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Stuff that happens. It's in the past.

🕑 Added 2018-09-12 20:26:07 +0000 UTC
Stuff that happens. It's in the past.

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hotcha

thank you for the kind words :) i think as albron says, stuff like this happens quite often, it's just how it goes, it's best to keep focused on what you're doing, and just move ahead.

z

I find the similarities odd, and they definitely pile up to the point of it seeming more than coincidental. But I feel like if anything you should just feel good knowing you're being imitated and bringing inspiration to someone that clearly doesn't have enough of his own despite his artistic talent, otherwise. The titular characters do not resemble each other enough to make a strong comparison, but the settings and layouts do. Is this theft? Is it wrong? I don't think it is. Being unoriginal and lacking creativity doesn't really equate to the same thing as outright ripping off or infringing on the original material here. I understand how you initially felt, and clearly he came up with his ideas from what you did first, but even your material could be attributed to things that have proceeded it. Almost nothing is truly original in this day and age. Everything's been done. Again, did he derive his stuff from your stuff? Yeah. Is it done to a degree you should let it get to you? No, dude. Feel good about yourself and feel free to put this information out for people to see.

SonovaDragon

Hey. I found you from Power Play in 2015, if I'm not mistaken. I'll be honest, I was blown away and I probably wouldn't contain myself looking through it. I was more restrained person then. But now I'm gonna go for the jugular. The simple fact is he is not copying your work. He down right STOLE it, sold it, and has made profit. You were making profit. I am not going to chide you. The damage is done, and the only way is forward now. I wouldn't take this with a chill game either as a budding artist myself. Take a breath, good man and don't let this stop from doing what you love!

David Corsaire

My very pleasure Hotcha :) just keep in mind you're a great artist and that your art is loved by so many people ♥

hotcha

i will be fine. a breather is all that's needed :)

hotcha

i really don't know what it is, that's the whole point. so, time to pick up the pieces and move on. and you should keep a closer eye on your notebooks. :)

hotcha

-shrugs. i cant figure it out, so it's time to just go forward!

hotcha

take no prisoners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

hotcha

i think my intensity is what drives me to draw these big, smashy sex scenes to begin with. so i think the solution is, in fact, to take a breather.

hotcha

you're very right. if you wanted a single, very isolated response, it would be this: i'm seeing someone, who's talent i greatly admire, create and use a character that feels deeply deal like my own. it's not just any character, but my oldest and most favourite one. this artist i admire is telling me there is no relation, which i take at face value, then i look back at the work and cant match his words to what i see. So, that's the loophole that needs to be cut... and that's exactly what i will do. i'm going to put those emotions into a box, throw that box into the ocean, and then throw the ocean into the sun.

hotcha

you're very, very right. thank you for reminding me and pointing that out :)

hotcha

i won't let it get me down. thanks for this super-pumped comment. it put a smile on my face! :)

hotcha

This is all very true. I think to silver lining around all of your statement is that we have so many cool artists around churning out content now. If there's overlap in content, it just is what it is. Having an overload of art is definitely a better place to be in than the slump around the end of Y!gallery and the baraboards.

hotcha

Thank you very much for the support and for the kind message. I'll do my best to get my head out of the mud, move on with my work, and keep on telling my own stories :)

hotcha

I think that's what's been the hurdle. The artist has always insisted to me that he does not reference my comics, and I believe him when he says that. I have no reason to think his words aren't true, especially when he's always been very polite and even sweet to me. But then, I look back down at the work, and a second part of me says 'Ok, but there's just no way.... it's too similar.' Then I get stuck back in that loophole. So, it's best to just leave it. Thank you for the very nice message, I will definitely push forward and not stop drawing my boys :)

hotcha

this is... wonderful advice. whether or not i am right about the imagery being copied, this is still something that happens in general in comics, so i shouldn't take it so hard. thank you for pointing that out. whatever the case is here, i really, really would not want some big consequence to befall this artist. it doesnt make things any better, it would only lead to more noise. i am going to take exactly your advice: i'll go out and have some fun, clear my brain, then get back to my boys again when i'm good and ready. Thank you, Albron :)

hotcha

thank you, sexy little french boy. maybe one day, i will get the chance to rub my beard on you.

hotcha

maybe we will, one day. thank you for the well wishes :)

hotcha

I'll keep working on Drake. I could never let that big stud go. Thank you for you comment :)

hotcha

Thank you. I won't be discouraged, I'll forge forward. :)

Orleos

Sort of a catch when you like their work, but start to have that inkling that something's just very off, and it's conflicting when you like the product, either for artistic or kink reasons, but there's that constant undercurrent of nagging and probably guilt for still liking said thing. Sorry you're going through shitty feelings like this, it's never pleasant. I think you're right though, and it'll be good to try to go down the vein of just stepping back and trying to learn or at least train yourself to stop grinding at something that's out of your control. Easier said than done though...

John Doadeer

anyway, I too love Roku's work, and yours as well. You're both amazing artists, and it really sucks to hear he's lifting stories off you and not even admitting to being inspired. But maybe he's jealous? Maybe he really looks up to your creativity that he would take /so much/ inspiration from your own work? I don't think it can quite be called copying, because there are substantial differences, but still I know that has to hurt like a motherfucker. I'm sorry dude.

John Doadeer

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John Doadeer

I know this feel. It sounds silly, but once I lost a notebook that had an outline for a novel I was going to write, and then a couple of months/years later, I think it was Dan Brown who came out with a novel with pretty much that exact same plot. I mean I knew there was no way he'd stolen my notebook, but it still hurt.

Azraell

Can't hardly believe anyone would be so cold and do something like that to you. Thats ridiculous and so unprofessional of him.

Brettly B

Even if he does try and copy your work or create characters inspired by yours it won’t matter because Drake is and always will be the OG super hot big dicked cocky muscle boy we all know and love. No imitations will suffice. I need Drake in my life! Keep him alive strong and in the spotlight. You’re my favorite artist and he’s my favorite character ever!!!

Aspyr

Hotcha, I think you're burning out and because of it things probably seem more intense then they really are. He probably is copying or heavily inspired by you - but even if that's true it's not causing you any harm. If anything it's a massive compliment. Whilst I understand it must be annoying to not receive credit, ultimately it's not costing you any pledges. :)

Selene DeGrandchamps

(Oh dammit posted too early again I'm so sorry!) The other thing you have to do is isolate what in particular is hurting you about it so much. Your so scattered that you dont seem able to address the problem and heal. So figure out why you're hurting and fix it.

Selene DeGrandchamps

(Sorry posted too soon) I also wish I could slap the shit out of you. You are torturing yourself over this! Stop! First you obviously have conflicting feelings about still being a Rokudanshi fan. You've tried stopping that, it's obviously not happening. So you have to accept it. You cant keep see sawing through deleting shit then rebuying it and subbing and unsubbing. That's just ensuring your emotions cant settle down. You still like his work. It's okay. You can hate that he used things you've made to make his own creations easier. It looks like laziness on his part. Other than the Drake expy what he has taken of yours is mostly the grunt work. Page layout, theme, write up. . . You were used for his streamlining. The plots aren't the same but the themes in them are. I have no doubt. What happened, though, is inevitable. You yourself create character expys and often just straight up draw other peoples characters. How many times have you drawn one of the x men? What is it that actually is upsetting you here? I'm asking because your emotions are scattered all over the place. Its chaos and we need to figure out how you can have peace now. Diego's design isnt that unique. Drake looks more unique but he still is obviously inspired by 90's anti heroes and your love of Dragon BallZ. So are you hurt because he profited off things you had to make from scratch? Is it that you aren't 100% sure how much he stole, if anything so you're doubting your own sanity? Is it recognition? He has a massive following and denies using you as inspiration at all so a lot of people are seeing something you influenced without ever knowing. Is it perhaps that you feel being upset is what you're *supposed* to feel but you aren't that angry and are beating yourself up for not having the correct response. I want you to feel better. To do that you need to accept you still like Rokudanshi's work. So stop torturing yourself because of it. You can have his comics on your computer and still be upset over what happened

Selene DeGrandchamps

I see the similarities too. I would like to Express my sympathy. This is obviously hurting you a great deal and I wish I could give you a hug.

Ennykins

It can be hard to deal with something like this, but you should never forget that people love the work that YOU do and what you create. You know what you enjoy with your work, and no one should be able to take that way from you.

Ply81

Keep going! When reading your posts I always enjoy your excitement of the creation process. He can’t take that away from you! And who needs a cheap copy when he can have the real thing? Don’t let this get you down! But thanks for sharing this with us to give us the chance to show how much we appreciate the original!

Thomas Polk

Albron and Songbird4774 have pegged it. Unforunately art is copied, ideas are stolen or borrowed constantly in the art world. Copyright litigation keeps many lawyers very rich. With the global digitization of art, a work can be replicated a million times in an hour. This creates a culture of consistant appropriation. Artists themsleves have an accepted version of this that is regulated by a culture of respect, permission and encouragement to the point that ownership of a work has been reduced to a question of style. Artists redo each others OCs constantly with permission and acknowledgement. Any given OC can now have hundreds of different versions, all fabulous, all in distinct styles. It is a very short step from OC to story. A very good artist may read your story and be urged to see it in his own style. Doing this without permission is and has always been an infringement of copuright and thus theft. But in today's digital era, permission and acknowlegement are discounted in the name of entitlement. The Trumpism "Nobody cares" comes to mind. Rape is not easily overcome or ameliorated. Of course you feel the way you do. But remember, you are on top here. Your work is so impressive, your ability to tell a story so enviable that another artist, a talented artist but one who may not be a creative story teller, has so admired your work that he reproduced it in his stlye so that he could claim it as his own, so that he could imitate some sort of accomplishment, some sort of achievement that approaches your ability. The tragic flaw that requires compassion consists in his inability to acknowledge his shame or pervent it in the first place by approaching you and being honest! Great artists are always imitated.

David Corsaire

Hello Hotcha 😙 first of all I thank you for this post and if I could I would definitely take you into my arms for a big hug. I am very sorry for you and I really understand your frustration and pain. Some people are very good at drawing comics but they suck with stories and so they need to get the inspiration from somewhere or someone else. But clearly here this is more than taking inspiration from your work. What you can be proud about is that you are extremely talented in both drawing and writing stories. I became a huge fan of you and I am going to pledge to support you. Please keep your head out of this mud and keep believing in you because, as a fan, I believe and we all believe in you. Much love ❤ David

RainbroGaymer

Hey, Hotcha. I am so sorry this happened to you. It sucks. I can definitely see what you are seeing. He "borrowed" from your work and didn't own up to it. Perhaps if he was up front and said "Yeah! I saw that and thought it would be fun to draw scenes with kinks and themes I like as well!" It would have been better. But he's not going to at this point. Whatever happens. Please please please don't stop. Never stop making your art. Albron is right. He is talented as an artist. But he cannot come up with your stories and scenes. You had them first. They are yours. He is just imitating you. You are the better artist and creator for it.

Albron

Hello Hotcha. Sorry to hear all that... I have to say I took a look at Rokudenashi's comics but I didn't see the link with yours at first. Some of the pages you're showing are clearly picked from yours... You're not crazy... Unfortunately, this kind of things happens a lot, in the comics books industry/ I remembered panels of JOe Madureira being ripped off by an other artist... It's sad but it's something that will always happen... It's good that you pointed it out. It's good for you, because it's a relief, I guess... And good for us to know that too ad not be fooled. Rokudenashi has a fantastic technic. His skin shadings are incredible and his sense of exageration and yet plausible anatomy are quite amazing... But he obviously lacks of imagination... One can work his technic... But not his imagination. You have that, Hotcha... He doesn't... Now take a deep breath... This won't take him very far, unfortunately... He will stop one day because he knows that he will have to face some sad consequences. So put a smile back on that cute face, go have a run, go to the gym, go to swim... Have good times with some friends, and go back working. :-) Alex

Ada'Zeym

Wow that's a lot .. I am very sorry its happening .. I will tell you that you have my full support, friendship and love :). You are an amazing artist that will never change. Drake, Thade and Elderdemons always my favorite. I always wait your art pack with pleasure. :) sure It will be better soon :) PS: I'm jealous of that beard :p

Bloom flow

I don’t think you’re crazy. The points you’ve made are very valid and the similarities are there. Don’t be discouraged though, your work is fantastic.

Brian Hernandez

Both of your work are so good. And I'm a patron for both, but I know how it feels as an artist myself. I really want to believe both of you, but all I can say is I hope things patch out.

Karan Bains

I’m so sorry that happened to you. It’s not right you worked so hard on those comic and making Drake he is an original !


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