I feel bad.

Corrupting Power

Man, and I hoped I was going to sneak that by until the next chapter... ;)

Corrupting Power

Telamonster - my comment about "Ohio is a pretty red state" is just meant to say you're going to see a wide spectrum of people Andy doesn't agree with, from those who are hyper competent to those who aren't as well-versed. Andy's argument about identity politics is meant to show how easily conversations like this get derailed. Hell, Andy even *knows* he's taking the bait when he does it, but he does it anyway, and I thought it was kind of obvious that Andy isn't painted in the most flattering of light by that exchange either. The point he was trying to make was that people use catch phrases like 'identity politics' because they often don't want to engage in the bigger issues behind it. Had he been less on the back foot, Andy probably would've pointed out that the people arguing 'for identity politics' are generally just arguing 'I want my identity to be as valid as yours, and have the same rights' and... that's it? The next few chapters are meant to be a little heavier on the political stuff, just because Andy's out in the world, touring through people who all reacted differently to a global crisis. I mean, to some extent, the protestors have a fair point -- Andy *did* get special treatment. This chapter was meant to be the start of a longer examination, but Declan was by no means meant to be painted as a bad guy, just someone who feels like an attack on his argument is an attack on him personally, and while I'd argue that's a flaw, it's certainly a very human and relatable one, and something both sides need to learn how to deal with. How? Shit, if I knew that, I'd be happy to share...

Todd Garrison

Very good, interesting reveal kohnpobka and how it effected Melody. Where are you going with the Rook Family women establishing dominance over other women in regards to Andy?

TM

My reading of the "Quarenteam" novels is that they contains themes about the very high cost of disinformation and religious sexual morality on our society. That is an inherently political point of view. Is Declan a straw man? I feel like he is a lot more reasonable than a lot of American conservatives that I encounter every day. I think these readers who are upset about Andy's politics might be missing the point. Telling an author to silence their main character's political point of view is to shape that character's personality in a way that contradicts what he is all about, and what has been important to his character and personality from the jump. Andy has strong opinions. I figure you will probably keep it that way, considering how well defined he is.

Hugh Peeble

I live near Cincinnati and the Embassy Suites Rivercenter is in Covington Ky directly across the Ohio River from Downtown Cincinnati. You can walk to the Reds and Bengals stadiums across the Suspension Bridge from there…

Kodenkan

Although since I agree with Andy‘s point of view, I almost assuredly am opposed to parts of yours, I have to commend you on an excellent articulation of a potential threat looming (and potentially weighing) upon the series. Debate requires two similarly armed sides to be interesting, and it does seem that Andy’s opponents are phoning it in and portrayed as less intelligent, and or worldly.

Telamonster

At this point, you’ve presented Andy as willing to engage with opposing views several times. Earlier in book two he publicly sparred with a US representative in the hearing - in book time that was, what, a week or two ago? In real time it was only a few chapters ago. My point is that this aspect of his character, and/or the entire character of this opposition, is already well established and as such further reinforcement in support of future development is redundant. Of course, I don’t have knowledge of where the plot is going, so it may be that you feel the need to beat this dead horse to serve the plot later. That said, “Ohio’s a pretty red state, and I don’t intend to shy away from that” is telling me that you aren’t trying to present this opposition as a chance for character growth, but rather as a simplistic ego stroking for like-minded readers. This is entirely within your rights as the author of this content, of course; I just wanted to push back a bit on what I perceive as you stepping into a trap that will limit your ability to have Andy grow as a character without requiring obvious cognitive dissonance or some manner of retconning.

JC

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JC

I just wish you wouldn't straw-man opposing points of view, or let Andy make bad/false arguments without being challeged.

JC

Totally agree - any view other than Andy's/CP's gets stereotyped and turned into a straw man. > And you know who complains about identity politics? People whose identities haven’t ever been threatened. Aside from the logical fallacy here (the people who complain about a viewpoint has nothing to do with its accuracy or truth), it's simply false, as there are many minorities who complain about identity politics.

JC

where are you getting that?

J.D.

Ever since the vaccination and pairings, Andy has not been the sit around and let others make his life decisions without learning as much as possible, talking things out with his family and his friends who are not only intelligent but also tend to have more information than is available to the regular citizens. When he found out the truth about how many people were killed and how the government was covering it up, he wanted to anonymously release the information without thinking it through but he had his family and friends reel him in. I look forward to watching his anger and his thought process while he weighs the pros and cons and talks it out with team Rook, Eric and Phil since they always bring the interesting info that usually blows Andy’s mind.

Corrupting Power

We'll be seeing a lot more of the other side moving forward, but the book is told from Andy's perspective, so he's always going to have thoughts on it. Keep in mind, Andy's been pretty insulated in New Eden for a while, and the pit vipers there are rather unrepentant. But Dec shows Andy's more than willing to engage with people on all sides of the spectrum, as long as they're willing to make the effort. There's be more of that as we continue onward. Ohio's pretty red state, and I don't intend to shy away from that.

Telamonster

Good stuff, and I’ve enjoyed reading this since the start. I hope that you consider either leaving the politics out entirely, or giving Andy a thoughtful opposition rather than the angry/frustrated caricatures that you’ve presented thus far. Even if it’s just Andy’s internal thoughts rather than an attempt at exploring the different perspectives, the lack of effective challenge feels like plot armor; it reduces the depth of his character and risks stagnation in his growth without some other form of challenge in the story.

Hugh Peeble

LoL… they didn’t want to stay in a hotel named Covington so they are going to stay in one in the city of Covington, Kentucky… irony at its finest.

Kaywye

Totally awesome. I love how you honor the entire spectrum of political territory, and yet still have Andy plant his flag where he believes it should be without compromise. (And like every person, he can still catch himself being aggravated by those that disagree with him, even if he catches himself.)


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