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Sexy Steampunk Babes - Chapter Fifty Seven (Rejected/Non-Canon/Draft)

🕑 Added 2024-12-14 11:22:58 +0000 UTC

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Basil Harpham

Where's chapter 56??

MarakEvans

And the refreshing begins

Blue Fishcake

Beta readers have it and it's now twice as long as the original.

Conrad34xdsa

https://youtu.be/DykZEOV5wD4?si=Bh2ZUheiAlRTXEv9

MarakEvans

Synopsis: If Day: Will Chapter: Yes Lol

MarakEvans

Remember the other Non-Cannon Chapter? 19? In another universe, there was a noobtube war. What if it was shotguns instead? BEHOLD, the Alof. https://youtube.com/shorts/ci_9d32cXvM?si=14kzdNuodpapnyt0

Found&Lost

It's also potentially stupid. If the enemy keeps their nerve they invite defeat in detail AND in a tactically disadvantageous position. Flanking the enemy is awesome, but these don't seem to be turreted ships. They can fire out of each broadside and have the height advantage.

Trevayne

Thanks for keeping us informed.

Found&Lost

Damnit

Blue Fishcake

Should be either Saturday or Sunday.

Random Information

No. A plan by Lunites -> A Lunitic plan.

Spintool

Ludacris*

Conrad34xdsa

So Blue just for clarification sake. Will this rewrite Contain a better version of this battle or will it be like chapter 18 where you were fixing a pacing/escalation issue and adding an extra chapter to bridge the gap? Also, Will we get a chapter this Friday or Saturday? A one word synopsis of the plot of the next chapter would be appreciated. Good luck with the rewrite.

Random Information

I can see the problem with the chapter: the enemy plan is Lunitic.

Dancingrage

Hm. I can see how this would pose problems right out the gate. Like we missed a few things between the last chapter and this one, even though there was one, maybe two tiny hints this was coming. The perils of writing to a schedule like you do is occasionally you run into moments where you start an idea and realize halfway in that it's just not gonna work, but the muse has you by the hair and you gotta finish at least to a certain point. That said, it's a good snip, and I think it could, in some form, make a return with better timing and some planning.

Conrad34xdsa

I was thinking the same thing. I was wondering if it was also in reference to the kraken shells that are already in circulation. Either way, it’s good to see the royals aren’t as stagnant as the Blackstones say the elves are. I hope that this Idea is refined and expanded on in the “Cannon” chapter.

Marius Petrauskas

nice

Blue Fishcake

Nope. Gambeson is the armor of choice at this point in time.

Lanze

Hey Blue, any characters this would be a good ref for? https://www.reddit.com/r/ImpracticalArmour/comments/1hf4dt5/what_do_you_think/

Trevayne

I agree they can damage subs if they get close enough. However, they have no means of doing that. Not only do they have no means of detecting submerged subs aside from looking down from an airship or shard at shallow subs in transparent water, they have no hydrostatic fuses to detonate the "depth charge" at the correct depth.

Trevayne

Yes, it is the Solites who were going to wait until the RN and Blackstone forces chewed each other up in the Civil War and then New Haven, with Solite support, was going to backstab Blackstone and then finish off the Royals. The interesting question is whether the Lunites were aware of this and deliberately chose to attack now or if they weren't aware and the gambit pileup is an accident.

Trevayne

Fair enough. My interpretation is torn. Reading the story, I get the impression that the RN is losing because of mentions like indecision and ships breaking formation. At the same time, I see a force of 12 ships that is emerging from the water under a group of six ships that was preparing to wreck a group of surface ships, so all their downward facing weapons and bombs are ready. Given that, it is hard to see how the RN loses this one.

Business Casual

The Krakenslayers are still SEA MINES at the end of the day. They would definitely still work on subs, they just would attract said subs to them.

Moonlightwind

I think the draw back to this plan by the Lunites is that unless they wipe them completely with no survivors. Their technology and strategy is leaked and any lost ships are lost cores. That’s not the case for Lindholm, even using the radio it will be completely unclear how they achieved the superior communication, and the cores they lose they can likely retrieve. Granted airship hulls are not cheap or easy to reproduce, but as has been said many a time, the core is what is irreplaceable. I thought it was an interesting chapter but I can see how it might cause narrative problems one way or another depending on what Blue is planning.

Richard Anderson

What you say is true, but thinking in those terms takes a reader out of the story and into the editing office. But as a would be writer of course my logical brain tries to write the battle to suit my narrative. As an ex-navy submarine crew member fantasizing that the 637 class boat I was on taking wing is funny.

Trevayne

IIRC when Stan Lee was asked who would win in a fight between Superman and Batman, his answer was it was up to how the writer wanted the story to go. I could easily results from the described situation leading to a significant win for either side. If the RN keeps its head, the lower force may get pounded, but they can drop bombs on all the surfacing airships and shoot them up while they are trying to build velocity. The RN still has an edge in that they have more ships and an altitude advantage on both forces. That said, if the author wants the battle to go the other way, they could hesitate and lose ships while deciding on an action. At a guess, that is what this chapter suggests, because some of the RN ships are described as breaking formation.

Richard Anderson

It was not a bad chapter, I am interested in how the battle would go once the princess used the radio to issue orders.

Random Information

I think there are two different foreign countries.

Carlos Torres

Wait I'm confused, the Lunites are going to invade now? Not during the civil war?

Hector Haddow

So good, can't wait to see the actual chapter

Trevayne

This was a good update even if it isn't going to be canon. That said, I strongly suspect something like it will be canon, even if it is in the background. Maybe the next chapter shows the Queen hearing about the battle's results and asking to talk to Blackstone. Eleanore Blackstone is going to have an interesting decision to make. I am pretty sure she does not want the Solites or Lunites to conquer Lindholm. She may dislike the Queen and her policies, but is she willing to face the Solites or Lunites by herself because she let them take out the Royal Navy? The Duchess of New Haven also has an interesting decision to make. Does she support the RN against the Lunites? It would make sense since she is a supporter of the Solite Empress and the Lunites are the Solites hereditary enemies.

Trevayne

I agree it seems a bit rushed, but it was certainly foreshadowed by the end of the last chapter when Kanna's Lunite employers told her that it was now time to act.

Trevayne

She is getting there, or it could be that she is thinking about using an enlarged spell-bolt to project a krakenslayer explosive charge at the target. It is not clear if she has grasped the idea of using the explosive powder as a propellant as well as a warhead.

Trevayne

Probably, especially since it looks like this opening battle was expected to inflict serious losses on the Royal Navy. Although the exact numbers are not given for the Lindholmian Royal Navy, it looks like at least 30+ ships. IIRC they had about 36 and some are on detached missions/patrols. We know the opposing numbers are twelve airships (so if the RN has nearly 3-1, it must have at least 30+ ships present). To this, they add 12-13 sub-airships. The RN still has superior numbers and position, except for their six airship detachment that is about to get pincered. However, if those six airships react fast enough, they could still do a lot of damage to the emerging sub-airships. Those have to be moving slowly because they can't manage airship speeds moving through water because the water is much denser. Their slow speed means they are easy targets for the bombs and downward-firing guns that the six RN airships were going to use on the pirate seagoing ships. Whether they react fast enough is all up to the author.

MarakEvans

No cannon? Did we move it to another gun port? Couldn't we just cut another hole with magic? Lol, it was a fun read. Looking forward to the real thing.

Trevayne

The first issue is that the Lunites can not submerge again. Those hasty gun ports can not be easily sealed. All these airship-subs are now just airships. The original orc version had no functioning gun ports and per its commander, could not have them. Effectively these Lunite flying subs are built for a single underwater voyage and then to operate as airships. They need a refit to submerge again (at least if they have any intention of not just sinking). In addition, the Krakenslayers can't be used as depth charges because there is no way to detect the subs while submerged. They worked against Krakens because the mermaid chum, led the Krakens to try to swallow them. The subs aren't going to do that. The main reason they can't be used against these airship-subs is because they will never submerge again, at least not until after the conquest of Lindholm. If that happens, I could see them getting refitted as sub-airships again for a similar gambit against the Solites.

John

so, even if this is not canon, i am assuming that something will happen to the lindholm loyalist forces. sounds like the civil war will be a close one, even with william's otherwordly help

Trevayne

Very interesting chapter, but I do see some weaknesses. Why would any airship have an undefended belly? Presumably, that is where the guns and bombs intended for use against ground targets go. It is very good to actually see some airship combat, but the description doesn't fit the ships. From the very beginning, they were described as resembling flying versions of US Civil War ironclads. Unless they are monitors and I don't remember any references to turrets, that means the majority of the guns are on the broadside. There is just more room to put them there and limited room at the bow or stern of a basically cylindrical ship. Unless these airships look like Star Destroyers from Star Wars, most of the guns point out the side. That means they should be using line of battle tactics like sailing ships. Granted, unlike sailing ships, they operate in three dimensions, so instead of a line of battle, think of it was a wall of battle. Say three lines of twelve ships each or four of nine making up a 36 ship fleet. The lines are stacked vertically, making up a wall of battle. The problem with wedges is that if the most of the guns are pointing to the side, the wedge reduces the number of guns pointing at the enemy. Lines and walls make more sense for ships that resemble civil war ironclads. Now there can be a time to break the rules. Nelson did it at Trafalgar, when he approached the Franco-Spanish line of battle in two lines charging directly at them. It worked because the opposing fleet was not well trained and their gunners could not disable the leading British ships before they reached the Francop-Spanish line. He would have lost if he had been facing a fleet as well trained as his own.

Admiralthrawnbar

One thing I do find curious, that I kinda assume will remain through the rewrite, is that the princess basically already has the concept of a gun figured out. She's already talking about merging "kraken-slayer-powder" with a spell-bolt

Matt Bradock

I mean, a Kraken Slayer would indeed make hell of a depth charge :D

Baron Von Mott

Oh? Then I look forward to what you've got planned! 😁👍

Blue Fishcake

I've never seen someone be so confident - and still so wrong :D

Conor lennon

Yeah I can kinda see why you may have disliked this chapter. It felt like a rush into a battle and made we wonder if I had missed a chapter. Still alright but yeah I agree some rewriting may be best.

Baron Von Mott

As awesome as it is to finally be getting an airship battle, you'll forgive me if this situation suddenly looks extremely predictable: > Lindholm ships will employ radios to co-ordinate retreat and minimise losses. > Also use radio to call in Home Fleet to reinforce, much faster than usual. > Lunites will submerge again to escape superior numbers. > Deployment of Kraken-Slayers will take them by suprise and tear their new subs apart. > Orc ship will get cornered and surrender intact, ultimately drawing William's attention to the Orc rebels and their ideas. > Lunites left wondering how tf Lindholm already had a counter for a tactic that's only just been invented.

Bas van Lissum

Good chapter, really looking forward to see what you are looking for instead, blue!

Matt Bradock

Now I'm even more curious about the better idea you had.


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