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Chapter 52: build Theorizing

🕑 Added 2024-09-27 18:24:13 +0000 UTC

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Ariel

Gods I love Loth. I really want them to somehow end up together!!!!

Ben B

Replacing a sacrificed relic with a new one causes a week cooldown. Doesn’t happen when filling an empty slot though. Meanwhile one finger turned black for the one day cooldown for swapping off that relic finger.

Spoolofwhool

I'm confused how the one week inactive works when sacrificing an item into a slot works. The wording to me seems to imply that add a new item to phantom hand means it can't be used for a week. This is pretty bad for testing purposes, but isn't shown to be the case given that William could use the hoarfrost sickle power immediately. Or would it only apply when a slot is overwritten and not when it's initially filled?

Malcolm Haynes

No. Both would have mentioned that for sure if he was dead.

Doctor Zero

What happened to the bad guys? Did Mark die?

CherMi

He should find an enormous spatial storage and sacrifice it to his hand. Then it will be a secure vault for stockpiling relics and even he would require at least a day to access it for his primary combat slot to become available again after.

Stephen E Wilson Jr.

Agreed. (That loth will evolve into a dragon woman) Loth gets what she wants and shifting her evolution path to achieve many goals with a single trap is very Loth.

gabriel hutcherson

Loth=best girl

Gaunt

Would like to get the explination for the headpats in kobold society but would love to see Loth be more physically affectionate going further. Normalise the contact, any barrier can be worn down if determined enough

zero

good job Loth, that one's always hard

Nechochwen

I would argue that this is an issue of a (copyright friendly little-person-with-harry-feet) being given a (copyright friendy laser-sword). I personally am excited to see the power levels of the actual threats of this world, especially considering the implied levels of his parents, and all the hidden masters around him growing up. Also want to see him eventually get an ability to tap into his legend, maybe... Aspect of the G.O.A.T.?

Jimmy Oneil

Kobold love ❤️

Ryan Naquin

So is Mark Wyrd dead? What about the group of mercs? I dont need a detailed accounting but some closure would be nice.

chris

Sniper: ring of accuracy. Melee: extendible rod. A rod that extends relative to a climbers stats. With Will, extendo-tomahawk. Debuffer: the grossest shofar. A horn that when blown through does a large aoe attack that causes nausea and vertigo and damage to all who hear it. Additionally make a disgusting and funny noise. With Will it syncs with his tomahawks sonic-psychic attack. Tank: bouncy ball mace. A stick with a spiky ball made of a rubber like material at the top. When equipped all damage is slightly reduced relative to stats and returned to the attacker. With Will his body becomes more bendy and bouncy and all attacks against him have the same effect. Nuker: barbed lasso. A lasso rope coated in sharp barbs. When equipped all attacks do additional slicing damage and can be used to encircle a group of enemies and rapidly tighten slicing and damaging enemies. With Will all attacks have additional slicing damage and, and centered on the phantom hand Will can produce a cage of barbed rope around a group of enemies englobing then rapidly shrinking, cutting and damaging the whole time. Warning, crushing lesser enemies can render them a soup like homogenate. Experimental: shield of selfishness: when equipped you can redirect attacks aimed at others toward yourself thereby defending your allies and frustrating your opponents. With Will allows him to draw attacks aimed at others a lead those attacks rapidly around behind him. Synergizes with snipers and nukers very well.

Jeff Wells

Why not? You still needed 100 relics to gain the effect, and they would have to ferment for a long ass time. That seems like a fair trade off. Even right now Oh would be wasting his time doing it that way, rather than finding more potent relics to sacrifice. Also the really unique and powerful effect types are going to come from higher level creatures anyway. For example I doubt lifesteal effects at any % appear on floor 1, and if they do they'll be extremely rare.

Jeff Wells

That's why he had to test it out. He didn't know if the hoarfrost effect would be "lost" because it applies to a non-existent sickle, if it becomes borderline useless because it applies to a phantom hand that can't interact with physical objects, or if he gets a powerful upgrade to his existing abilities because it applies to any attack he makes. This makes sense to me, because this is the same kind of effect as the sting ring, which applied to any attacks he made, including launching pebbles out of phantom storage.

Jackson Andrews

i’m struggling a bit with this story in a way i usually don’t with macros stories. i can’t tell if it’s the power system or just the plot so far. but i can’t help but feel that other than wills initial struggle in this story, will is getting stronger, more, better, and faster then it feels like he earned. i know that these stories are all power fantasies. but it still feels less earned than other stories even ones that went to fast like ravager. i’m still interested, just less than i have been…

Cyrus McEnnis

Of course, Will is going to need a way to swap between gear sets to truly synergise his builds at the drop of a Goat Mask. Might well be worth burning a relic slot on to have a permanent wardrobe available - assuming, naturally, that he won't get a Phantom Closet ability somewhere down the line

God

Pretty sure he is gonna get the healer stuff from the immortal serpernt. Something like giving his blood to allies. Plus he already can do some of that stuff with sourdough.

Quex

Loth really is the best.

Joshua Gunty

*Pepe Silviloth written a hundred times in increasingly jagged script*

Thomas Issa

He already has the self healing through lifesteal He does need a way to get rid of debuffs though Also, because any damage he does transmits the debuff and with high enough Acu possibly making immobility 100% He should not keep the sickle active in melee because stuff like skinning his knees or the impact of charge attacks will immobilise himself for a while Whereas completely stopping every enemy he hits will make him an extremely effective debuffing sniper

Domy

Well kobolds are said to be the descendants of dragons, dragons are beings of great magical might, great magical might means shapeshifting, ergo, Loth will become a hot dragon lady. DON’T TOUCH THE RED STRING. Just look at the conspiracy board. It all makes sense.

Thomas Issa

He can store 5 relics in his hand now as possible equipped relics with only 1 active at a time He made the sickle active so anyone damaged by him gets the debuff, so now he can inflict the ailment whenever he does damage So when he hurts himself he will give himself the ailment But also anyone he damages with his Tomohawk or hand bullets or anything else, like using his fist

Andrew Tobin

If it was lord level, I suppose there’s no reason not to do that. He’d need 180 degrees all up, so it’d be across what length of distance, but he’d need to get the reflect ability and once he had that he’d barely need any correction (if it was already turned back). The easiest nerf is to have each additional +1 to cost more, so it’s exponentially expensive. That said, a character finding an exploit is kind of a thing.

Sanairb

Balance? This is a Macronomicon story. What's this "balance" you speak of? The only balance is if it's awesome or not.

Cyrus McEnnis

Typically, Kobold genitals are used as decoration once plucked from the smoking corpse of their foe.

mmarkgraf212

He won't need to worry if he makes it past all the other floors that have already been explored.

kfir with a כ

Only the abilities stay, so he doesn't summon a ghost sickle, but he still summons frost on those he damages.

Akkido

Yeah. I imagine that a higher version of a boost would just replace the lower version, so adding a +1 to acuity relic and then adding a +2 to acuity relic would end up with it just having a +2 to acuity. As the higher stat would take priority.

Cyrus McEnnis

All his attacks gain Hoarfrost. Sling Bullets, Tomahawk, Rusty Butter Knife, Harsh Language. Any offensive action gains that ability. Just a _tad_ broken, but then again this is William Oh we're talking about.

Karma

Can someone explain the absorption thing? His phantom hand absorbed the sickle, but his tomahawk has the hoarfrost ability?

EDMANGO

Im team lolliam? Wilth? (Ship names are hard) Whatever for the long haul. Tho he'll probably end up with the baker girl in the end unless whoever he ends up with beats the sense he should try dating Loth into him (I hope)

Cyrus McEnnis

Let's talk possible builds. Will has a sniper/repositioner build with the Ring of Accuracy. The slower/debuffer role has yet to be built into a build proper, but given the AOE on his tomahawk I suspect that's gonna be a melee role of some description because AOE slow is _insane_. An off-tank role is gonna need some "look at me" relics. Nuker - in all honesty he can do that with most of his builds by adding a ranged AOE ability. But assuming he specialises each slot that's sniper, melee debuffer, durability tank, and nuker, leaving 1 slot for experimentation. He'd be well advised to use a slot as an ally buffer role, as buffing Loth's minions would have incredibly synergistic effects. Call it "Pocket Bard". Then really the only role left that Will "Party of One" Oh needs to fill out his roster is that of Healer - and if he drops Nuker to a modifier of his other roles, he could squeak that in.

austin kutz

So, kobold genitals. They're lizard adjacent, so they have a cloaca, right? Or since this is fantasy land, do they have something else?

Exrotes

From a balance standpoint I'm thinking the relic merging is gonna be a massive loss in effectiveness so Will can't do something like buy a couple hundred low level items that grant 1-2 degrees of correction then grind them into dust and use them all to give +99 degrees of correction to a Relic that deflects enemy projectiles so it mirrors them directly back at the attacker.

Andrew

Thank you!

Joshua Gunty

Aww, poor Loth, I was almost sure William wasn't going to care about appearances.

Cyrus McEnnis

Quick note - Will's at full charge after releasing and reabsorbing Wyrd's relics? We've had it implied already that a "bunch" of things can be stored with one charge (sling bullets), but even then wouldn't it cost one charge to store the relics again? And yikes that's a cornerstone ability now. Will's flexibility is gonna be insane.

1234

Thank you for the chapter! Btw, wasn't will supposed to gain another secondary ability in level 20?

Exrotes

I wonder how many floors it will take for Will to realize that being a Lord somewhere that isn't already claimed will involve sitting in a random hut in some horrible grotto where anyone with less than 50 resistance will drop dead within a week and the value in the claim will be some horrible natural resource that synergizes with Sourdough to make him rich.


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