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Zenith of Sorcery Test Chapter 1

🕑 Added 2021-05-05 23:42:37 +0000 UTC

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Domagoj Kurmaic

Hi Dragon Master. It's definitely not too late for feedback. There is a reason why this is titled 'test chapter'. Nothing is finalized yet, and I definitely intend to rewrite this chapter (and the rest) before eventually posting them. You definitely have a point with the opening. However, I haven't found this kind of iconic opening section for Zenith of Sorcery yet. You're right, it should be further east. In general, the geography of the land seems unclear, since I have received a lot of comments about it being confusing. I'm still considering how to change it to make more sense. In regards to typos, they are certainly useful to point out, but this is not the final version of the chapter so I'm not too concerned by them yet. This is why I haven't fixed any that have been pointed out - I have copied the typos into a document and I will check to see if any of the pointed stuff still remain after the changes to the chapter, but I don't have any intention of fixing the typos in this post itself.

Hello. Just subbed to your Patreon today after finishing Mother of Learning not long ago. A bit late - maybe very late - to the party but perhaps you're still taking feedback. Who knows. My first concern is about the opening lines/paragraph. I encountered a notion in which having a very rememberable opening line, either plot-relevant or something eccentric or quirky that the reader can take back with them and ponder over and even recognise on sight. MoL had that. The opening lines of Kirielle waking him up and those same lines repeated over the duration of the time-loop was fantastic to me. In contrast, while the opening lines here only introduced the setting and nothing else. Maybe change that into a witty introduction of Marcus? Just a thought. Now on to some other bits. >a life-bearing world full of life and civilization, much like his own. The clause 'much like his own', IMO, should be deleted as it's quite redundant, especially since the following paragraph asks 'Was this his own world?', and on a tangent here, perhaps it can be changed to an internal thought of Marcus something along the lines of "Is this XXX" with XXX being the name of the planet in which Marcus lives in. It provides a step of world-building and seems logical that Marcus should know the name of his planet. Onto a problem regarding the world's geography. As far as I understand it, there is the forest, the Sea of Leaves, in the centre of perhaps this continent, and Syracuse is a small nation on the eastern edge of the Great Golden Plains, bordering this forest. And I suppose the Silver League is a country-level or perhaps higher political entity of the surrounding regions, comprising of the magic academies and what other powers there exist. Now, I hope I'm not misunderstanding this due to my own lacking reading skills, but here is the problem I found: >Further west This should be east? Since the forest is in the middle and Marcus is seen leaving with the forest 'to the east of him', I assume he is now on the western side of the forest. So for the road to get closer to the forest, it should be saying 'Further east', to punctuate going east of the eastern edge, into the Sea of Leaves. Some typos I noticed, though I don't know if they matter since I have seen other comments noting some of them but they are yet to be changed. Perhaps you plan on rewriting it sometime? Who knows. >he managed to fine a reasonably Again, I hope this is not my misunderstanding (knowing me, it probably is) but this should be 'managed to find'? >“FirstAcademy War?” Marcus asked Missing space between the words. >Such as this.” Thought this could be 'Such as here', since Pellast is talking of the region is he currently in. Not really a typo since both are fine, just that I think using 'here' would be better. >the father and son due Duo not due. >What could anymortal do? Missing space between the words. >There’s no way that heis one of Missing space between the words. >someone to do test of Elid already Should be 'someone to test Elid'? Or 'someone to do a test of Elid'? Something similar? >I will build her a shine Shrine not shine. >However was Telaneith Missing comma after 'However'.

Simon

When you say 'considering the circumstances' I'm really looking forward to know more about those. About being lost I did get the feeling that he was either fairly content being lost and/or being lost didn't matter to him much. So that's fine op wise too. You could say that he's strong enough that being lost is no danger at all.

Domagoj Kurmaic

The pond thing is an interesting point. Casually making a mirror does seem like a plausible and neat show of magic. I do think it's entirely reasonable for him to be lost, though, considering the circumstances. He's not all knowing.

Simon

I had fun reading this. I was going to wait until we had more content but I couldn't wait any longer. I had no issues getting into the story pacing wise. I agree I don't really get the vibe of a truly powerful mage from him and really more like a journeyman like it was mentioned in another comment. While you said that you can't do much to show his true power level easily I think what would show it would be him not being concerned by normal issues and limitations. The elemental is pretty good in that regard as well as how easily he built a shelter. The more solutions to pressing concerns of traveling he has the more op he'd seem. Like enchanted bag with lost of stuff. Enchanted water canteen etc. I would have counted Navigation magic among those things but apparently he needs to be lost. For example I was surprised he needed a pond to see what he looked like. I was expecting him to conjure a mirror or watch himself through some sight ability. I realize he is trying to appear weaker than he is and needs to be at the pond but you could always have him not be happy enough with his reflection in the pond and decide to use some spell anyway after confirming nobody is around or something. Anyway I liked what I read and the above is just food for thought.

Domagoj Kurmaic

No. It's a completely different planet/setting. I don't have a good idea for another story in Ersetu at the moment. Nothing that really captures my imagination, in any case. The closest thing to to what you describe is a vague idea of a human expedition sent to the interior of Blantyrre, and it's really just a basic idea at the moment.

Nathan Rice

Just for clarity, Zenith of Sorcery doesn't take place on Ersetu? Considering all the world-building that you put into it, I thought another book would also take place there, accept maybe with different characters and in a different section.

Sterban Friz

Well the planet explosion description befuddles me, but that's just me, I am heavily invested in this and it appears there will be just as much twists and turns as mother of learning

Mikhail Gorodetskiy

> Do you think it works? Does it inspire your interest in the story? Yes and Yes! It really shows exactly how strong and confident Marcus is. He was just out of monster-laden wilderness and he treated this like "I'm really tired" and not "HUMANS! Finally!". He got apocalyptic visions out of nowhere and he was only a little bit unnerved and mostly curious. Sudden Chaos Storm was a minor inconvenience. Really shows how confident he is. Well, he was the key to end the First Academy War. The one thing to make it perfect is to compare his abilities with other mages. Fairy tale talking animal future helper feels unexpected but not out of place. Overall, it's a slow start and yet I want to know what's next without any cliffhangers.

Been following for a while, I like it. Noticed the xianxia influences and personally I like the high fantasy meets industrial revolution style of world more, but you've proven capable of constructing interesting worlds. Compared to mother of learning the start feels smoother and faster. Overall I'll be keeping an eye on this, and am looking forward to excellent worldbuilding and character development I've come to love.

Janders

The pace is to slow for my taste. The chapter can be summarized as; a bit of world building (which is great), he got an apocalyptic vision (OK), and traveled a bit (boring). Not interesting enough to hook me, also, I really don't dig the "op character from start" trope (but this is just personal preference). A couple of points that annoyed me: He lied about being a fifth rank mage, not really meaningful if I don't know the ranks. The worm is introduced too late, an ideal place to his introduction should have been wen he was going to nap at the pond. Overall, your writhing stile makes it a nice read but the contents are a bit dull, maybe a bit more to the point would help.

BramBora

Fair enough, it is too soon for me to write as if I knew where the story will go. I suppose I am mostly commenting on the feel I got from the story in this regard.

Domagoj Kurmaic

I don't intend to go too heavy on the Xianxia influence, so hopefully I fulfill that hope. :) There will be some politics later, though I'm not sure how prominent it will be in the end. The first chapter doesn't seem like a good place to start with that, since this is not primarily a politics-oriented story and it takes some background information for people to become even slightly invested in the political landscape of a story.

BramBora

I like it. Xianxia infuence is noticeable - I hope do not go overboard with it. (Or more precisely I see that Xianxia could become a little too noticible-mostly with academies backstabing eachother often and such) Also, I would say that while it has a hook, it is missing that couple sentences that would give it the right kind of edge. I have to say I kind of hoped you would go more towards interaction with nobles and a bit of politics, not mystic sects.

Zach

I'm interested, it took a little to get into the chapter, but by the end I was ready for the next. Here are a few suggested edits: “First Academy War?” instead of “FirstAcademy War?”, "It was as if the world had lost some crucial part of it," get rid of "of it", What could anymortal do? should have a space between any and mortal.

Zach

While I understand how you are connecting to Pokemon, league is often used in a alliance of states, instead of the sport use.

Very enjoyable read! I appreciate the sort of slow-burn way of revealing Marcus's capabilities. The vision bit was very interesting. I'm super eager to find out more about it. Same goes for the pantheon and general power levels in-story. Not a lot of action, but that's ideal for the very start of what might be a rather long story. I like how we are being eased into the setting and events surrounding it. I think we are off to a really great start! Super excited!

Domagoj Kurmaic

Maybe. After I publish more chapters (for real, not just on patreon), and if the readers show any interest in the worldbuilding of the story.

Andrew Browne

Feedback (trying to log my experience as a reader) First few paragraphs I was confused about the layout of the Great Golden Plain and dark forest. I thought the Great Golden Plain is the thing beyond the end of the road. As I check back to write this I'm only now figuring out that the villages and the road are on the Great Golden Plain, and the desolate area beyond the road is the forrest (I didn't appreciate "Sea of Leaves" until thinking about it now). > However, the quality of his clothes and the staff he was holding made them wary of him When initially reading, I was unsure if this meant he had superior quality clothes, or terrible clothes until a few paragraphs later when silk is mentioned. The vision is the first part that was getting mildly interesting. Chaos Storm (and how animals and people handled it) and the awakened animal, such cool sounding and interesting ideas. This is the point where I'm getting hooked and want more. World building is excellent: - Academy War? Ok, intesting - Silver League? Makes me think of pokemon (gym=academy silver league=indigo league) Also interesting - Chaos storm !?!? cool, very interesting - Awakened Animals cool, very interesting - Chompy :D - Sea of Leaves (after having thought about it and realize what it describes, it wasn't interesting on my initial read)

holothuroid

As for the rest of the chapter, again nothing much happens. Marcus doesn't experience any real conflict. The vision is strange sure, but other than that nothing much happens to him. The text stresses several times that Marcus is not in danger. Like you go out of your way of killing tension. I therefore expected some wham line at the end.

holothuroid

This felt like nothing much happened. I mean Mol starts with such an iconic scene. It's so good it's played to several times in the story. This not so much.

Desidia

Are you going to make a Worldbuilding page for this story too?

I really liked the chapter. Can't wait for more. :)

Christopher Roberts

I thought that he exited the forest into a small kingdom on the edge of the plain was pretty clear. I also thought the implication that when he lied about his rank he was under-reporting it was clear, though that may only have been because you've told us that the story was going to be about an archmage

Domagoj Kurmaic

I see your point, though it's not like Marcus is forced to use his best magic in the chapter. The only real dangers are the vision and the chaos storm, and he can't do anything about either of them. So this is hopefully something that will improve with time - I don't think there is much I can do to convey his real power level right from the start. Especially since Marcus is *trying* to appear less powerful than he really is.

ParadoxFox

> “I guess you already paid someone to do test of Elid already. Bad results, huh?” I guess this means he paid someone to administer Elid's test? A bit confusing since it might be interpreted as paying someone to take the test in Elid's place. Wouldn't the tests be conducted by the Academy itself? Not sure I understand how this works. > “What it is?” Probably meant "What is it?"

One thought is that Marcus doesn't seem to quite put out the vibe of an 'incredibly powerful archmage' (as his character was described in the initial post on this topic). Maybe it's because we're seeing things from his perspective in this chapter and he is very used to his powers, or because mages are just relatively underpowered generally in this setting (or we don't know what a powerful mage looks like in this setting), but the feeling I get as a reader is that Marcus is a competent journeyman mage, not a continental powerhouse.

Doodlyboy15

As I understood he just exited the forest to return to the great plains after a 6 year journey, made sense to me. Thanks for explaining that chompy was the reason he felt safe passing out by a pond, I wanted to know if he had an amulet or spell in place.

Domagoj Kurmaic

I tried to keep the geography as clear as possible, but also didn't mention it much, so I'm not sure it confuses some people. You aren't the only one to express that opinion. I'll see what I can do about that when tinkering with the chapter. The moon is not connected to our discussions, though I can see the resemblance now that you mention it. The origin is that I wanted to have a goddess of magic, spiders, weaving, veils, moon, and fate... and connecting it to the actual moon seemed perfect.

Mr R

The geography was a bit confusing. Is there a forest between him and the Great Golden Plain? Also, I appreciated how you provided some detail on the civilisational progress of the continent as well as some facts about their scientific capabilities. Nicely done. And so many mysteries. Though admittedly the divine vision was a bit suprising, I like the rapid pacing. And I've also got a bunch of conjectures, and I am curious how they will turn out. And there's also an insane moon. Was that something you were thinking about before our discussions?

Domagoj Kurmaic

There is definitely some Xianxia influences on the story, not gonna lie. But not too much, hopefully. I aim for a blend of genres with this, to borrow your term, rather than a straight Xianxia story.

esteban albo

I liked it. I found the vision part confusing because it seemed to come from nowhere, we don't know the character or anything of this world so to give him something like that seems rushed and i didn't understand what was happening. It would have been more logical maybe if he did have this vision in the forest, so that it is his reason to leave it or something. I m looking forward to this new story!

Shawn Liu

Enjoyed the chapter a lot! It's clear how much you've grown as an author just comparing this first chapter with MoL's first chapter XD My one main thought/suggestion for the story however is I hope mc has a clear goal established at some point. I feel like its significantly easier to be invested/engaged in a story when I know the protagonist has an end goal they hope to achieve.

Domagoj Kurmaic

Well, the confusion part at least is entirely intended. So I'm glad I evoked the intended feeling in you when you read it. :)

Nicolai Buch-Andersen

I really liked the (preview) chapter. Looking forward to the rest of the story! Having the MC return home after a prolonged absence is a clever way to let the reader discover the setting along with the protagonist, even though the MC is older and more experienced than the usual orphaned youth. Looking forward to a different kind of MC. At first I got kind of a traditional D&D-ish vibe in how the MC was introduced, his name, him being a mage and so on. But the more I read about the Great Academies and their behavior, the more they sounded like Sects straight out of a Xianxia story. I wonder if that's deliberate or just me projecting my recent reading onto a new story? A blend of the genres could be interesting.

Darker

> It was unhealthy to hold imaginary conversations with yourself No, an internal monologue is a very healthy thing to have; wouldn't trust someone without one. I really like what I've seen so far and am consequently now in anguish at not being able to read the next chapter :Ü™

Matt S.

Thanks for the trial chapter! I like it so far and am eager for more. The only real point of (minor) contention for me would be that I thought the vision was a bit too sudden (apparently literally "deus ex machina" considering it's probably a God's doing) and left me asking for why this is happening (especially since we don't know that it is a vision and that he wasn't portaled to an isekai or something). And it happens first thing after the character is introduced. It makes me ask "why is this happening? what is happening? And why is it happening now in the story?", i.e. a lot of confusion. "Because he is the MC and he needs a plot device to kick off the story" is maybe not a too satisfying answer, or at least not one that is intrisically motivated by the flow of the story, but I'm honestly unsure how to do it differently. I might also be overreacting on this, but you asked for input. :) Minor corrections: a one last look / one last look to east of him / to the east of him ended up with when / ended up when to fine / to find more muddy / more muddied(?) father and son due / father and son duo bothering the scold / bothering to scold The pointed / He pointed

Daniel Häggström

Awesome chapter! I like the characters so far and the worldbuilding looks promising.

Causal Chain

Usually style isnt a big concern, but as this is the first chapter... The first paragraph is not very engaging. This article comes to mind: https://kajsotala.fi/2021/03/open-loops-in-fiction/

Causal Chain

> No, wait… this sound was familiar. He was in the back of a horse-drawn wagon, wasn’t he? “You’re awake,” an unfamiliar voice stated. “I was starting to get worried.” Wasted opportunity to use "Hey, you, you're finally awake"

Domagoj Kurmaic

No. Though it is available for patrons only. I'll charge for the chapter when I post it publicly on RR/Fictionpress.

Domagoj Kurmaic

Yeah, there will definitely be more worldbuilding and explaining how magic works. It will be slightly trickier to put it in since Marcus is a grown man and an expert mage already, but I'm confident I can slot it in naturally. We'll see if my faith in my own abilities is misplaced.

Domagoj Kurmaic

Ha ha, yes, I always leave a ridiculous amount of zeroes in the chapter number. I have grand dreams. Chapter 999 here we come!

Callum

I would prob remove the bit about checking his reflection its very much overused to describe the character. I really like the idea of the advanced mage returning to civilization and things are different.

Dario

Is this a paid post?

DiabolicalGenius

I think it's pretty good as is, so I don't see any need for changes. I'm assuming we'll get more world building as we go along, such as his own past and how magic in the setting actually works? In which case it's a perfectly good way to start the story. I like how Marcus' lack of common sense is on the subtle side rather than being exaggerated. He couldn't figure out how the ordinary folks living close to the place like that forest would react to a strange mage walking out of it as though he was on a regular journey through populated lands. Especially when it's common sense that the forest it extremely dangerous. Same with how regular people would react to something like an earth elemental having been shadowing them the entire time and what it might have done if they unwittingly did something it didn't like. So yeah, it seems interesting. I'm more bothered about how long we might have to wait for the continuation~

Longhaul

I'm very happy to have this chance to read your new book.

I already love it! Even it's first chapter, glimps of magic, politics, nature and society were introduced. The main character is enjoyable, his "won" over Elid in their discussion, his resentment to reveal that he was lost... I like all of it. Something happening in the country, the whole world could be doomed, what else do I need? Thank you!

Andrew Single

Thank you for sharing this. I'm looking forward to the story. I'm also encouraged that you've left space for as many as 999 chapters.

Leaf

Ooh! Will give this a read. Thanks!

IShallRiseAgain

Nice first chapter. If had to give any feedback, I'm not sure if the concept of awakened animals needs to be introduced right away (assuming they are rare), the chapter is already pretty dense with world building/character development. I'm only mentioning it because you asked for feedback though. Also you used "shine" instead of "shrine".

Armo

Nice! I’m looking forward to this! I like the content I see here :)

Very excited to see something new.


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