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Premium Episode 77 - Trotskyism pt. 5: “Let One Hundred Fourth Internationals Bloom”, or, the Fair Play For Trotsky Committee, feat. Comrade Chad
🕑 Added 2023-11-22 21:02:35 +0000 UTC(second of two episodes)
Today I'm rejoined by Comrade Chad to continue our discussion about post-Trotsky Trotskyism in the US. We continue discussing Burnham's various intrigues and we go pretty deep on Joseph Hansen's perfidious career. Along the way we get into the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Socialist Workers Party history generally.
I go through Lyndon LaRouche's early career as a Trot leading up to him starting his own idiosyncratic movement. Chad discusses the Carleton College crew, Jack Barnes, and so forth. Finally, I finish up discussing the case of the Paine family and their relationship to the JFK assassination.
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Your Cheatin’ Heart by Hank Williams
St. Thomas by Sonny Rollins
Wrecking Ball by Miley Cyrus
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Comments
Rafał Gałczyński
Grover Furr. The guy who claims that it was Germans who exterminated Polish officers at Katyń and that Stalin had nothing to do with it whatsoever. This was the official version of events in Polish People's Republic. You couldn't speculate publicly that it might have been Stalin. It was impossible to publish a book claiming "well, it looks like Russians did it". The teacher at the history lesson couldn't say " well, to my mind, it was Russians" because he would get into trouble. The descendants of the murdered officers couldn't start an organization which would say "we don't know what the truth is, but we wanna find out". The truth was already known and revealed by the party, so why look for it. In other words, Stalin and Katyń couldn't be said in the same sentence unless you whispered it in the privacy of your home. So, guys like Grover Furr makes me sick and I can see nothing subversive or liberating in what this poor bastard has to say. He has spent like all his life in this warm and soft Canada, the country, which hasn't seen the real war like never ever although it managed to massacre a few Indian tribes and a few hundreds dogs after the Calgary Olympics (because theye weren't needed any more), earning money that most people here in eastern Europe will never see and pontificatimg about Stalin. Why doesn't he come here and taste for himself what the life after Stalin really is like?
Rafał Gałczyński
Trotsky said that communism would fall either because the workers would rebel and abolish it or the party functionaries would become capitallists. He was somehow right. First, workers rebelled. Then, the functionaries abolished communism and began to take over the assets. Characteristically, in the countries with strong workers organizing, the theft of public property was less common.
it's really tied in
Aaron Snelling
Woah what's the deal with zapata oil mentioned in reference to the disruption of the Mexican cp? Please give me some info here. Was that a joke or is that really tied in?
River B
The end song had me dying
voteforjefe
Aaaaaah of course LHO and the FPCC come up, well-played! I commented on the last episode that I’d just watched The Irishman recently. The “Fairy named Ferrie” scene (with what I think was a very brief appearance by Angleton in the background) was a great jumpscare lmfao
BTR
This is my jam. Had to listen to the whole series again. Content dense.
