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Chapter 244: 4-D Landmarks

🕑 Added 2024-01-22 18:58:36 +0000 UTC

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Nicholas Grey

This is causal chain cherry-picking. You see it a lot in arguments between spouses, and historians. You decide beforehand who you want to be responsible, then go up the causal chain until you find a link that blames them, and you declare that THIS was the critical initiating event, and thus the person you selected is magically responsible for everything.

Bladehawk256

That's the thing, they exist in a reality where they both saved everyone and not just to have this chapter. There is an infinite amount of landmarks both being created and stopping to exist at the same time from their point of view.

Nathan Quitugua

So they COULD save everyone if they REALLY wanted to, but they want the GPS point more

雨宿りAma yadori

As I understand it, the sound is unimportant. What is important is the knowledge it conveys, intent to act, and the capability to follow through. Jocelyn knows what is going to happen, but has no intention of stopping it because the way she got there was "something big" is going to happen. After she mentioned the asteroid's death toll Perry decided to stop the "something big" which became "something else big" that Jocelyn followed so that there was no paradox from removing Jocelyn's entire method of arriving.

Hayden Leech

Straight mass right to energy.

Carl Mason

Is that conversion accounting for fusibility of materials? Or is that just straight mass?

Carl Mason

The bird was not composed of light. It didn't release an antimatter explosion as it died. The circumstances are quite different. Maybe he could reuse some of it and alter the rest. It probably can be done, whether he is able to do it without being caught or destroying himself in the act is unlikely.

Mundane

Obviously story comes first always <3 I am very excited for the wild ride ahead of us.

Macronomicon

mostly because we've still gotta keep things 3-D for the audience, and at a certain level of technical accuracy, things are no longer narratively satisfying in any way. ....And because I'm not that smart.

Hayden Leech

If you convert a persons mass into energy via e=mc2 it’s definitely not a large enough explosion to make lightyears of annihilation. Make earth uninhabitable? Yeah. Shatter it into debris? Eh, maybe. A straight matter to energy conversion wouldn’t be THAT devastating. Still bad tho. Now if he just flew through the planet at top speed. Well… that’s the planet.

Mundane

Why are vibrations in the air the start of the casual chain that collapses a timeline? To be close enough for the sound to reach our protagonist's ears the speaker had to move close enough. So the moment they decided to move close to him should be the start of the casual chain. Except you can just keep going back in time endlessly to find the start of the casual chain. Really how does a multi dimensional multi time stream entity even "decide" on anything. If they exist everywhere and everywhen there is no causality. The only way I can resolve this is the speech does not matter, what matters is the dimensional being choosing, outside of our dimensions and timeline, to collapse a specific probability wave in this dimension that just so happens to coincide with the speech to make things nice on the single dimensional beings. I look forward to seeing how our hero lives while still enabling the epic surf trip.

STORRM

it sounds like Solaris whole body is pure energy, would probably destroy the world even if he spent the next 6 months doing nothing before having brain death, really depending on how much energy were talking about if hes packing a supernova even if he fly's away from earth the AOE would still wipe life for lightyears

Charlie

Maybe I'm just as confused as everyone else, but I think it could help to elaborate on exactly how it's possible Perry has agency to stop everyone dying, if Perry knowing how to stop it causes a paradox for the travellers. How does Perry have any hope at all without using some outright manipulation of time? Is it just a 'strong possibility' of their deaths that makes it a landmark?

DerpNugget

Everyone dieing in 6 months? Solaris becoming more unstable by the min… That must be a red herring… surely right? Our favourite Sun wouldn’t just up and decide to kill everyone, would he?

nugitoBambino

i do find it humorous that for this arc Perry will need a literal Paradox. *taps nose while winking*

nugitoBambino

and the same person totally capable of fixing him or giving him the tools to do so

Findell

Naw he has all that equipment he made for the ascendet bird thing that should work on solaris.

RainbowCatTopHat

Honestly that's one of my favorite parts of your stories, the willingness to write something so completely insane, but then have it make complete sense in context. I quite enjoy how utterly confusing out of context quotes from this story are to people who haven't read it.

Hayden Leech

I guess it goes back further. Dave never would’ve given Perry the van if he didn’t feel bad for tearing into Perry about losing his virginity. So when you get to the heart of it. ALL of this happened because Perry couldn’t keep it in his pants. Hope it was worth it NATALIE!

TS

Ooooh. Oooooooh!!! Thank you ...

TS

Man, that was as confusing as hell and hellishly well written. Nice work!

Doodlyboy15

Wait do I enjoy that part of the chapter?

Doodlyboy15

Fun stuff, I like how you basically set the rules for time travel here and stuff while still giving yourself wiggle room. Love it, thanks!

Wolven

That and more emotional. He has acted pretty rashly in the past couple appearances like when he killed the person who did it

Carl Mason

Except he couldn't, well, probably couldn't, magic is weird. It was covered in this chapter that his bio-material is unstable and likely to explosively decompress from matter to photons if removed from his person. The DNA hack that started this mess was from non-Solaris DNA found in his old van. That is the only reason it still existed to be used like this in the first place.

mhaj58

Why didn’t Solaris confide in Perry? Is he insecure or mistrusting? After Perry defeated Replica and rallied himself back from the brink he should have been Solaris first choice for fixing or killing himself. Is the disease making him more paranoid?

Paratus

My side bet is that Perry going exponential is the cause of the tide in the first place once he starts breaking into 4D land and that'll be how Macro ends it. Epilogue: "Suddenly Perry realized he was thinking too hard and stopped, and the tide went away". =P

Andrew

Thank you!

axel jensen

so solaris is degenerating really quickly, that's not good

Hayden Leech

Sad thing is this goes back to Perry. Perry crippled Scrape who stole the van that Dave the Unicorn gave Perry who didn’t know it once belonged to Solaris and found his blood while looking for Perry’s. If Perry didn’t go to the gym after killing Neuron this would never have happened. Oof.

Phnglui mglw'nafh R'lyeh

So bets on Perry going exponential to stop the calamity and in doing so destroys the world unwillingly? Jocelyn being the one to set this in motion as she wants Perry to become an Eldritch being instead of "just" an unspeakably powerful but human archmage.

EDMANGO

I mean Perry *CAN* capture hard-light adjacent things, like the monster affecting Manita, so maybe he can grab a photon from Solaris and use that... somehow...

TimeDrawsNigh

My brain feels like it just got mushed then stretched and put back together.

Macronomicon

the concept of time travel and four dimensional movement just tickles my fancy so i forced you guys along for the ride.

Ungrave

I feel like that's a surprisingly relatable thing to do, that enlightening potential conversation that didn't happen thing.

Findell

I wonder if perry will steal something like a hair or some skin cells from solaris and figure out and cure his problem without him knowing.

Paratus

"Besides, I don’t have to wait long, since everyone’s gonna die in the next six months or so anyway,” lol


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