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Chapter 190: 10th Floor

🕑 Added 2025-08-27 17:33:58 +0000 UTC

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Antony Claughton

will manage to make my kill myself before I consult the Map. ==> will manage to make me kill myself before I consult the Map.

CoveringStorm

On this, the rotwitch got her abilities from something. Even if the monster isn’t at potent as her, or she amalgamated multiple rot based sacrifices. There are probably some nasty monsters on the upper floors which could endanger the whole horde of baker girls

Chris C

Stronghold became became a hive of shouting-double word

Patron1kj6tz

If this question was ever answered I either didn't see it or forgot it. What is the limit on Brianna's growth? As I understand she can spend 1 Charge to make a PERMANENT copy that has it's own pool of Charge (that starts empty) and can make copies of it's own. The one limit I can think of is food/water supply, but there has to be some relic, ability, or upgrade combo she could get that removes the need for food and or water. *Cue morbid thought* If the extra bodies don't vanish on death then her infinite growth would only be limited by a need for water. I understand that if she did flood the tower all it would take is a single touch from the Rotwitch or some mass usage of abilities that spreads across her bodies to stop her in her tracks, but whats stopping her from just making an endless horde?

Macronomicon

It only grows by like..a cubic inch per Acuity. I remember calculating that a bare-bones 6 foot staff with no bells and whistles was somewhere around 200 cubic centimeters. Of course his kit improvese this, but not by a lot. A whole person might be too much even with all his boosting kit on. I'm not sure, haven't done the math on that yet.

RedeyeA

It would also be an allusion to Odin sacrificing his eye for knowledge.

RedeyeA

I think that to get his map to show miasmatic effects, William will sacrifice one of his eyes. It seems like different body parts can have different effects when sacrificed especially when a climber had an ability in that area. The uru drake eye ability will let his eye become a sacrifice showing miasmatic and dimensional effects on the map. This will probably have the benefit of returning normal sight to one of his eyes, but it would no longer be enhanced by acuity. William would then have a sacrificed eye to go along with phantom eye just like his hand and phantom hand.

Tom C

I believe this was alluded to last chapter when the guy that died trying to kill Will mentioned that Caddock had helped him reach level 50? So from this I figured he had put out an offer to help and loads of climbers accepted. Everyone wants power, many regardless of where it comes from. But that’s all guesswork I suppose

Timur Ibraev

I don't understand how Caddock was able to collect an army. He is a runaway criminal with all runaway criminals from church. He is no less hated by the church than Will. In addition he had no time to pass civilians from lower floors. Even if he secretly made a bargain with a young lord, he has a gung of troublemakers with bountiees on their had. A small high level team, collected thanks to his connections is more possible, but still. The church clearly would favor killing Caddock over Will

Mrfacemanlol

Caddocks not a tank he’s a paladin aka fighter/minor healer and the system would probably recognize that will did no damage to the stronghold so the buff probably wouldn’t work against him

Exrotes

Crazy Idea, Caddock is a tank and basically every good tank we see has some kind of ability to protect targets. So what if he has some kind of vengeance style upgrade that lets him power up off his target getting killed/destroyed scaling based on their value. You gotta assume that any of the ones that want to be more than a damage sponge would grab something for that especially in case the enemy can circumvent the protection effect. Build a System recognized Stronghold, designate it as his charge, then burn it down so when Will comes a running he gets to fight a guy that could punch the metal slime to death. System wouldn't even count it as an exploit because of the resources and effort needed to build a legitimate Stronghold.

Mrfacemanlol

I missed it last chapter but when/how did caddock figure out what the “loth the luminary” and “the kobold mascot were the same” my best guess would be that he figured it out in Akul from something the baron said. If that is the case it would be funny to see Caddocks party reactions to finding that out

Nate Hada

Does phantom hand’s size/storage grow as Will grows? Has he tried yoinking a living being yet if he overpowers their resistance?

Nate Hada

He just has to spend a week slowly building up size. I wonder how high his hand will get after a week of flying straight up.

Ano Ano

So now Will can use the "manifest physical copy" feature of his map to create a perfect replica of himself. Presumably will be used as a funny decoy at some point, but I wonder if he'll take it further. Sure the map is not the territory, but when you are dealing with a ton of magic, that kind of shit can get wonky.

Gorane

I think you forgot to have Will use his secondary upgrade slot, as you know he gets that at lvl 50 as well. If it was on purpose that you didnt have him spend this on some valuable extra upgrade or new skill, then you should have Will give us a reason at least

Alan Ben Sen Clem

It doesn't really make sense, Caddock's god is more or less righteous and wouldn't give him any benefit for sacrificing a bunch of believers storywise. It would also be kind of fucked if the Tower gave mass-murderers more power since it seems to be actively helping Climbers. I'm more inclined to believe that this is a strategy to attract or distract WO. They can't be used as untouchable meatshields because WO knows they're civilians of the church of Granesh, but they still are level 30-40 something Climbers.

Ethan Barrow

TFTC!! Can't wait to see the paladin die in anger knowing he was only a foot note in William Oh's tale.

Patron1kj6tz

Will cut his hand of slightly below the previous cut-off point. Unless I misunderstand, this means he sacrificed an un-enhanced hand connected to a sliver of enhanced flesh. This also means that Will's weak spot just got slightly larger, even if only by a few millimeters. If Will cut the other way so that no enhanced flesh came off and the end of his new stuff was still squishy it should still work as a sacrifice due to his heritage but does it work better if it has at least a sliver of Class in it? The difference between sacrificing a (for lack of better term) 'civilian half-monster' and an advanced climber?

Josiah

So has it been a week since he slotted the Cursed Scythe and the Lightning Hands? Or are we just gonna conveniently sweep that one under the rug?

Trey

What are June’s abilities again? I still think of her as the archer who helps lead groups of Will’s but can’t really remember what makes her loadout all that special.

Cyrus McEnnis

So my question is - Will's not wearing his set. I know the implication from a few chapters back is it's being stored in a chest, but wouldn't it be better to be worn by a member of his party? And if so - who? June would be my pick, mainly because from a narrative perspective she's been under used and from a practical one I don't think Craddock would plan for it _and_ I can see some interesting synergies with her abilities.

Hell 5pawn

"William Oh got a lord of the tower to burn his own fortress down, because they knew He would win."

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

Mondred

For theory crafting about caddock he is gonna sacrifice a bunch of ppl to his god or something and become said gods avatar for limited time, he is gonna be a sapient raid boss with an army.

Tsorov

I think he just burned his stronghold down so that even if Will won, Caddock wouldn't have done anything for him. It is just sheer pettiness, on a level that only a fanatic would chase.

Tsorov

I agree with most of your points. The only thing I "disagree" with you is, that as far as we know the hand slot was taken by the tower, together with his hand. That strengthens your fist points, but it also makes it impossible for him to wear gauntlets, since their effect only activates if he wears them in pairs. That's why he liked his one handed bow gauntlet thingy, because he could use it with one hand.

Jordan Leighton

Resacrificed looks fake even tho it makes sense lmao

Gardor

I have more annoying hand mechanic questions, my favorite type of questions. "It took longer than he’d hoped due to his Resistance" Does his hand HAVE resistance? Does it benefit from his stats at all? I thought the systems whole deal was "i recognize that you have regrown your hand, but given its a stupid ass hand i have elected to ignore it.". That quote chosen just to paraphrase Sam Jackson, i dont think the system recognizes Will's hand at all. Hence why its not growing with the rest of his body. This leads to a slightly more important question: can he sacrifice a hand he doesnt have to the tower? This all started cuz he sacrificed his hand and the tower plays for keeps, why would the pale imitation of a hand that the tower doesnt even recognize as part of his body function as a sacrifice. Also, and this is only technically a hand question, but...cant he just wear gauntlets? Its weird for people not to be wearing hand armor. Gauntlets are part of a set, wear one on the right hand and strap one to the left wrist, i feel like they should both grow together. Boom no exposed tiny hand. Most of this is brought on by my bedrock certainty that the tower didnt recognize his hand as his hand when he first regrew it, and thats why its weak and susceptible to miasma. I think theres a lot of evidence to support this belief of mine, but then this stuff keeps happening that makes me reconsider. Like him having a hand in his advancement vision quest.

Sce7tm

I'm pretty sure the original wand was sacrificed to the phantom hand. The one Loth has is a summoned copy from the Kinkaid upgrade, so should count as one of Wills abilities. I think that why it shows on the map.

Trey

Theory time! I think Caddock is going to try to turn himself into the Ghoul of this floor. He’s gonna get turned into a similar miniboss to Ghoul somehow. Maybe that smoke is to hide undead miasma, maybe it’s to hide the glow of magic, or maybe it’s just a side effect of him killing all the citizens in the Stronghold. I think he might need to prove himself to be a threat to the tower and that’s why he’s killing them all.

RedInkQuill

Will hands himself a map and sets up a plan for a Caddock wrap.

Roman

I assume he wants Will to come to them instead of them having to chase Will to a different location

Roman

So the Wand wouldn't count as belonging to Loth until she *disarms* Will

Schuh

Maybe blame Will for the destruction and use the peoples fear/anger in some way.

McIntosh Ewell

You have my bow And my shield And my piercing deadly eyes My harem full of lifelike illusions 👀An endless number of nigh indestructible real life baker girls😝 (here Travis starts crying) You've got stories that'll outlive the Tower Bugs and traps. Who could ask for more? Let's make 10 feel like a thousand

Andrew

Thank you!

Emily Gurnavage

Does anyone get why Caddock's plan involves burning down his new Stronghold? Im not connectin any dots there, if we even have any proper hints to go off of for that. Should be an exciting fight though. I like Caddock as a recurring "villain", but I wonder if he will die this time.

ParadoxicalSalad

Curious if we will see what kind of result sacrificing Will's hand would do for Jason's abilities now that we know it can be resacrificed.

Bunny Waffles

I will admit, I am thoroughly confused as to why Caddock seems to be blowing up his own base.


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