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Sexy Steampunk Babes: Chapter Forty Six

🕑 Added 2024-09-30 08:58:04 +0000 UTC

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MarakEvans

Sorry, Blue. Too sleepy. Will catch the post later...

Ohmps

As the story has established though, he isn't quite doing the realistic thing. As seen with his plan for his sister and what actually worked out.

MarakEvans

She laughed humorlessly. “I can’t argue that. We finally finished installing your ‘radios’ onto those royal ships chosen for them, and the captains and admirals that have been sworn in on them can’t praise them enough. My daughter[s?] included.” *unsure if only one singular daughter of the queen is working with the radios*

Bunten44

there goes my lint I guess

MarakEvans

“Did you know they designed the ball-turret themselves,” he said, changing the subject. “Sure, it was [with] the aid from a few other scholars in their estate, but it was mostly their own work.”

MarakEvans

He laughed, amused that his [predilections] were known to the woman even if he’d never actually spoken of them.

MarakEvans

Rereading this chapter again. That thought in mind, she was about to do something… reckless, when a small noise had her pause. Turning quickly, a rebuke on her tongue for whoever dared to enter her House’s private hangars at this hour, she qualled when she saw [not] just one of the Academy’s Instructors, but an entire squad of the Academy’s guards.

MarakEvans

*is refreshing*

MarakEvans

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Blue Fishcake

Beta readers have it :D

Random Information

22junk - Your analogy with parents is interesting because absolute monarchs often described themselves as the father or mother of the nation. But this is a feudal monarchy, which is much more like a dysfunctional family with a nominal head of the family and lots of squabbling children. And my point is that he is really not breaking the rules. The main rule of feudal systems (I think) is to support your liege when he (or in this case she) calls for it in time of war. Every thing else is negotiable, often coming down to customs or personal relationships. That's why it is such a bad system. The thing I like about Blue Fishcake's writing is exploring different civilizations but gender-reversed. But it is always difficult though to break out of our present-day mindset in evaluating scenarios. Yes, William's actions may be wrong to our viewpoint, but I don't think anyone would even blink in a feudal world.

MarakEvans

3kWords/7days= 428.57 words/day At the old rate, you should take 11.66 days to write 5k words. Consider yourself overworked... by +66% of your old 7 day writing work. Edit: We appreciate it, but don't burn out for it.

Drunk Pop-Tart

I thought it was longer when i read too! I read this chapter and thought i was reaching the end like 3 times and it kept going, in a good way.

Trevayne

Interesting question, what is the status of literacy and printing in Lindholm? Do printing presses exist and how literate is the population? My guess is they do exist and despite the medieval aspects, I expect literacy resembles late 18th century or early 19th century Britain. While ignorant on lots of topics, I don't think they had to teach Verity to read and her family were slaves. In addition, in one of the early chapters William mentioned reading a student handbook or pamphlet that was in each of their desks. I doubt they would exist if they had to be hand-copied.

Trevayne

Aside from just shooting the saboteurs using flight suits and shard pilots, how do you concentrate the casualties among the mages? An airship could have several hundred in its crwew of which maybe 10 or so are mages. If it is shot down, most of the casualties will be non-mages. Aetherconnon balls enchanted with lightning and/or fireballs will those they hit or who are within the blast radius. If anything, a mage's defensive spells like stoneskin might give them a better chance to survive than a non-mage.

Trevayne

Good point. On the one hand, subordinates/allies that can think and use their own initiative are a treasure, but if they don't tell you what is going on, it may interfere with your own plans and actions. In the worst case, you can wind up working at cross purposes and doing the enemy's work for them.

Blue Fishcake

I can do this :D Next week I might just do a shorter chapter so I can get back to standard. (The last two have been a bit over 5k, when the old 'standard' was 3k)

MarakEvans

Or... hear me out... 8 day release schedule. Eventually you will get to a Friday release AND less stress. Sound good?

Vonbaron

Legit my main concern

22junk

I would think that “don’t reveal valuable info to my enemies” would be understood. My parents never told me not to secretly drive their car to my friend’s house when I was 14 but they still punished me for it. The fact of the matter is William is not the ruler of the nation, but he is making decisions that can impact the whole country and he knows the queen won’t like. Not to mention he’s only getting away with it by threatening to arm traitors who would usurp the queen and butcher her family, which is in of itself treason. You can argue about the ethics of having a monarchy or being born into fealty without your own consent, but this is the system he’s in and he’s breaking the rules. I’m sure ego is part of her anger, but so is fear of what he’ll do next. And given what we know of his state of mind and future plans she’s not wrong to be. Everyone loves the movie’s rogue hero who has no time for paperwork and plays by his own rules because we can see into their head and know what they’re about. In real life those people are a nightmare to work with, and doubly so to be responsible for.

Jacob

Yeah, but they've shown they're willing to betray the queen in the first place, so.......

Isak Mark

I have a similar pet peeve, full democracy doesn't make sence as a goal. Democratic monarchy like the one which was established in England with a house of lords is more realistic

andreas

Well as long as we know you have pulse we will manage to entertain ourselves till the next chapter;-)

Blue Fishcake

Sorry if I've not been particularly active in the comments this week :D Chapter should be out on Sunday - with us slowly clawing back to Friday!

Blue Fishcake

Chapter should be out tomorrow, putting us one day closer to clawing back Friday. As for my health, I'm surviving :D

Random Information

I still don't like the explanation for the Queen's anger at William's diplomacy with his family. A key line is this:- "I can tolerate some degree of rebelliousness in return for a talented subject..." But William isn't a subject is he? I'm not an expert on feudal systems, but William is a Count, which makes him a vassal not a subject I think. He has his own private army and ships, and can engage in limited diplomacy so isn't he well within his rights? I have a fix for this. If William had been ordered not to tell his family by Yelena, or this [not telling] was part of their prior agreement to spare his sister's life, then Yelena's actions would sense.

Borisoff72

Fortunately, given the specific roles that Mages play in combat, it would be possible to concentrate casualties among them.

andreas

Regardless of the pressing question of release date: How is your health doing? Still bad/better/all good?

Trevayne

I doubt that, not because he isn't ruthless enough, but that level of casualties would ensure the Solites or Lunites just roll over Lindholm at their leisure. Pretty sure he isn't doing what he is doing just so he can try it again on a higher difficulty setting.

JR9364

I'm slowly beginning to suspect that Williams plan is to ensure that the civil war has ww1 level casualties, so that there isn't enough nobles to fight back against any reforms he wants to push.

Carl Philip Steuch

Education and civic engagement is the name of the game when it comes to introducing democracy. Imposing it on a population that have no connection to those ideas have rarely gone well. Maybe he could ask for leadership of the Blackstone’s territory and the orcish after the war as a protectorate under the crown, then implement an advisory assembly of elected representatives of the groups of interests under him. Gradually increase that assembly’s responsibilities while he focuses on industrialization and spread the word of the benefits of the system to the country at large, buy off or convert other territories, then start putting the vice on the queen; become a constitutional monarchy, and be remembered as the leader who willingly gave the people freedom and democracy, or begin a civil war against someone with a major technological edge. Honestly, he could probably do a lot now by introducing a better printing press, making it easier and cheaper to make books, and therefore incentivizing higher literacy rates and all that follows from that.

Trevayne

That is an interesting idea. I wonder if he could set up a deal where the orcs join Lindholm as a democracy run by an elected duke-equivalent. That would let the orcs be the testbed, work out some bugs, and let the rest of Lindholm get used to the concept without a French Revolution style reign of terror.

Vlad Cold

Overall, giving democracy to people who don't know HOW to live without nobles is generally a bad idea, historically... So it won't fly in the queendom without a LOT of education and propaganda. Among free orcs, though...

Bunten44

I bet my best lint on monday

Trevayne

I agree that they are sen as traitors now. That said, Yelena might let the Ashfields rise further in the future, once the Blackstones have been dealt with. The Ashfields are a threat because of what they can do for the Blackstones. By themselves, they are a dime-a-dozen county with one airship and two shards.

Jay

The Ashfields are traitors, that includes Olivia. Yelena will never trust them, nor will she ever allow them to gain more power than they currently have. There's too much risk that the Ashfields will decide to side with the Blackstones to gain even more power and favor.

The Fire Piper

It's hype time! It's hype time! Will Williams sister be dragged kicking and screaming from her comfortable home to Williams man cave? How about those twins eh? Will they fall head over heels for William because he's smart and sexy? Are we gonna see a Corsair soon? How about flying lessons? Are there flying combat drills coming? We will find out maybe soon? Could be Sunday!? Monday!? Who knows?!?!?!?!? On SEXY STEAMPUNK BABES!

The Fire Piper

Good point!

Brandon

I might be missing something, but is anything stopping William from pressing the Summerfield claim on his sister's behalf instead of marrying another claimant? After she is under his protection?

Trevayne

Thinking some more about William's solution for his Olivia problem, has he thought it through? What keeps Blackstone from trying to kidnap Olivia from Redwater? Especially since they might even spin it to Olivia as a rescue to foil her brother's interference with her chance to be a duchess. I expect the Queen will need to beef up the agents keeping an eye on William at his estate. After discussing it with William, she could send over some guards openly under the guise of instructors for the household troops William is raising. I expect William would be OK with that, as long as it was prearranged and they are significantly outnumbered by his own people.

Trevayne

…Did it really matter who won the Summerfield Ducal Seat at this point? Of course it did! The thought was like lightning through his brain. Sure, he couldn’t fight the Blackstone fleet over the seat now, but that didn’t mean there wasn’t an opportunity here. An opportunity to both gain an ally and place them into a position of considerable power. All he had to do was help his chosen candidate beat out the other contenders – of which his sister now wasn’t. Assuming William's ploy to get his sister away from the Blackstones works, how can the Blackstones continue to involve themselves in the Summerfield succession? IIRC to be involved, a house either has to have a claimant or needs a marital tie to the claimant. Unless they have a claimant, the Blackstones can not openly interfere with their fleet, unless they want to annoy all the other nobles who get upset at someone interfering in their successions. This suggests that Blackstone either continues to try to get Olivia, probably by kidnapping her, or they try for one of the others, either by offering a lot to Morrowfield or Plumgarden. They might conceivably have a claimant of their own, probably a male bastard. The heir would have a weaker claim than any of the others, but a stronger claim if married to Olivia. On the other hand, a weak claim can be the strongest if all the other candidates are dead.

Trevayne

I agree that the Crown is not supposed to interfere with the succession of noble titles. That said, the Crown is not supposed to openly interfere with the succession. I am pretty sure that assassinating Olivia would be an example of covert interference. However, William telling the Queen that he has his own plan to ensure the next Duchess of Summerfield is not a Blackstone ally would help. He isn't asking her to interfere, he is asking her to let him handle it. The only assistance I think he wants is any information the Queen has on the players.

Lurkemancer

The Royal Crown in general has no business poking around the succession processes of it's subjects (unless requested by all parties to act as a mediator), as that would very quickly undermine the authority of the Crown on the grounds that it has discarded the autonomy it promises to it's nobility. Because while the nobles serve the crown, they have near complete autonomy within their own borders. To the point where they could arrest royalty within their own lands; Now, sure, it would come with trouble later on, but they do have that right. And the Crown messing around with that autonomy would be seen as them curtailing that, which would lose them basically any and all support for the upcoming war (in this instance). The only times the Crown has the authority to intervene is if there are absolutely no successors or when the succession struggle deadlocks the nation too much and/or too long, resulting in long term stability issues.

mike wade

She can't legally interfere with the succession. I'm pretty certain if she tried, the blackstones would immediately take advantage

Conrad34xdsa

One thing that I’m surprised hasn’t come up would be informing the Queen his current plan to remove his sisters claim by installing someone else. I think if she knew that she would be more forgiving of his behavior

Trevayne

I don't think Will can mage-smith his way to an ICBM. Heck, I am not sure the maps are accurate enough to target it, even if he could build it. I doubt he is going for nukes anytime soon either. Does anyone even know about Uranium's existence yet? Assuming he can get his hands on some, how does he enrich it without killing himself?

Conrad34xdsa

Doesn’t mean you have to introduce one long-term. Just do one like what you did with the POV chapter of the palace guard. Quick reflection of the world at large, reflection of other characters, introduce a few plot hooks and a revelation that she is the spy in the palace.

Lurkemancer

"He laughed, amused that his predictions were known to the woman even if he’d never actually spoken of them." This has a bit of a continuity error to it, as back in chapter 16, he all but confirmed to Griffith that he's into "women" and didn't bother to deny being a "cougar-chaser".

Dancingrage

And Will wakes up and chooses technology and violence. Sex might be in there somewhere with the violence, but nothing like the hyper fixation on finding an excuse to bring out a bigger gun. I mean, he's got the Fat Man in there somewhere, maybe some of the more recent ICBM or cruise missile versions.

Ollie Fairweather

The magna carta was imposed by nobles so you can build levels of democracy top down it just takes longer. A parliamentary system makes more sense in this story, you aren't going to strip the nobles of their power without it being a very bloody affair.

Andrew Lechner

That's fair, maybe have the youngest one start attending the academy? Unless they are all adults already?

Blue Fishcake

It's been on my mind for a while, but I'm worried about bloating the cast too much.

9 o’clock

When will we get to see one of the queen’s daughters?

Blue Fishcake

I too remember the trailer for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare :D (Not that I disagree... but I'm just the author.)

Spintool

You can’t force democracy on a population that doesn’t understand its significance, democracy was only achieved in the west because of the enlightenment. Without that important step where the people start to understand the importance of human rights and liberal ideals like tolerance than democracy would be impossible. America has been trying to shove democracy in cultures that don’t understand those ideals and it hasn’t been working

Allen Mainville

> “It’s all coming together!” And if the sisters get their way, so will they.

Borisoff72

MAges, though, are in positions where mage craft has nothing to do with qualifications for the position. Remember that stupid elf sea captain from the first few chapters? Clearly, some sailor pleb could have done that job better.

Baron Von Mott

> shares mutual interests/talents with the twins > fully recognises the value of having them as allies > most importantly, they're just about old enough for him to actually be interested phsyically *Oh Yeah, It's All Coming Together!*

Trevayne

I suspect they do have some refined petroleum products in the form of their alchemical version of Greek Fire. I think that is crude oil alchemically treated to be even more flamable. I don't think they use refining and distillation the way we do.

MASC

Due to culture clash and magic along with the amount of bloodshed that would occur, wouldn’t it be more feasible for Will to try to implement a constitutional monarchy with figurehead nobility as the best approach towards developing democracy? A pure democracy doesn’t seem possible or sustainable in the current time period of the world. Depending on the popularity of the current regime he may get little to no support from the masses if he tries to launch a violent revolution. (That will get the ones he loves killed) Also if he removes the monarchy and he eventually dies a Napoleon, Cromwell or Stalin situation would likely occur due to how long lived the elves are who would likely have older generations of elves with greater motives to sabotage any fledgling democratic system. A good amount of the population of the world are elves/half elves with long lifespans who seem to get set in their ways & would see no semblance of a monarchy as a travesty; plus they are very proud of their magical bloodlines & linages so they would oppose to the bitter end over centuries the idea of no nobility. People don’t realise how much death, destruction and chaos occurred in the French revolution. He would be more likely to get himself killed if he goes down the French revolution route. Lastly a majority of the people he knows or have some form of relationship with are part of the establishment and would have a hard time agreeing with his radical ideas of a pure democracy.

MarakEvans

Kraken scales have anti magic properties. Partially why they nest near aether Cores. Tingly scale scratches. Likely, most "magical" methods were thought moot and labeled deadends.

costochondritis

hmm, so this chapter really made me think of a possible plothole - if things can be enchanted to explode, then why did nobody else think of making a "kraken slaying" enchanted weapon by dropping a big thunder enchanted rock or whatever in the water before Will did it with blackpowder?

Blue Fishcake

Fixed, thanks :D

Redacted

He wouldn't even need to do that, if he can prove that she did it, the nobility would depose her right then and there. No civil war needed.

Isak Mark

@Trevayne true, but it's hard to put what technologies already exist we know they have advanced piping and knowledge for pressure systems but not much else is known. Like they have aluminium through some mage, other random 'advanced' technology through harrowing. But we don't really get a full picture of what is available. Like they have refined petrol products to some extent.

Trevayne

Here is the section. It is mostly talking about shards and personal combat. “Since the first magical contract positioned the mage as the queen of the battlefield, the defensive capability of combatants has consistently been outpaced by that of their offense. Certainly, some breakthroughs like that of Kraken scale armor championed by Houses like New Haven have made to shorten the gap between the shield and the spear, but that is all they’ve achieved. A shortening. And rarely for long.” The woman’s hand came down to the side-arm at her hip. “As evidenced by the invention of the bolt-bow as a direct counter to anti-magic. A weapon which, as I’m sure you all well know by now, is perfectly capable of piercing anything short of plate armour at under a hundred meters. And at ranges far beyond that with the newly developed Spell-Bolt.” More than a few eyes made to turn in his direction at the dark elf’s words, but they didn’t linger long as Griffith roared. “Eyes front!” Every head present snapped back to the front with enough force to give the owners whiplash as their instructor continued. “This universal truth of offense being more potent than defense is even more true for shards. " The problem with all of this is airships are described as ironclads with thousands of tons of armor. Even just an inch or so is going to be hard to defeat with shells fired by giant airguns. They actually built some in OTL, but conventional guns tended to hit harder and had three times the range. I expect they have to get in close and batter their opponents into submission. Ships aren't killed by single lucky hits, but just cumulative damage, unless the saboteur gets to the core. So far, the ship-to-ship combat sounds like the age of sail in 3D. Hits going through gunports or jamming shutters shut will slowly impair the target ship's ability to fight. IIRC the last big battle against the Solites only took out about six ships from each side, but the Solites were unwilling to risk heavy, apparently permanent, losses.

22junk

It was mentioned 2 chapters ago that weapons have always outpaced armor. Maybe enchanting a cannonball with lightning propels it, and it’s the fire spells that make it explode. Or maybe it’s just easier to compromise the armor by aiming for gaps like the gunnports? Would a manufactured hole in a wall of metal be enough of a weak spot to overcome the speed issue? I don’t actually know if aiming for that small a target with a canon is feasible. Or maybe the answer is simply “air soft guns can’t crack steel, but this is aether, bitch.” If they have jet packs and can float ships it must be a hardcore gas. I’m a bit out of my depth with these physics discussions, but sinking ships must be possible or there wouldn’t be a graveyard out in the middle of the ocean.

Trevayne

Possible, but I thought they were all supposed to be 18, and Verity's sections don't mention much about a prep school. The team sections do mention having to bring Verity up to speed on some things, but IIRC they were mostly things about the school and noble background stuff.

Trevayne

The problem with this interpretation is that there are elements that can rise. Mages that do we;ll can rise from peasant to noble. Merchants whpo do well can become wealthy enough to effectively be nobles. Lindholm is not nearly as stagnant as pre-Revolutionary France.

Morpheus

"a quarter of palace guardswomen." should that be "quartet"?

Trevayne

I still think he would back the Queen over Blackstone because she opposes slavery, but as soon as the war was won she would be a dead woman walking.

Trevayne

I don't think he is there yet. The only technologies he has used IIRC are gunpowder bombs/mines, radio, gramophone, spell-bolt guns (rifles with a magical firing system), and the interruptor gear. More has been implied in his thoughts, but these are the only technology items that have seen use. Edit: I fully expect him to introduce high explosives, but the only one we have seen used so far is gunpowder. For that matter, he might start by introducing a smokeless powder-style propellant. That would let him send shells using gunpowder farther without introducing true high explosives like TNT or RDX.

Vlad Cold

TBH, heavier planes generally gain speed faster/higher in a dive than lighter of similar geometry, because of square-cube law in conjunction with aerodynamics. Also, they HAVE to go faster, having generally higher stall speed.

Trevayne

I have seen a lot of speculation about his being a fighter pilot, but no evidence. There is a reference to previous experience as a pilot on Earth, but that could have been military, civilian, or commercial. As for WW2, that is unlikely. He apparently died at 78 and if his death was in 2024, he would have been born in 1946, so way too late for WW2. Even if we assume a cumulative age of 96 (18+78), that still means he was born in 1928 and would still be too young for WW2.

Luke Payne

It would be the death nail of her chances of winning against black stone. As soon as his sister dies, all of William's support for the Queen dies. He allows Blackstone to win the civil war, and figures things out from there. Or alternitively, says fuck it, brings all of his knowladge to bear and takes the whole continent for himself.

Luke Payne

rule britannia intensifies

Luke Payne

Become? Our man is already ungovernable.

Luke Payne

Likely the latter. Especally with a slave, they need only be litterate enough to follow instructions.

PalindromeJoe

William has always had all of George's ideals (that being an American WW2 veteran pilots memories) but he mentioned that it would be easier starting off with the issue of slavery, before moving onto bigger tasks such as the institution of democracy, or getting rid of elf-privilege.

Floplays

dam, i kind of expected a "and u dont want me to maybe stay for a little longer..." line, but he seems to need sleep

notreal name

I really hope the queen survives, he could perhaps convince her to shed some of her power and set up a parliament. This place could really use a parlament. Get the nobles looking at each other and the PM spot, rather than looking at her head.

Trevayne

There is a mention in chapter 43 that he can't take over a country with a single county's troops and one ship. "Now that Tala wasn’t leaning over his shoulder, he actually had an opportunity to make some inroads with the other nobles here. Which was good, because his eventual plans would require at least some degree of support from others. Because like it or not, he couldn’t conquer an entire country with a single county’s worth of troops and a single airship." It doesn't say why he would be doing this so it could have been to him thinking he would need to do it to get rid of slavery. We now know it looks like a contingency to install democracy, but it could have been to defeat the Blackstones after a Royalist defeat. I don't think there was any previous mention of democracy.

Trevayne

Thinking about it, I wonder if that would be an amusing justification for William to take up the Queen's offer and marry into the Royal family. That way he has plenty of time to convince them that his point of view on democracy being a better system is correct. A monarchy with a good ruler can be a good system. The problem is that there is no way to ensure the follow-up rulers will be good ones. I would love to see a political discussion between William and the Queen regarding the merits of the two governmental types and how she thinks she can avoid the consequences of a bad heir.

Trevayne

The thing is the Blackstones can counter the Queen's invisible agents and may also have their own. If they have their own invisible assassins, why can't they kill 2-3 heirs? For that matter, why are the Blackstones on a timer? They don't know that the Crown is getting stronger beyond the ability to commission a few new ships based on the recovered cores. They could have moved already except that William's defeat of Tala cast some doubt on their competency. I expect they will move in about two years, whether or not they can get Summerfield on their side. They will certainly be encouraged to go by New Haven, because they are hoping for costly battles between Blackstone and the Crown's forces that weaken both sides. This serves New Haven because they are actually working for the Solite Empress.

Isak Mark

Is William using nitrogen based explosives? If so making feralizer and selling that as well is the logical thing to do.

22junk

Killing every single candidate secretly from across the map would be challenging, and now that Ashfield is (supposedly) abandoning the cause there’s no point. As for marrying into another family and trying the same strategy, it may be that other contenders for the seat aren’t as flexible with their honor. Perhaps house Ashfield originally approached them and offered them some sort of insurance. The Blackstones approaching an unknown with threats and promises this close to the finish line might be too risky. Plus now that the conspiracy is blown open the Queen will be trying to counter every move they make, and she’s a lot closer.

Business Casual

It was stated to be an infant William that asked the question, so I'm sure it was a straightforward/simple question not necessarily about slavery. Also, I think democracy, or at least a change of system, has been mentioned before. He said something about having to focus on other changes first because trying to totally upend the way the world worked wouldn't go well for him.

Trevayne

One thing I missed from the description of William's visit with the twins and his subsequent conversation with Griffith is any sense he was aware of just how hard they were trying to flirt. Was he really oblivious until Griffith mentioned it? It seems unlikely, but it also seems unlikely that William did not experience a couple of inner chuckles at how hard the twins were trying to get a response from him while he was not reacting. Especially since he had announced a previous plan to interfere with the Blackstone's plan to get Summerfield by going after it himself. To do that he needs to be betrothed or married to a claimant. Now maybe he has decided to listen to Marline's advice and not do it, but while his discussion with his mother has taken his sister mostly out of the firing line. It still doesn't prevent the Blackstones from making another try for Summerfield. They just need another candidate and could try to get Plumgarden or the twins. For that matter, what stops Blackstone from just killing the twins and Plumgarden? That makes Olivia the heir by default. If they think she will side with them anyway, what does William do now? Lots of potential drama here.

Trevayne

"Fortunately for him, while explosive shells were useful, it wasn’t like the locals didn’t have them already. One just needed to enchant a cannonball with fireball or lightning spells. Sure, said enchantment would initially be one third as potent as said spells, but that just meant you needed to layer the enchantment three times for the same effect. Then repeat that a dozen more times and soon enough you’d have a shell capable of blowing holes in the armored hull of even a steel framed ship." Rereading this, that isn't how explosive shells work against armor (unless you are talking about shaped charges). They don't just explode against armor, damage it, and eventually get through. To be effective, they have to be fired at sufficient velocity, the shell hits the armor and penetrates it, and the explosive goes off inside the armor. Just look at the first battle between ironclads. Both sides fired lots of shells at each other and accomplished nothing much, aside from one shell from the Virginia that exploded against the Monitor's conning tower and temporarily blinded its commander. Given the aethercannon (giant air gun) technology, I doubt they can fire shells at sufficient velocity to actually penetrate significant armor. That suggests that William's idle musing about taking his cruiser against several Blackstone ships is not that unrealistic. There are two innovations he could use that would make his ship much more effective. The first and most obvious is to install improved guns using gunpowder or other chemical propellants. These could fire explosive shells at higher velocities where they would actually penetrate the armor. That could be done with something like a Parrott or Dhalgren gun using black powder. Shifting to smokeless powder could allow similar armor penetration at even greater ranges, beyond those where an aethercannon can hit. If he also invents telescopic sights and improved fire control, he could hit the Blackstone ships outside their own range and slaughter them. The other innovation he could introduce is a shaped charge. That would allow explosive shells fired from aethercannon to readily penetrate the armor on other airships. It probably would not kill a target, immediately, because the shaped charge jet would just ignite flamables inside the armor, but the fires could be fought. If he could come up with a tandem charge where the initial charge blows a hole in the armor for the second charge to go through and explode inside, he might be able to kill an opposing ship with a few hits.

Borisoff72

On the other hand, you could just say that this world operates on Aristotelian physics.

Trevayne

Thanks. Is it more like Iceland or more like Athens? I am interested because I am trying to figure out what kind of existing democratic concepts he has to work from and how much he has to build from scratch. From a meta-perspective, William's anti-slavery attitude has been there from chapter one. Was creating a democracy there too, or did you and thus William decide to add it later? I can understand William adding it to ensure slavery stays dead and doesn't re-emerge after he is gone.

Blue Fishcake

Dwarven Homeland(s) have a 'citizen' democracy.

JaxonJak

Queen: Stop being so unruly, it's harder for me. William: BECOME UNGOVERNABLE!

Trevayne

Question, does this world have any democratic traditions? We know the eleven empires do not have plebians, since everybody is a mage, but I expect they are still monarchies. Are there any places like Iceland, which had a democracy for several hundred years before the US? Are there any historical examples like Athens or the Roman Republic? I appreciate that neither of them was a democracy, they both came closer than feudalism.

Trevayne

Since this was the first mention that William wants democracy in addition to ending slavery, I hope he has given it some more thought. Ending slavery is much simpler since it can be imposed by force from above. Democracy is much harder, although I expect that the freed slaves will be very interested in William's political ideas. One selling point he could use with the Queen is that it is even harder to waste human potential in a democracy. This means a Lindholm that is a democracy has a better chance of resisting the continental empires like the Solites and Lunites.

Borisoff72

I think you misunderstand the implication of the post. Like Will, Napoleon hated the monarchy not because of democratic principles (though his brother Lucien did), but because it was run by an outmoded, inbred, arrogant elite that believed that its devinely ordained birthright trumped ability and merit. (Though Lindholm's dynasty isn't as degenerate as the Bourbons were, yet.) As very capable people, neither Will nor Napoleon can/could abide this state of affairs (recall William's snide thoughts about elves in the first few chapters). It means that Will absolutely can never be reconciled to heriditary monarchy. However, it also means that even if he can't admit it to himself, he probably has no intention of allowing his grand vision to be compromised by squabling democratic politics.

Trevayne

It will be interesting to see what he comes up with. I doubt there will be a Senate, because there are no pre-existing state/colonial governments. However, there probably will be something like a House of Lords, because there certainly are pre-existing feudal structures. For that matter, we have very little information about how the non-nobles feel about their society. I would expect cruel and/or uncaring aristocrats are despised by their subjects and the ones who do a better job for their populations might be liked. We just haven't seen that many characters from the peasantry. I do think things are going to be different than OTL historical attitudes because there is more built-in social mobility. If one is a mage born as a serf/peasant, they don't have to stay a peasant. They automatically become a yeoman/free townsman equivalent and can rise into the nobility.

BeanerOO

Remember the Hollow stuff? He's driven to specifically *use* his knowledge. He'll get to use a lot more if he has to fight the Queen. If he can become a true friend to the Queen and get her behind the idea, she would be an invaluable asset in affecting that kind of change. I mean one of the most central tenants is the peaceful transfer of power. Having the Queen onboard would be a symbolic win to say the least...

BeanerOO

It would fill me with a certain grim, if doomed, hope if this democracy put in place managed to correct some of the mistakes the USA's founding fathers made in their designs. Forget the Senate, only proportionate representation in some equivalent of the House in which districting is done away with in favor of a popular vote with the # of winners proportionate to the region's population? Builds space for more than 2 parties and incentives for representatives who actually try to do their damn jobs lol

Trevayne

That is a really good question. Thinking about it, I expect it was still more getting rid of slavery. I don't see how a toddler could ask a question that would get a Fae to think that the memories of a democracy-supporting weapons engineer were the best answer. Although, from the Fawe perspective it might have been the most entertaining answer. For that matter, given that we have seen William's perspective on eliminating slavery several times over the course of the story and this is the first mention of democracy, I wonder if the priority is still eliminating slavery and democracy is being put in place to prevent backsliding. That way no future Blackstone can try to reverse things.

mike wade

I love will, but damn doesn't he wake up and choose violence. You got be certain kind of special to reference the French revolution as your future prospects.

Blue Fishcake

Ha. Haha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. :D

mike wade

Will should really use his talk no jutsu on the queen to convince her of the merits of democracy. The woman genuinely dislikes her job, she'd probably be thrilled to set up a monarchy/ democratic system. Or maybe he just wakes up with revolution on his hyper-fixative mind, and nothing will even cross the narrow tunnel that is his vision.

Andrew Lechner

Iraq, Afghanistan, the 1st couple French republics, much of Latin America and Africa. In these countries, democracy was imposed either through conquest or through an revolution originating from a counter-elite. This resulted in a lack of buy-in from the general population, which deeply hurts their legitimacy and allows for non-democratc transfers of power to be more acceptable for the populace.

Lanze

I think you have "predictions" instead of "predilections". An easy mistake to make!

Jonathan Gibbons

Galileo had to actually do more to factor air resistance out of his experiment design than just "same shape"; he needed two objects heavy enough to not get close to terminal velocity but of sufficiently dissimilar weight to show the relative lack of effect. It's not that heavier things always fall faster, it's that being heavier gets you closer to the acceleration of gravity without air resistance and substantially increases your _terminal_ velocity. The tower drop experiment was not measuring terminal velocity, it was measuring acceleration over a distance - terminal velocity for those objects would have taken something like a kilometer of fall distance to achieve. A plane, on the other hand, is starting much closer to it's terminal velocity and brings much of that speed into it's dive. Added to that, a shard can be lighter-than-air depending on it's ballast tank fill level - if the other shard's doctrine is suboptimal, it could weigh the same as a feather in air and not get anything at all from a dive. On the other hand, a much heavier airframe and deliberately emptying the ballast tank before the dive could be very effective.

mike wade

She can still threaten to assassinate her. She still has some fuck of invisible assassins. Though that would end poorly for her.

O

I also enjoy that you didn’t jump straight into the fact that the basilisk is a great in a dive, but hinted at that a few chapters earlier.

Jonathan Gibbons

Mass absolutely factors into freefall speed, the important number is the weight to drag ratio. A spherical balloon and a cannonball of the same geometry fall at different rates in an atmosphere, to get to the "gravity makes things fall the same" you have to take two kinda-heavy things where one is much heavier than the other and observe that they are fall very similarly. Mass doesn't have much impact on level flight, though, because _that's_ the drag to engine thrust ratio.

O

I appreciate you keeping things within the realm of possibility. So few people do that.

Mikołaj

Now after we learned that William wants to introduce democracy I wonder what wish was the harrowing starting point. To make the world a better and more equal place? To give power to the weak?

Horan

France, only until the tird republic started to educated its youth into the "roman national" that the regime stabilised. The first and especially the second failed because of it wasn't from the bottom. Even if the second also failed because it immediately alienate part of the population (city wirking class and socialiste) as soon as the power was overthrown.

Jonathan Gibbons

I mean, honestly, if he takes the _sane_ route from here rather than the "all the guns" route, he convinces the queen under not overt military threat to institute effective (but not necessarily official) limits on her own power and pass most of the effective ruling to a more democratic body while remaining the ceremonial-and-arguably-real head of state. Keeps the royalists happy enough, makes the non-royalists happier, and if he can be okay with it himself, removes most of his impediments to banging the queen.

Jonathan Gibbons

Air drag's impact on the final speed of the aircraft does depend on the mass, though - higher mass with the same surface properties means higher terminal velocity, because while the mass factors out of the kinetic and potential energies it doesn't factor into the air drag. Double the mass of the shard and _in a dive_ you halve the air resistance per unit mass.

Andrew Lechner

Wouldn't the aether gas make this less of a factor? It's naturally buoyant, so shards would weigh much less than an equivalent conventional aircraft. Do they weigh shards down with water ballasts as they do airships?

Jacob

To take the sting out of all this William might try to molify the Queen a bit by gifting her a gramophone and perhaps a few records of Mozart and Beethoven? (Plus the Queen showing it off is good advertising)

Jacob

Given the lack of other ways the Queen can reprimand William, she might "suggest" to Griffith that Team 7's training regimen be a bit more... intensive for the next few months.

Apeoflight

You are right but you're assuming a few things. First off does the Basilisk actually have a slower acceleration or do its twin engines/mithril cores mean it has a comparable or even faster acceleration? We don't know which it is just that it can't turn because of its weight and seize. We also have to consider that anyone tailing them is also going to be shot at so they will most likely have to be maneuvering and losing speed to that as well.

Jacob

I'd be curious to know which historical examples you're thinking of when you say democracy fails when imposed from above. I'm not arguing with the point I'm just curious to know more

Jacob

Kerbal Space Program is a great game to use to test these theories :-D

Jacob

With Olivia on William's estate he's effectively shielding her from being used against him by the Blackstones or the Queen. But I can definitely see the Queen trying that if she has a son available. She needs to put a leash on him and if she can't marry a daughter to him then marrying a son to Olivia might be the next best option in her mind, and he'd have very little leverage against such a move if Olivia was amenable to the match.

Jacob

As well as Marline, given her last conversation with him on the topic

Blue Fishcake

As it turns out, I was just plain wrong. My high school science teachers would be most disappointed :D Made a few changes. Now William's basically just talking about the basics of boom and zoom. Fly straight; don't turn.

Blue Fishcake

Welp, as some people pointed out my theories on mass and drag weren't quite held together by science after researching the topic some more. To that end, I've made a few small adjustments to the text so that William isn't casually suggesting the shard should be capable of violating the laws of gravity :D

Andrew Lechner

So, William really does intend to go against and overthrow the Queen in favor of a democracy. That would probably be best accomplished by the way Ceasar and Napoleon did, by leading an army in service to the current State so well that his personal acclaim and loyalty from the troops eclipses that of the status quo. Even better if the queen recognizes the threat William poses too late and issues him an ultimatum that forces him to cross the Rubicon as Ceasar once did. The tricky part comes once he's actually in power. William wants to create a democracy, but as history shows, it is near impossible to create a stable, functioning democracy when it's imposed from on high on a population with little to no prior want for it. As such, William should probably retain full dictatorial power to start, before gradually delegating power to newly created democratic institutions. If all goes well, he'll be able to live out the final years of his riegn as the figurehead of a constitutional monarchy, which he may pass on to his kids, or establish a republic before he passes.

k

I think what bluefishcake is describing is that when you go into a dive the induced drag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift-induced_drag is removed. Which is more of a benefit for the heavier plane.

Oreo-belt25

Ooh~ this was indeed a fun chapter!

Blue Fishcake

I'll go back and clarify things somewhat.

Amit Gupta

The understanding here seems to be a bit incorrect. When Potential Energy ( m * g * h ) and kinetic energy ( 0.5 * m * v² ) are converted between each other, since mass does not change, and gravity is somewhat constant, only the height matters. So, all that matters is the design of the ship. (Air drag also does not depend on mass, rather it depends on surface area, shape and velocity). Ofcourse you can just say that this world has different rules, but then the understanding William has should be based on earth laws.

Redacted

I think what the queen is really annoyed about is that she's lost a method of control over Will. With his sister living in his estate, she won't be able to threaten her to get what she wants out of Will as easily anymore.

NobleBoy24 .

Wait… democracy? Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!

CW

I do hope the twins help play a part in getting more Will and less George out of our mc

Borisoff72

"Obstacle to Democracy?" Sure, and Napoleon was a loyal general of the Republic.

Cormac

Galileo demonstrated that mass does not affect acceleration due to gravity centuries ago. The forces in level flight are gravity (which is the same for both planes), thrust from the engines and aero drag. Gravity and drag are working against the planes in this condition. In a dive, gravity (which affects everything equally) is now working with the planes, but the other forces are the same. So the aircraft that is quicker-accelerating in level flight is still quicker. If you were to take a Spitfire and Lancaster in level flight at say 200 knots, then pitch both into a 20° dive and go to full throttle, the Spitfire would hit the ground first.

Phlojem

They know it's someone who has the pull to order around academy guards and an instructor. A House Royal instructor Given the rumors around Williams creation of the Kraken Slayer and the fact the girls view him as an inventing genius, I'm sure they'll be able to put two and two together

Blue Fishcake

A heavier plane is less affected by wind resistance. Whether the increased drag from the increased size nullifies that is relative. Plus a heavier plane typically has more powerful engines, but in a dive it’s no longer fighting the increased weight. At least, that's my understanding.

MarakEvans

So... what option does Yelena have as counterweight to William's schemes? Clearly, Olivia is the pressure point to influence William. Maybe betrothing one of her sons to Olivia? Enticing Olivia to leave Redwater and live in the royal palace? Also... Who is this mysterious spy reporting to the "old oppressors?" What options do they have to influence or... otherwise... Shit. William might get himself summarily executed like a lootbox piñata...

Cormac

Why would a Basilisk being heavier than all other shards make it quicker in a dive? Mass has no bearing on freefall speed: the critical factor is aero drag. And the much bigger aircraft is much more draggy than the smaller aircraft.

Bas van Lissum

Ohhhh run william! Ruuun!!

werotan

Damned if you do...

Trevayne

I agree that both sisters should be named there. I also wonder if the sisters will bother to do more research into who "she" is or might be. After all, if they are looking for a political ally, they should do some research and try to figure out who his patron(s) might be. They already know he doesn't like the Blackstones.

The Fire Piper

Oooh! I like the twins! Collaborations are exciting, and having them fall head over heels for William for beyond just ambition would be fun to watch!

Blue Fishcake

Fixed, thanks :D

Trevayne

I think both sides would prefer to win without it going hot. Neither (except New Haven) wants to really damage the kingdom because that would create an opening for the Solites and/or Lunites to come in and try to take over. The whole Blackstone plan was to win without fighting by ensuring the Crown would lose. The problem is they would rather a hot war than give up slavery.

Marius Petrauskas

great update, thx.

Trevayne

How rare is literacy? I know the society is a mix of medieval with magicpunk elements, but Verity's family were slaves and she at least is literate enough to attend the academy. Or did she get put through a prep school before attending?

Phlojem

Great chapter, as always. Minor thing, not long after Griffith leaves with William, you have the twins say this: “I don’t know about you, but I’m a little worried about who ‘she’ is,” Marcille said quietly from her right. “Yeah,” Marcille breathed.

Blue Fishcake

Fixed, thanks :D

22junk

Maybe they’re both hoping to win the cold war before it becomes officially hot. The queen mentioned earlier that the Western rhetoric about wayward territories concerns her. Better to show the North that she’s got the bigger tits and have them fall back in line than waste blood and resources fighting it out.

Random Information

predictions -> predilections

Ohmps

Basically on time still

22junk

Thanks for the chapter. It occurs to me that William should fix the “literacy is a rare privilege” problem at least a few years before he touches anything democracy related. Step 1: Invent printing press Step 2: Privately fund public schools Step 3: Slowly introduce pro-democracy ideas through anonymously authored pamphlets. Steps 4: Fuck it all up and fall back on violent revolution.

Trevayne

If he isn't going to try that, then what stops the Blackstones from leaning on and "backing" Plumgarden, for example. For that matter, I thought the Blackstones had to have a claimant to back. If they don't have his sister or Plumgarden, what is their justification for getting involved, if he has a claim from one of the twins?

Trevayne

It is also interesting to see that William does have plans and goals beyond ending slavery. The mention that he wants to keep chemical propellants in reserve is an indication. The problem with this is that the spell-bolt guns already show how chemical explosives can be used to power a projectile. Extrapolating it to artillery is straightforward. That cat is already out of the bag. If he really wants a hole card, I would suggest actual high explosives like TNT.

Blue Fishcake

Fixed thanks :D

Blue Fishcake

What follow on plan? The one in which he'd form an alliance with the other candidates and take his cruiser plus up to two other airships against somewhere between a third and a a half of the Blackstone fleet? That plan? :D https://youtu.be/XC8qrH3Zwog

Trevayne

Great update, but I have to ask, why wouldn't William ask the Queen about his follow on plan to neutralize the threat posed by the Summerfield duchy falling into Blackstone control? His sister is a potential threat to the crown because she could be used to get a claim on the duchy. With Blackstone backing that could lead to the Crown losing a civil war before fighting it. However, if William can marry one of the other claimants and successfully press their claim, then the Duchy stays loyal to the Crown. Given the discussion he just had, why wouldn't he be interested in discussing the other claimants with Yelena? She probably has information and insights that he doesn't have access to. In addition, just disclosing the idea to Yelena, will help remind her that he is on her side (at least until slavery has been ended).

Skulldragon7

because her best attempts at giving him an -> because despite her best attempts at giving him an

Carlos Torres

William / George does not see the queen as an overlord or an equal. He's put her in the to be determined pile before placing her in the tool or obstacle pile. That's kind of the sociopathic shit that I'm here for.

Andrew

Thank you!

Stormtrooper

Too sleep or too read Blue Fishcake's next chapter. I bet you can guess the answer....

Blue Fishcake

Welp at chapter sixteen of book two, we're now officially just over the halfway mark of the second book :D

Skonnchy

Hell yeah


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