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Naruto: The Outsider's Resolve: CH_312

🕑 Added 2024-11-01 20:22:13 +0000 UTC

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Corvus

Great chapter. How do they identity from just fingers? DNA? But how do they get other samples to compare against? Do authorities who collect the body and give it to the morgue just let the Bounty Org have a sample? Wouldn't that mean for the authorities that someone from the Bounty office saw who might have killed Ukuri? Wouldn't they want to interrogate? It's hard to believe that this neutrality of the Bounty Org would be so zealously respected. At some point, someone would challenge that.

Focus Armstrong

You're applying modern standards to Takuma's actions. In the world of ninjas, everything is about lies, deceit misdirection and might makes right. In this world there is a department funded by the state to torture and interrogate people. War-crimes are applauded, and the ninjas of the ninja world (ANBU) love the fact he's a drug dealer and crooked cop because he's able to keep it under wraps and is competent. He's a conforming to world and what he had to do to survive and thrive. You also called him "a petty liar and murderer", he's a ninja, that's what they do. Saying he "seeks revenge over any slight" is incorrect, he's only gotten even with Bishop due to him purposefully targeting him and had a chance to restore the reputation of his team. He hasn't gotten taken revenge on his academy bullies, Enomoto, the drill instructor, Iruka. He's also not a "remorseless snake" taking time to retrieve his teammates' ashes from the failed Frost mission. From trying to Rikku alive instead of hunting down Kon, to him hating the fact he killed civilians while targeting the Jonin. He's only got emotional bandwidth for people close to him. Killing Ukuri on this mission to the Leaf village is just business, and their business is death and subterfuge for profit. *(Author also said in the last chapter comments it isn't the leaf that make the hit, but I wouldn't put it past them to do something like this)

Marcin

Dude... would any Shinobi remained in open ? Within confines of easily accesible home ? And i highly doubt a Genin would be considered a competition to anything.

Zip Zilch

He might feel bad, sometimes, but that hasn't stopped him from lying, torturing, and murdering; he is remorseless in that he shows no mercy to enemies and people who have done him no wrong. Also, you have it mixed up in regards to Ms. Ukuri, the bounty target. She didn't betray her teammates or go out and murder Leaf ninja. She didn't even 'betray' the Leaf village. They are the ones who sent a hit squad to murder her, but she won the fight. They tried to kill her because she was taking jobs that in the eyes of the Leaf village were against them. She did this because the Leaf actively took all her work away by offering lower prices to get back at her for not joining with them and to get her out of the ninja business/recruit her. Keep in mind, we don't even know what was so bad about these jobs, just that the Leaf didn't like them. The nobles — the rulers of the country — seemingly had no problem with her. Lastly, Takuma has done a lot of terrible things, what are you talking about? I made a list of things he has done in a comment in this same thread if you want to check it out, just scroll a bit up. The dude has tortured people before he killed them, bombed a resturant with regular people, buried alive wounded and non-combatant ninja (basically a field hospital), killed unarmed prisoners, and so on. Just because the villages do terrible things too doesn't make them not terrible.

Ben.K15

Yes, she did kill a team of Genin that got sent after her, but these are Anbu prospects, who had ample time to study and scout her out. At the end of the day, Takuma has fought or killed half a dozen chunin or more, ambushing a genin with back up is child’s play

Ben.K15

He absolutely is not remorseless, it’s been a massive part of his character, especially with the Jonin bombing(which was morally messed up, but strategically and tactically a phenomenal move) he did rob the samurai family, but did so as non violent as possible, and the that “Fellow leaf ninja” is a missing nin who killed the last team that went against her for competing against her home country. Honestly most of what he has done is fair game and completely within the bounds of the world. The most evil non remorseful thing he did is be a corrupt police who got the hard drugs off the street and replaced them with weed(by all metrics the lesser of the two evils) and in the process set up a task force that will still hunt his ex criminal partner

Jairo Enrique Quevedo

In and out. Just how I like it.

HYP3R

In other words, a Shinobi. This is the logical conclusion of the world Kishimoto has set up, and I am loving the exploration of it. Takuma may be a scumbag at times, but he’s my scumbag, and a very sympathetic character IMO. The only way to be a good person in the Narutoverse is to be a victim or to have plot armor.

Zip Zilch

Going by what was given to Takuma, the Leaf had it out for her before that point. The Leaf wanted her after she got strong enough to be a problem. Afterward, they actively tried to undercut her mission rates. Later is when she started taking missions against the Leaf's interests. Keep in mind, we don't know what exactly she was doing wrong, just that the Leaf saw it as counter to them. It might not have been against the Land of Fire itself, because she was a guest with the nobility, the rulers of the Land, but just against the Leaf. It seems like she was a problem long before she started going against the Leaf, and this was just the excuse they wanted to get rid of her. Ask yourself this, if she didn't go against the Leaf, whatever that means, would the Leaf really let a competent competitor do business in their own land, with their own employers, and take the risk of her getting stronger and/or gaining more followers? She already had the support from at least one noble person, what if she got more.

David

The crime that triggered the bounty was probably not mere competition, but taking jobs against the Leaf specifically.

Marcin

Really ? You think a shinobi knowing how the leaf village works would be overconfident ? Oh well well see

Joan Casado

Fair enough.

Zip Zilch

Let me be more clear then. Takuma has been a drug dealer who used addicts as informants in exchange for giving them more drugs. He has been a crooked cop who used his drug ties to further his own career and help his partner of a drug lord set up a drug monopoly. He has resorted to torture often and been cruel. He has collapsed a cave on dozens of wounded and non-combatant ninja. He has murdered prisoners. He has bombed a resturant with the civilians still inside to kill one Jonin. He has taken a family hostage and robbed them to get a promotion. Finally, he just murdered a woman in her sleep — a fellow Leaf ninja — for the crime of being competition. He didn't even hesitate. Takuma is a petty liar and murderer who seeks revenge over any slight, and in another story, he would be the villain. He is a remorseless snake, in other words, a predator with no mercy.

Joan Casado

I feel like there’s a difference between Takuma killing a target who he has no emotional attachment to and comparing him killing someone he knows and cares for. Takuma helped save the Uchiha Clan and gave up meta knowledge (a pretty damn big advantage) because he came to care about Mikoto. Calling him a remorseless snake seems odd.

Zip Zilch

This killing made me feel nasty and shows what a remorseless snake Takuma has become. The Leaf is scum to do this to their own; even dogs know how to take care of their young; even dogs know how to be loyal.

LOOKOUT

Maybe they were overconfident of their safety or when she had fought the previous team of assassin's she had traps and was sufficiently prepared for them.

Beater

Quick and clean

SunGear

Nice chapter

Marcin

This seems awfully easy for a paranoid ninja that already killed a team of assasins...

Pegysussy

Takuma when he sees the target, "I'm seen enough movies to know where this is going." Immediately breaks fighting trope subversion

ZuuChen

I love how you are trying to develop the characters around Takuma. Tftc

Navdeep Sugandhi

Someone: if you kill a killer the number of killers remain the same. Takuma: simple kill two. Edit: morality aside nice chapter


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