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Sexy Sect Babes: Chapter Twenty Six

🕑 Added 2022-08-16 03:01:49 +0000 UTC

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Weed Pigeon

Cultivator Fights remind me of CS:GO HvH. Both stupidly op but yet it's the little calibrated things that make the difference.

AG

I like this chapter but to be fair I just like it in general when the protagonist bodies the antagonist

Alex LordThorsen

I'm just going to put a counter weight in the thread by saying I liked the setup and the payoff in this chapter. One of the downsides if weekly released works like this is that the author doesn't get to figure out where they're going and go back and edit things. So the format inevitably leads to some pacing issues. But even with that said I liked this chapter and it felt very satisfying given the information as established earlier.

CM

Okay so there's alot here to respond to. Let me begin by saying this is exactly how I expected the first round of this battle to go and I thoroughly enjoyed it. This is the culmination of the last month and 12 thousand-ish words where we see the anxiety Jack has of not being strong enough to stop other cultivators from taking everything from him. So he spends all that time making technological advances to defend the town and arm his troops. The training they went through to become an effective fighting force able to fight back against the spirit beasts and cultivators. Jack has also been shown in that time that Ki doesn't affect him. Bei the assassin had just a few days earlier taken out the head of the Marble Cloud sect, and then spent the rest of the time on a forced march with little or no sleep. Sure she's a cultivator, but I'm guessing that she wasn't functioning at 100%. Then when Jack notices her she's on top of the wall along with how ever far away Jack was from the wall. As far as her superior hearing I don't think it would have matterd because of how Jack talked to Ren. "“Do you see that?” he asked quietly." Ren is a cultivator so Jack "quietly" asking her he can use his helmet to adjust his volume to just loud enough that only Ren can hear it with her cultivated hearing. So, between Bei not hearing Jack, being pushed to get to the town quickly with little sleep, her overconfidence and arrogance I can see why she never suspected that she was spotted and walked right into a face full of a shotgun blast. Unless she has some other Ki skills, but we've never been shown any so why would there be. Bei wasn't stupid, she just had no reason to question how she knew things were going to work out. She hops a wall walks up to Jack and kills him, the end. As far as her knowing that Jack knows about her how would she know? He has a helmet on. "thankful for the featureless nature of his helmet. She didn’t seem to have realized that he could see her." She has no clue she's beeb spotted and is being watched at this point. The only thing novel about her is that she invisible to mortals and cultivators. For Jack who can see her that ability is worthless and should pose no challenge for him at all. I'm not sure how you can say the mines don't matter when they took out Lady Cui and most of, if not all the other cultivators. Those mines weren't for the "Nearly three thousand people, armed with little more than farming implements and without a shred of training." His walls and guns were more than enough to take them out. The drones didn't matter? Sure, they only directly inflicted some casualties on the mortals, but they caused Lady Cui to loose 2 of her disciples (corrupted cultivators?) along with injuring the rest. More importantly they caused major panic in the mortals and some in the cultivators that destroyed their morale. It also caused Lady Cui to break camp early and force march them all to Jack's town leaving her force even more weakened. I'm sure she also lost quite a few more mortals in that march because she didn't stop to fight any of the spirit beasts that attacked them. (We know this because that's one of the things she was complaining about her sister doing.) So yeah those drones were very effective. In looking back at the bast few chapters it looks like Lady Cui lost a lot of peasants. "The mortals had scattered to the four winds, or at least, the peasants had." So yeah if she had never lost those peasants from Jacks drone strike there could well have been more then enough to over run the walls. Sure we didn't see much of Kang in thia first battle, but it's not over yet. So we'll just have to wait and see how the subplot of Kang getting to command the army and through Jack, Ren and An plays out. From all of this set up there should be no FIREWORKS. Jack over prepared for this whole encounter and his plan went off perfectly. There should not be any chaos on Jack's side because he has a well trained and disciplined army. The guns did their job of removing the peasants. And at this point they couldn't have accidentally set off the mines because Jack hadn't remotely armed them yet. He was waiting for Lady Cui and her cultivators to act. Sure, battle is chaos, but Lady Cui's army never had a chance to do anything other then run into a wall of bullets and explosions. The only one to make it to the wall was Bei and she didn't have a chance either. There's no way Lady Cui could make an advantage anywhere in this chapter. There's no way this was an even fight, or a long drug out slug feast. This was Glass Jow vs. Tyson and Glass Joe got knocked out with the first punch. The part where it all comes off the rails is the next chapter when Lady Cui evolves into her second form. The only hesitating we've seen Jack do is developing a relationship with Ren and An. Jack has been going all out for getting ready for this fight. The whole agency of the enemy didn't happen this chapter because they were so overwhelmed by Jack's forces. The end of this chapter is where the crescendo starts to build when we see Lady Cui start to evolve. Next chapter you'll get your hanging on for moment after moment, and the chaos that ensues. So, yeah, I think this has been incredibly well written and the groundwork has been just as great. The pieces were all set up nicely so that each one had an additive effect on the next. This is like the build up on a song where it pauses for just a moment before the beat drops and the main chorus hits. The great boss battle happens in the next chapter. This chapter is still building to that. This chapter didn't come out wrong, it's just the last step before the climax.

CM

I enjoyed this chapter and it played out exactly how I expected it to. It's the cumulative effect of the technology, time, and training Jack introduced to his people and to the defense of his village (the superiorly constructed walls and the mine field that Jack can remotely arm / disarm), how over prepared Jack was because of his anxiety, all the psychological trauma he's inflicted on them and his natural resistance to their abilities. This was the only realistic way for this first round of the battle to conclude.

Daniel Hardman

hey at the end of the day your the one paying for all this

Arkyrion

I have to disagree with you where Bai is concerned. I agree with you that she is dangerous, mysterious, and powerful. And entirely confident and almost entirely reliant on her Misty Step technique. The citizens of the Empire possess and are effected by Ki. The idea that someone, let alone the enemy leader, could simply *ignore* such a basic law of her reality (without resorting to instinctive cultivation, which seems to come with its own issues) likely never entered Bai's mind. It was impossible, even by cultivator standards. On top of this, she was riding high after effortlessly killing her mistress, all the while contending with the degenerative mental effects of her enlightenment. Coupled with the natural arrogance that seems part and parcel of cultivation, Bai was dealing with a perfect storm of Fucked.

Argamenta

this is going to do wonders for his trade deal with the empire

Crit Happens

I agree with Pv2. However, I believe people disagree with Pb2 because they are using this story as a form of self-insert escapism and thus don't care about such nuances and only about whether they feel powerful. It is a common trait of the harem fandom.

HereForHFY

I think that the chapter did a good job of showing how anticlimactic superior firepower actually can be against an opponent with no idea what's in store for them. There is no glory to be found, no great insights, just death.

Marcin

But but but.... Jack for sure read some xiangxia novels... :D ?

Pwntatochip

Poor guy failed to adhere to rule 13. "All slain enemies will be cremated, or at least have several rounds of ammunition emptied into them, not left for dead at the bottom of the cliff. The announcement of their deaths, as well as any accompanying celebration, will be deferred until after the aforementioned disposal."

Blue Fishcake

I feel this is worth commenting on. This chapter was supposed to be set up as; Cultivators run into outside context problem for the first time. It naturally goes poorly. Next chapter is intended to be; Tech man runs into outside context problem for the 'first' time. It naturally goes poorly. Essentially, in this scenario, Jack is supposed to be the evil overlord who finally has the plucky young adventurer beat. Only for, against all odds, that plucky young adventurer to start pulling on the power of love and friendship. Because that shit can't be prepared for or quantified within Jack's worldview. Just as guns and mines couldn't be for the cultivators.

RepossessedSoul

While it is nice to see both a chapter and a fight where 'punch magic' is beaten by tech I have to feel like this fight was underwhelming. Yes the mines were hinted at, yes the use of expendable troops was elaborated on, but there was no build up to things. This read like a PowerPoint had been given three hours of polish before a HS presentation. Yes you did your ground work and the slides are well done but the presentation doesn't have any tension. There didn't ever feel to be a threat to the main character or the town. The tension just wasn't there. This was both satisfying and disappointing at the same time. Yes I love that this story has ranged advantage curb stomping melee, but there needs to be something more than just push over battles. Which is what this felt to be. If the point was to just demonstrate that the MCs forces were so far beyond the ability of the cultivators, when fighting in their element, then you accomplished that. But if this was an attempt to show a threatening force it kind of fails. I still like this series and want to read more, but you can do better. You have done better. I can't wait to see you proving me wrong with my assumptions in the next few chapters.

Carlos Torres

Didn't Jack say he's read The Evil Overlords Handbook? I'm pretty sure one of the rules was double tap with arrows, cremate, then have a priest consecrate to prevent revival.

Pv2

Well, first off I'd like to apologize for how forceful my rhetoric was at the time. I had to write that all on break, and was still riding hot off the frustration of... well, let's call it a perceived let-down, so I screwed up in adopting an appropriate tone. I've made some edits to try and correct that, though I almost certainly missed a spot. Or five. Second, none of what I said is meant to be a criticism of people for enjoying the chapter more than I did. Nobody has to defend themselves from me, or justify having a different opinion. There's nothing wrong with that - and the last thing I want to do is be a snob at people for just wanting to chill out and have a good time. Ultimately, my frustration is that after all the build-up that this battle has had, that I feel it had the pieces to be knock-your-socks-off amazing. Not because I think it's shit or anything, but because I want to read the best story this story can be, and it's uncomfortable to see the shape of what could have been and think that it just won't happen. I don't know what he's going to write in the next scene, chapter, whatever. I stand by my position that it's probably not plausible to recoup the opportunity costs of leaving this one as it is, even if it otherwise turns out excellent and makes good on most or all of the buildup this didn't. I stand by my position that this battle deserves a rewrite, and despite putting my foot in my mouth and everything else I still hope I'll have the chance to discuss it if FishCake is open to that. I could be wrong, but, well, that's a given, right? It's just my opinion, after all.

Matt Barron

I don't agree with much of what you brought up but I can't be assed to spend the effort as you seem incredibly confident that you are perfectly right about everything. Your statement of how winnowing the enemy didn't matter being an example. The whole point of a drone strike like that is to reduce the enemies numbers but it also invokes a lot of psychological damage. The drone attack sped up the enemies advance greatly which reduced the stamina of all involved AND messed with their minds. So before the army even got to the town they were losing. I could go on but meh.. Cultivators have been framed as arrogant and rigid this entire story so the assassin who just got pumped up in power is going to be arrogant....

Matt Barron

If I was Jack by this point I would be double/triple tapping anything resembling a cultivator and burning the corpse because punch wizard bullshitery. One would hope that the assassin experience would of taught him the need for a sensor network around the town and outside it's walls. Would also be a superior supplement to the spotters.

Daniel Hardman

well i enjoyed it, and the story isnt done yet, feels like youre jumping to conclusions pal.

The Fire Piper

Love it. Thank you for another fun filled chapter of mayhem!

Rodney the Paladin

Yeah, but like- that's your opinion... man.

Pv2

I'm not going to sugarcoat this - reading the result, if I had to peg a cause to your difficulty writing the chapter, it was because you ultimately settled on a series of events to which the things you've spent the last month and 12 thousand-ish words setting up do not belong, and are utterly wasted on. The assassin is just the most in your face example, and could be compared to, well. Like a TV cliffhanger that's established just before the commercial break, and then resolved with no consequence immediately after the commercials end. Not even because she was caught off guard - she was just stupid in a way that flies in the face of her specialty. Johansen doesn't know about instinctual cultivators, and I recall that they're established as having even stronger senses than normal, so he doesn't actually have a way of deliberately asking Ren if she could see her without the assassin knowing. It follows that her not overhearing the question was pure, unacknowledged luck. Even once accepting that she hadn't directly overheard, we're talking about one of if not the highest ranked espionage-focused cultivators of the sect, someone who was built up over multiple chapters as dangerous and mysterious... only for the mystery to be quashed as irrelevant and probably uninteresting. To suspend disbelief at the exchange I have to swallow that she's inexperienced or just *bad* at shadow-dancing, at trying to gain advantage in the game of "know they know I know" and maneuvering for advantage before the start of a fight against someone without actually setting it off. That she's just THAT much of a chump in her fundamentals, even though by rights she should be incredibly proficient in it, certainly more-so than what Johansen would have from his days as a street tough. Even though as a cultivator who fundamentally eschews Face and instead focuses on dirty tricks she should be a completely novel and difficult challenge for the protagonist to overcome. And, well, I suppose that set the downer framing me as I read the rest. We learned where and how the mines were set up, and how they functioned. Didn't matter. We learned all about the drones and how they'd been winnowed out by wildlife. Didn't matter. We went through a whole plot about the camp being winnowed down ahead of time. Didn't matter, they were taken out as a group and it would have gone the exact same way if the drone harassment had never happened. The largest change to events coming from all of that simply seems to be that the commoner levee is more exhausted, but the firing line was never strained in the first place. We went through this whole subplot about Johansan passing command to Kang and secretly allowing that to include himself and through that the other cultivators - which Johansan is incredibly trepidatious about, pressing against his experience with cultivators and his feelings for where Johansan's deviation from that norm end. You didn't put pressure on that situation or pose its development as important to the fight in the slightest. You spent most of the story establishing how Johansan is completely inexperienced in command and is just barely winging it even in personal-scale fighting using his instincts from his history as a street thug, and how that frequently forces quick adaptation in the face of cultivator doctrine that is far more prepared for the shape of his capabilities than he expects. This should be going off like FIREWORKS in combination with Kang's tension and the presence of an assasin cultivator that only he can see. These elements and their trajectory, if allowed to act naturally, could not HELP but explode into a massive conflagration of chaos and miscommunication that would in part fall to Kang - held down by his apprehension at command over Johansen, and his ability to break past that - to recover from, all while the enemy screen marches on the gates and threatens forcing the detonation of the mines early, upon which the cultivators would get a chance to adapt, in turn forcing the two allied cultivators into action. ESPECIALLY if the assasin gets word back to them about it, herself having been able to avoid the mines and thus clearly knowing they're there. And because of her same skillset, she'd be the first to notice if Johansen held back to not hurt his mortal soldiers and exploit that, making her ability to at least get off the walls if she so desired a certainty - and her ability to sow chaos by making the actions needed to pursue and attack her look exactly like ones that would be used to punish or execute an insufficiently effective mortal group of soldiers. And ever, the levee marches forward, every drop of the above chaos compromising the effectiveness of the fire line that keeps them at bay. Battle is chaos, every action rippling outwards to create pockets of advantage, disadvantage, and opportunity that officers can only try to recognize and exploit to shift the tide. Fights as a storytelling medium establish a correlation between a person's ability to fight and achieve their objective and development of their character arc - making actions that they'd be hesitant to do otherwise the most advantageous and pushing them past that hesitation or signalling they've already grown from it. The agency of the enemy and the clash with them adds a pressure to this that can build to a crescendo, moment after moment hanging not just on physical capability, but on who they are as people, and how that ties into what even brought them to blows. Whether that's Kang held back by his distrust (relative to a non-cultivator) of Johansen and apprehension at commanding Ren and An - or Johansen, whose lack of deep care for other people and mounting frustration erodes his effort avoiding friendly fire could lead him to break the morale of his own troops and reveal some of his cards before he should to cut the gordian knot if he doesn't come to a self realization or Kang doesn't get over himself enough to be firm in reeling Johansen in. In ways like this, a fight can deliver on narrative arcs that themselves have little or nothing to do with fighting, and add a deep pathos to the spectacle. The pieces were all there. They're just... set aside, if not discarded outright. I know there are people praising this right now. But to take all of this setup and come out with something merely "okay" that can and has been done in this story already with almost no framing or groundwork at all is just... it's so, so much less than this set piece's potential, and it renders an uncomfortable amount of the buildup into fat that could better have been cut out entirely. I strongly, strongly feel it should be rewritten. A great boss battle at the end can help, but not to the extent of undoing the problems with this segment. I'll have more time in the evening to elaborate, if you're open to that. But even if you're not, and don't think my ideas can help, please trust me when I say that this battle came out wrong but is so, so so very worth doing right.

Chargcake

Faster chapters pls


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