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Chapter 185: The Beaten Path

🕑 Added 2025-08-15 18:51:41 +0000 UTC

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Apotheosis

...you know, he did perceive the trial, wondering if it'll be on the map

dijet

But that's just the thing, a lords strength isn't purely in single combat, they get power from their subjects who can achieve things the lord himself often can't, take for example the class advancement trial, will couldn't have rescued holdna on his own without that tank there to protect her from the miasma. A single person can only do so much but a kingdom is way less limited in its capabilities.

William Farrar

There is a lot of emphasis throughout the story on the fact that his heritage is from a molt and is aspected to regeneration. I keep coming back to this concept as he moves up the tower. He may have to "shed" his tower forged body to cheat his fate. The moment he went into his advancement, descriptions of feeling in two places at once, may further imply the presence of distinct entities, hand and body.

Don

Totally not on board with the whole you need people not personal power bc you need both but more of 1 in a fight and it's not a bunch of extra bodies in the way.

Revilo

Also it sounds like something not being able to be influenced by the tower is a unique property, maybe worth trying regenerate a spare system immune body from just the hand for Will?

Patron1kj6tz

Like Ouroboros eating itself?

Tom C

Yes! Ken Wilber banged on about this, read one of his books decades ago

Frotzy

So, im just puttning this here to say i told you so in a houdred chapters, due to Will needing to die at the 50th floor, and the amount of miasma you have in your body at that level. He will be able to "sourdough" himself, using himself as a consumable.

Win Rar

So he will be able to map out fear since that is now a terrain. William will be able to find anyone who fears him; there is no escape. "Do not fear William Oh, for if you do, he will have you marked on his map to visit you when you least expect it"

EDMANGO

I think I dislike this aspect because then it becomes the beaten path again, if he has a compass showing him exactly where everything or his specific goal is it becomes less his choice and more whatever omniscient systems choice

Charlie

Iirc Will suspects that his immediate predecessor, Exekial the serpent, was involved in punching the holes somehow, while Reese was stuck in the coffin.

Charlie

Yeah, if it's retroactively applied to places he's perceived before getting map, then being able to see some of the top of the tower would be a super neat loophole in the class advancement system.

Patron1kj6tz

As best I can tell the tower and or system (I'm actually a tad curious how intertwined the two are) doesn't want Will to take Map but is unable or unwilling to just not give it to him. This raises a lot of questions. Also Kincaid mentioned that the tower will eventually collapse, am I the only one wondering if the holes in the lower floors are a symptom of the tower reaching the end of its functional life? If not, then whatever caused those holes has probably drastically reduced the towers lifespan by wrecking its structural integrity. I can't shake the feeling that, one way or another, this coil will be the last.

Dlandis

Also, a benefit could be seeing places he has perceived. He may be able to remember the layout of the class upgrade region. And imagine if that also somehow relates to a higher floor where Holdna still lives, shacked up with a great big snake.

Jeff Wells

Yeah that's definitely where this is going. Not that specifically, but building his own abilities and such. Super cool.

Jeff Wells

Yeah it's exactly the kind of thing Ghoul taught him too do, and I totally missed it at first. Sure, a minimap is cool, I don't play Minecraft without it these days, but considering how much Will was able to do with a simple "sure footed" ability, something like Map is potentially insane.

Ano Ano

I'm feeling clever for being the most excited about map at first reading of the list.

Zachary Atwood

Will missed the the biggest thing about Map. Maps *show you how to get to where you want*! With the right upgrades, the Map could be like a quest tracker in an RPG, telling him exactly where to go and who to talk to to progress in his goal.

SunderGoldmane

Ah, he did perceive that terrain. So mow he has a data point that exists somewhere in time and distance away from now and here to orient on.

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

Moon Winchester

When I saw his ability selections, my mind immediately narrowed in on map because everything he does revolves around terrain

Ranger Science

Yessss Loth ftw

Natalie

You know I was thinking something like that too when it mentioned "anywhere you've been" but I was thinking... What if it recognised his past selves as him too? He could see where the previous versions of himself went, and see whether there are any strange sudden cut offs, that would probably be best avoided. Sort of like that Nic Cage movie where he scouted a safe path through by watching where he dies

Natalie

How else do you know if it's been travelled before? If it's not on the map, then it's good to go!

ReadingObsessed

I love how you flip these right on their head. Masterfully done!

Alexis Lionel

Boy, he could have the sum total knowledge of the entire existence of the system... And still lose a bet to Loth the mfing Luminary

Emily Gurnavage

I really enjoyed that one.

McIntosh Ewell

Perhaps if he learns to map out probabilities he'll be able to actually win a bet against Loth

Clairvoyant Vision

I'm pretty sure he's going to get the second phantom hand (or something similar) along with some form of teleportation anyway. In fact this would make for a great Willam Oh'ism.

Munirah Hutchinson

The pterodactyl screech i let out at the meta implications was very unsightly. Well done.

Bananaman Slamma

Right lol. I need me that remote from Adam Sandler’s hit blockbuster film, Click, wherein there is a fast forward button which the protagonist, portrayed by Adam Sandler, uses to quickly bypass much of his own life - to get to the good parts. Little does he know that life is about the journey, and not the destination. He finds this out the hard way when he fast forward so much he becomes old. Quite similar to that one movie where there is a beach that turns you old.

Redc05

This was a fun chapter. When is the next one? XD

RedInkQuill

Wills progression choices map out a path to travel the world beyond the tower.

Imp

William Oh's missing hand has truly become the greatest relic within the tower

Arnon Parenti

Lol if the map is of Terrain William OH Percieved, then someone telling him about a place could be enough to add it to his map, including Reese and his 50th floor nonsense.

Arnon Parenti

If Map is a tool then William OH receives bonuses to tools, Meta Relic use, hardiness, and mobility, with a focus in Earth and Spacetime for it. The whole Class is geared to make this one ability stronger.

Exrotes

Once he can affect the floors via maps I bet he could manifest a map of the 11th and 4th floor and poke a hole in the top one, instant highway between floors. Maybe make a "map" of the tower by piling completed maps of floors on top of eachother then rearrange them. I bet a similarly buffed ability was how the existing inter-floor highway got made.

Arnon Parenti

William OH can find his asshole with a map.

Andrew

Thank you!

Prinny Knight

noice, -insight +1

Josiah

So those primaries aren't going to come back as options for secondaries or tertiaries? (Besides the two upgrade ones, obviously those two weren't coming back)

Crispined Glover Potato Snacks

"For William Oh, The Map is The Territory." Reference to the phrase The Map is Not The Territory, a phrase used in semantic philosophy to describe that the model abstracted from an object is not the object itself.

vVip3rzzz

“They say William Oh drew his own map to the ass kicking the gods had coming. Personally, I think the map drew William Oh first.”

Metool

Map would let him project his class advancement. At least where it happened in relation to himself.

JTP

I will have some meta magic, thank you very much!

EDMANGO

I wanna know if he can map the location he visited during his trial... And also I wanna know how many of the other climbers in that trial were oroborous spawn too!!!!

Vinohr

Interesting that stepping off the beaten path in this instance involves finding a map

Stanisław Drewienkowski

William Oh, who was scorned by Granesh and denied access to the map of gods, decided to make one of his own. God of order couldn’t have anticipated that map made by William Oh would be greater than original, allowing him to reshape world to his will, and throw it into chaos.

vVip3rzzz

The second I saw map I was like oh I can see some fuckery with this because it was both simple and extremely vague. It’s always the vague abilities that be broken. Then again though double phantom hands does seem broke as all hell, but clearly map is the better option. It’s interesting to see that Will’s “build” is now branched into two kind of definitive sections. He’s got his short term power house build and his long term possibly “god level” build. It’s interesting because I imagine it’ll curve his power a bit for now and bring him down from the sheer Demi god status to keep the stories and stakes interesting. But best believe William Oh is on a scale and that scale in exponential :)

Doggo

some days i hope for a chapter and it comes out and when it does i feel like an oracle

Daemion

Yeah, no matter what he takes, it would end up broken and OP in the end... but only the map seems like an ability that gives him something no one else has. A basilisk's gaze is neat, but there are probably lots of monsters with such an ability around, so countermeasures exist. I've always been a fan of making "useless" or "weak" abilities work, be it in games or in stories. I hope Will is correct in his choice and will survive this coil.

Nyroe

William Oh something something map something something final destination.

Not_You

I love power being a trap. Information build!

Jake Malony

Nah this chapter was perfect. We/He knows they've been tried. Map is perfect. And very exciting.

Macronomicon

might be confusing it with another of mine. Most of my protagonists seek to make their own way through the world of magic, so i think i've had this particular theme/line of thinking more than once.

Hell 5pawn

Map's perfect. I like the reasoning. Edit: I goggled at the possibility of a mini-map because my gamer side squees in delight at what I consider a necessity.

Tom C

I’m getting deja vu… did he encounter this before and it was retconned out cos it was too powerful? Or am I just confusing another story with this one (it happens!) TFTC!

Ford-Thomas Frank Loveland

Deal lord that is gonna end up broken

Macronomicon

Bit short, sorry, but hopefully his justifications for passing on all those crazy-good Abilities are reasonable


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