Snao
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State of Art Thing ( 002 )
🕑 Added 2022-09-05 19:04:05 +0000 UTCResponding to questions in a way that'll be more clear.
Here's what the future will be going forward:
I have launched a 3$ and 4$ tier that will only affect newcomers. I am limiting the slots for these (250 people for 3$) (500 people for 4$), and then having the normal 5$ tier that patreon has recommended for years.
Nothing else about the patreon is changing at the moment.
If any voting on subject matter occurs (ie: when i asked for character suggestions during the SGDQ marathon), it'll still be open to all tiers for the foreseeable future.
Maybe further in the future I'll consider an exclusive tier for clip studio file/photoshop file/timelapse access, but one step at a time.
tldr: financial pressure is starting to give me an existential crisis and Im losing sleep over it.
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I will completely de-list the $1 tier.
As far as I know, you'll retain access to it as long as you don't unsubscribe from it, and still have a grace period to retain it, if there are any bank issues.
But...
There cannot be any funny changing between the unlisted tier and normal tiers, so please consider things carefully before confirming a decision.
I seriously cannot fool around with checking and rechecking 1,150+ different billing histories.
So if you do decide to give up on that tier, understand that I appreciate that a lot, and that there's no going back!
It's okay to stay on that tier, and I don't feel good about forcing people off of it.
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"Discord"
No, not at this time, if ever. I cannot moderate a discord of that size. It's better to have comments visible on patreon anyway because it's a moderation aid in the honestly-rare event there is a problem.
Twitter moderation is distracting enough for me. It seriously eats up hours every week, especially in the rare event that a twitter post goes viral.
"Commissions"
No, not at this time. I'd mostly just rather have this be a fanart-focused patreon and I'm not able to work in commission work into this at this time.
"Raffles"
They're considered gambling , it's not going to happen.
"Piracy"
I am completely aware that it's taking place and where. I have the option to DMCA them, but I think that's a self-destructive thing to do in the long run, as it would be an endless fight.
Patreon Support is aware, but their management is focused more on their own UI development lol.
Do not worry about this, for real, it would be an endless battle.
It's like RP accounts that do 'art theft': I cannot fight the entire internet, I can only make more art and hope.
Keep in mind that while I do believe in the ideals of piracy, completely open piracy didn't work as a model for me. I tried it for years, back in the Tumblr NSFW Era, doing 100% free + optional tipjar.
It just didn't work, I'm sorry.
I really tried for years lol.
Thank you for your understanding
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Sorry if I wasn't able to answer your questions in general, I tried to give some feedback on your comments from the previous journal post as well.
I just feel like I'm finally at my mental limit when it comes to financial pressure, and I honestly appreciate everyone for sticking around and supporting this. It's a miracle it got this far, but it isn't going to keep pace with the cost of living, even here in the corn country of the midwest.
Thanks again, and I'll continue to mull over things, there's still an entire month to adjust things, or lock it in entirely.
EDIT/ADDITIONALLY:
I'm going to go bicycle for a while to burn off steam and continue working on the WIP image in the previous journal
Comments
Snao
Thanks ;w;
Shikashi18
Honestly, I enjoy your work and if that means having to pay 5 bucks, I'll gladly do so.
Snao
Yahhh! @_@ People have been a lot more generous than I couldve imagined lol
Tisinrei
this tier for clip studio file/photoshop would be a wonderful thing for me. ^^ Hope you can get the support needed there Snao.
Snao
It all adds up! I'm happy you're sticking around! :O
Nae
I'll sadly stick to the legacy, as I'd rather give whatever little I can afford than bail out when things get tough, especially given today's economy. °^° Tempted to hop on $3 tier for help though. Keep being awesome, all the best!
Snao
No worries! @_@; I super appreciate your support no matter what. Thank you thank you ;;
Elayn Dougle
OH i get it now. with the money thing. I made a small mistake and will rectify it. EDIT: Fuck i messed up and clearly didn't read right. Its whateves
Snao
Yep! A little bit exhausting, but I always need it
Sebas
Sounds good, hope you had a nice bike ride
Snao
Yay for minimalist "design" :,)
Snao
It helps a lot yeah! It all buys time @_@;; The outpouring of support is still making my head spin. Thank you
Nemecia G
A good choice! You’re worth the extra dosh. I sincerely hope this helps your expenses!
Margaret Trauth
shifted over after swearing at Patreon's new design for a few minutes until i finally figured out how to shift from "creator" view to "patron" view (click on your name at the bottom of the sidebar, very intuitive, god I hate the redesign)
Snao
;w; Thank Orcmom
Morgie Megadakka
Super glad you're raising your pricing, it's well deserved for how fantastically you've improved over the years, and the output you've maintained that whole time. Can't wait to upgrade!
Snao
That is the ideal dream yes yes
Snao
Thank you again @_@;;
Ranmori
Thank you for looking into it!
Snao
Patreon Support makes the following claim: "Existing patrons pledged to an unpublished tier will be tied to that tier until they edit or cancel their membership or until you delete the tier altogether."
Ranmori
I'm not entirely sure it's true you can stay on a delisted tier, could you possibly talk to Patreon about it?
Xana Synner
You're very welcome. I've been following your work for years, probably 8 years or so at least. Your compositions are awesome and have only gotten better. You deserve the love, the money, the positivity. 💙💙💙
Snao
Thank you for being extra supportive ;_; It still feels weird that people want to support this art work stuff but yah I super appreciate it. Thank you @_@;
Samuel Albert Mell
No problem! I just want you to keep being happy with making art which you seem to be so passionate about. People should be able to follow their dreams.
Xana Synner
I decided to stick with the $5 tier instead of $3 like I said I'd also be comfortable with. You're worth it. 💙
Snao
@_@ Thank you so much. I'm still stunned by how supportive everyone's been. I'm kind of dizzy. Thank you again.
Begemott
Hmm, well, I guess I have no choice... I moved up to the $5 tier! Keep up the great work!!
Snao
Thank you so much, super wobble blot ;_; I appreciate it. Thank.
Snao
Thank you so much. ;_; I'm still floored that people are willing to do any of this at all lol. Thank you thank you
Snao
Thank you, Emerys ;;
Snao
No worries regardless. It is optional because I don't want to force people into anything they are not comfortable with doing. Thank you, Ramako. Please dont feel bad at all.
Snao
You dont have to apologize for anything, I want to structure this around as much affordability as is sanely possible. Thank you so much for having faith in this work.
Snao
Thank you so much. It helps out a lot @_@;; I am trying to workout more so that I can keep doing art without any health concerns (since it's so much sedentary work) Thank you again!
Samuel Albert Mell
I'll move to the $3 tier. I can afford it and you're worth it. Please do whatever you need (as long as it's not hurting others ofc) to make sure you stay mentally healthy and well :>
Ramako
I'll move to the appropriate tier one day.
Ryan Drakel
It'll take me a bit to bump up to the higher tier unfortunately and I do apologize for that.
Emery Frenette
FUCK yeah, get that bread hunty
Wobbleblot
I will also sub at a higher tier for you.
James Dougell
Well deserved. See you at the higher tier
Snao
It does. ;_; Thank you so much, Box!!!
Snao
Thank you for your support, it helps out a lotttttt. And more importantly Im glad you like the work for what it is. That's what it's all about. Thank you thank you.
box-s
I hope this helps improve your situation and updated my tier too!
Snao
Thank you for your generosity. I appreciate it. ;_;
ThisAccountDoesExist
I’ve been a fan for years and I’ve always admired that the patreon has stayed at a dollar for so long. That being said, you were DEFINITELY selling yourself short at that price. There’s absolutely no shame in raising it to the new amounts, they’re still more than worth it for the sheer quality of the content you put out. Hell, you could release one image set a year and I’d still pay $5 a month for it. I’m really happy to hear that you’re making some changes to improve your situation and I’m sure there are plenty of people, old and new, that will jump at the chance to support you more. Do whatever feels best for you, don’t feel bad about slowing down a little or raising prices if it’s in your best interest! Nobody is going to fault you for it. Best of luck going forward, you’re always gonna be one of my favorite artists no matter what.
Snao
Sometimes I fail to duplicate all of the twitter work to here because I feel that I'm capable of completely finishing those images before posting them here as more illustrated work, but I need to realize that I can't work *that* fast
Snao
The kinds of things I would have to aren't super worth it, like setting up dropbox pools etc. idk. I've thought about it, and I just want to slap things on the internet and move on haha
Thuul
I'll update my tier and give you extra bucks, because your worth it, Gamer.
NackV
I hope this improves things, I know you can't fight the piracy, just make things not immediately easy.
NLI
Snao, a few thoughts: 1 - In terms of value for money, your patreon blows all others out of the water. No one could possibly complain about moving up to $3 and even there it's a steal. 2 - You absolutely undercharge for your work. Seriously, we all enormously appreciate it. Do what you need to make this 'work' for you - even if it means cutting down on the output you produce on here. 3 - A very minor thing, but as you don't post all your work on here, I do miss out on quite a few posts. Personally I'd really like to see the work you post on twitter get duplicated on patreon.
