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Chapter 85: Spoils of War Pt. 2

🕑 Added 2024-12-18 18:33:08 +0000 UTC

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Golden monkey

What does total freedom do again?

JACOB HEBERT

If the Tangled are meant to be cheap, what kind of Sacrifices do they take, and in what order? Being able to split themselves would afford rarer materials, but they still wouldn't be too expensive since each Tangled only has certain amount of clones at each level....right?

Misery

Can other intelligent races become Lords? Would be interesting to see that human infighting has killed most of their Lords, but higher up the tower other sentient races have a bunch of Lords, lol.

Nicolas Symeou

Queue "shiny" from Moana

Nate Oppy

“To be a member of Williams Ohs party is to be accepted into a newborn pantheon of budding gods.” Jason

chris

A good story gets the creative juices flowing, ya know.

Macronomicon

damn, that's pretty elaborate, and i like damn near all of it!

Dlandis

Loving the the Jean aspect of the story. Poor kid. Thanks for the timely chapter it was quite a nice thing to end my day with as I just finished ISM book one audible. They nailed the voices I already had in mind though Solaris was a bit more stern and gruff than I had pictured. Kinda had him as a Mafia adjacent for some reason. Like the non-italian extras in an old detective or sleuth type show. Loved it though.

chris

Updating my theory about Will's heritage: he isn't the however many generations grandson of Oroborus & Holdna. He is Oroborus. When Granesh Smote Oroborus he split it into many disparate parts, which we know include the Immortal Serpent, Axolotl, and Hydra, the most important part is Will. Initially born as a normalish human when O dies he reconstitutes as a baby. The last most successful iteration was Ezekyal. In order to facilitate this O built a cult of which members include Will's "Parents" and Gertrude. The "parents' job is to explain to O why he gains a high level sacrifice to give him a head start. Gertrude isn't a true nun of Granesh, but instead a true believer in O. Her job in the cult is to raise O into a good and capable person. Either the cult can't tell O any of this because it will harm his development in some way, possibly his memories will meld activating a permanent overlapping flashback like when Will fought Carrie. This is similar to Brianna's inability to hold her emotions at the same time, a coping mechanism to having too much happen to a climber that their body or mind can handle. The cult might also have been decimated by Granesh Crusaders like the one Will fought at the tourney. When O has a sufficient amount of his scattered parts, he can regain his divinity and once again be with his beloved Holdna, and kill that jealous racist prick Granesh.

The Human

But the clones who now have 176 strength can likewise create 3 clones per day

Jeff Wells

Neither the bonus nor the initial stats are based on the number of summoned, so no. They all have 160 strength because that's the strength Brianna has. They all get 176 with the 10% bonus. The only time that changes is when she levels and gets 5 (now 5.5) more strength, they all get more strength.

chris

I was re-reading and Will's speculation about loopholes and I think it connects to what Baron Akul had mused about in an earlier chapter that there are less Lords than ever before and things are getting harder than ever for climbers. I think The Tower wants to be climbed, and have as many lords as possible distributed across all of the floors. Their is some thing important about every floor having a lord. The requirements for lordship are just the minimum requirements to gain the trust from whatever intelligence that regulates the tower that you are strong enough to help regulate the tower. Now that there are less lords the Intelligence is less able to regulate the monster spawn rate and difficulty cap.

Enzo Elacqua

Honestly hit the main changes to the builds, and then just do a stat screen of the party to summarize. I like loot, but keeping track of all of this in my head will quickly get overwhelming. Maybe actually just briefly describe their new battle style instead. Something like Alicia can now selectively poison people through her arrows and vision, with some minor ability to triple her speed wherever her poison is. Sure there’s probs a bunch more to her build but I can place her archetype better that way without getting overwhelmed to the point of skimming.

Uroš

> Feedback Shielding leaves a residue that permeates the user’s tissues. So... he's turning into a pearl?

Ramapriya Rangaraju

at the very least you'd want "ex unum" because in the same way that english "a" becomes "an" before a vowel, latin "e" becomes "ex", (or rather, "ex" can't be shortened to "e") and makes it sound really weird otherwise

Emily Gurnavage

I think I agree with the sentiments that a sort of "part 3" could also just be the next fight having a bit more descriptions and explanations than usual to help show off the new builds mid-combat. Honestly how you ended this one could tie-into a chapter like that smoothly. Alicia wants to test her new soft set and needs actual enemies. So the next chapter could start just brushing over that everyone else was just as excited as her so they finalized their changes and headed out to test. We dont neeeeeed to see all that finalization. To be clear though I love these build discussion and loot sorting chapters. Whatever feels natural to write next is the real answer though. Edit: Maybe next time theres an in-depth gear changeup you can focus on the chars that potentially get missed this time and keep alternating a bit? Since the party is growing.

Emily Gurnavage

I thought the mask got destroyed?

Emily Gurnavage

Hmm. The current way *sounds* better in my opinion, but when you translate them both to English, yours does sound like a better fit. But the latin version doesn't feel as cool as the original. Hmmmmmmmm lol.

Ramapriya Rangaraju

I know you wanted to mirror the motto on the US seal for the Tangled's abilities, but unfortunately it now just sounds like latin gibberish - the "correct" way to reverse that would be something like "ex uno plures"

Andrew

Thank you!

Daniel Lee

I had to look it up but from what I understood it's basically mother-of-pearl.

LeoClashes

Nacre is a strong, iridescent, and resilient material that's made up of 95% calcium carbonate and 5% organic polymers. It's also known as mother-of-pearl. So I'm assuming it's just a permanent stackable buff to shield durability

Emily Gurnavage

Idk why you said it like that lol. They shooould be able to consume parts of Will as a sacrifice from what we know, yea. Will should also be able to benefit from it with more Immortal Serpent sacrifices since thats what he apparently is. Idk where you are gettin the idea about a sacrifice helping him to regrow his lost limb faster though? Oh, because immortal serpent being added to his one skill have the regen effect in the first place? That actually makes me wonder why he cant naturally regenerate. Maybe that ability is tied up in whatever is keeping him disguised as a normal human? I only really remember Will contemplating his lacking humanity like once, maaaaybe twice since he learned of it, and iirc he pretty much doesn't wanna think about it atm. And thats a big secret to trust with anyone at all, Loth included. Taking a few chunks out of him for the party to use as sacrifices seems way riskier than its worth. If he were an Uru Drake in disguise, then maybe, but Immortal Serpant doesn't seem powerful enough for a risk like that.

chris

Distributed computing but for anti mind control.

chris

A part 3 world be fine. but seeing them in action fighting a flock of seagull harpies on the next floor for example would do roughly the same thing, display the way the characters are stronger and different than before.

Emily Gurnavage

From Google: "Nacre is a strong, iridescent, and resilient material that forms the inner shell layer of some mollusks and the bulk of most pearls. It's also known as mother of pearl. Oysters secrete layers of nacre around a foreign object or nucleus to create a pearl" TLDR; Oyster spit

Uroš

Someone remind me what Nacre is?

Mariposa

I thought the baron took all of their equipment.

The Human

Is the 10% stacking? If the clones have 176 strength and make another clone does the 3rd generation get 17.6 instead of 16?

EDMANGO

Idk if its necessary to get to everyone's builds right away, maybe you can bring some of them up organically as the story progresses, like one item for some characters now or talks of builds now and then when there's a lull in the story in a few chapters from downtime after a fight one of them is like "do you think if I used x artfact from the pile I could have avoided y problem in the fight"

Logan

Tftc

0xFFF1

Don't worry about how many chapters this bit takes. This situation will only happen once. If Will encounter another massive pile of loot, it won't have anywhere the same narrative impact this one will. This is going to let the party hit way above their weight class for a while just off of improved synergies. They're supposed to be amazing for another few floors just from the momentum of what's happening here (under normal circumstances, which these aren't thanks to the death of two Lords) So take your time to upgrade everyone and give them specific builds in your offline notes document that you can look at whenever you give them a challenging situation, so you can take a long hard look to see if they have something creative with something in there among the whole parrt to steamroll it or not.

FossilWreckers

Someone will get Boar's mask, right? Right?

Xeophyn

Or Brianna for that matter. She'll regrow too.

Exrotes

Maybe everyone's favourite Baker can find a sacrifice that gives Hivemind a way to scale up mental resistances. Something that can force AOE mind effects to work against the cumulative Focus of her and her clones (probably with some kind of diminishing return based on number of clones) instead of each individually.

Xeophyn

Since Will is regenerating from when Will sacrificed Will's hand to Will's class, could Will sacrifice more Will to increase the power of Will's abilities and regrow the lost Will? What about Sacrificing Will to Will's party's abilities?

Beeees!

I mean, I wouldn't be mad. These crazy build defining chapters are great. Love a little breakage of systems

Eli Loeb

I love Loth

David W. Baijense

Oooo Nice work 👍 like the new build ideas

Macronomicon

Do we need a Pt. 3? Jeez, there's so many characters to address the Build of. Thanks for the items, though, they're really helping me get through this faster than I might've otherwise.


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