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Chapter 152 - I Create, I Destroy

🕑 Added 2024-10-27 19:00:05 +0000 UTC

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87894354

I don't think it's that bad. Yes, he almost certainly could have spent some time to make the security system check for a person's soul / mana signature, instead of checking for a physical key. (Mind you, we don't know much about the key. For all we know, it only works when it's in the vicinity of Jacque). This is guy who knows how to make mythic-grade gear. He could put a more time into improving this hideout. But... that would have taken time. Time is a resource to be managed. He had a choice. Expend time on improving the security of his own hideout, improve his own equipment, or improve Kiri's equipment. It's a question of resource management. Supposed he'd instead chosen to spend time improving the hideout's security instead of Kiri's equipment, and then we see Kiri losing a fight due to her having sub-par equipment. Should we criticise that decision? Should we say that her defeat would be "pretty stupid", and that his decision not to focus his time on equipping Kiri would "feel incredibly forced"? The guy is spread thin. There's going to be compromises. Sometimes they pan out, sometimes they don't.

87894354

Thanks for the chapter. Tiny tiny typos: "The rate of soul energy bleed is vastly enhanced by the daggers' affinities." daggers' -> dagger's "Requires users mana to function." users -> user's

Zach

He likely would have ended up dead anyway, but probably would have been best for everyone if their mentor's could have taken him elsewhere for that to happen. They also likely could have gotten information about his motivation/who he's working with. I could definitely see trauma making Nate much colder than he had been so it makes sense that he could order the execution. That said he's a thinker, and should see the value in keeping that guy alive at least for a little bit.

Zach

Not covering it up puts a lot of power over them into the nobilities' hands. I think the biggest thing is that while the princess might back them it puts pressure on the guild, and beyond that drama like that is unlikely to get handled all that quickly. Clearly others are the instigating force behind idiot guard, and depending on connections they could easily take advantage of the situation to if nothing else greatly slow down their growth.

TechB

"...Koriolos flashed forward in a burst of speed, blade drawn as the swordsman tried to target Nate..." Image - https://i.imgur.com/aXJzONy.png

Bosparan

Thanks for the chapter :) Sooo ... trouble raises its head once again. They truly live in "interesting" times ^^ A few thoughts on the matter and other comments on this chapter; > "This could (and should) have been avoided" Maybe. We're not stuck in the events but (fairly) dispassionate readers with 20/20 hindsight to help us out. Nate is a pretty stereotypical nerd, stuck in a lot of issues he is deeply invested in. I think it is rather fair he would consider the matter closed with the Princess' intervention. Kiri might be another story, but she too is not exactly a capital politics expert. Furthermore, they _did_ make sure to not be caught anywhere the inspector should have had access to. So if they believed the location to be safe - a fair assumption, who expects an officer of the law to take hostages? - they could have gotten away with ignoring the man. Makes me curious, under what pressures Koriolos was working. > Thoughts on Fallout when going public The officer took an innocent man hostage and forced entry into a house owned by a diamond rank adventurer, then attacked targets he was investigating without being threatened. This is complicated by the fact that the only witnesses come from one side but supported by the injury of the ex-professor. And the fact of the location itself. Problem here is of course that with sufficiently muddled waters, this becomes a contest of politics, rather than legal procedures. I'd argue the adventurer's guild is sufficiently motivated to pull major weight, but we also don't know the full weight behind Koriolos (and whether they'll double down on it). An uncertain venture, but has the advantage of forcing public closure if it ends well. Of course, if it goes wrong they basically have to flee. > Thoughts on Fallout when hiding the incident The key problem is, that they do not have any idea who the backers of Koriolos were. While they can keep this quiet to avoid the trouble, they also prevent trouble to said backers, not only leaving them to repeat the attempt, but also potentially adding more ammunition. In other words, they'd probably have to find some other reassurance as a counter-weight, which would basically force them into a faction (possibly the princess' one, and wouldn't it be a fun surprise if she was the backer of Koriolos, aiming for just that?). All things considered, assuming they can secure full guild support, going public might just be the way to go in my opinion, but only time and Ellake will tell :)

Beggar of Freedom

Divines bless your kind heart! And fuck your defense system.

Jason Hardman

The main issue is they didn't involve their mentors, especially after having a meeting with them immediately after their first encounter. After that what follows is fruit of the tainted tree. I have no special issue with the destination this is going to, I just think the path to get there needs some work to not feel forced on the part of Nate and Kiri. Maybe switching up the order of events and putting some reasonable barriers in the way of convenient communication with their mentors or something. Don't think that would fit with him seeking to be a Life Mage though. Maybe if they did involve their mentors and they started getting the guild involved, but Koriolos went off the reservation in a way not predicted, and Nate had a case of PTSD due to Koriolos' behaviour, triggering an out of scale response. It would raise a massive political fuss, and drive a bigger wedge between the noble faction and the guild, and Nate would become a piece in political shenanigans on both sides. I presume after this Nate and Kiri might be sent off to a dungeon to let air clear a bit, at which point the assassin attack will come along and cause issues, although I think it likely everyone survives due to both Nate and Kiri being massively underestimated. If they can figure out who's behind that attack it's going to set off some massive political fireworks I'm sure. It'd probably make Nate a bit more unstable toward nobility and plots though.

Secret Weapons

This is pretty stupid. They put all that work into the defenses of the Workshop only for some lackey to be able to let a random person in this easily? That's absurd. They literally are experts in the SOUL. Jacque having like an actual physical key is beyond stupid, the defenses should just be geared to their soul energies... or mana... or anything besides this brutal set up. The only reason to not do that is so lame crap like this can happen. Feels incredibly forced... I mean, this entire character feels forced honestly, but this part is especially terrible.

Dan M

But they did involve others. The main adventurer crew knew about this, they were in a secure location, Nate just reviewed his own personal security and upgraded Kiri's, and a princess literally told this guy off for not following the law in this case. Koriolos was acting outside of the law for a different master, and abusing his trusted position to accomplish it. He didn't wish to suffer the consequences of failing the 2nd master, so he reattempted at his earliest opportunity. That's exactly what a desperate crooked police officer would do to cover his own ass. Humans are tricky opponents because we're creative and can be unpredictable. Koriolos forced entry through leveraging a single weak link in the vast system that makes another persons day to day life. It likely took every moment of the days between their last interaction and this one to establish a pattern of behaviour for Nate and Kiri that was tight enough to find that weak point. Especially when you consider how little old fashioned walking the pair are doing now. So what you see as impossible confluence, if perhaps viewed through Koriolos' own eyes, would look like desperate effort. 22hr days back to back to back until victory or failure. The burning shame of being brushed aside by a pair of teens who you _just know_ you outrank and outclass. The bone chilling fear of the criminal organisation bearing it's brunt on your own head, knowing you've been responsible for delivering that special flavour of justice onto others. Plenty of motivation to force the point, even against royal orders. I dunno man, seems real enough to me if you start to think of Koriolos as a person instead of a plot driver...

TerrestrialOverlord

While it feels a bit forced I'd argue that both Nate and his sister are traumatized by what happened to Nate and both are denying that they are doing very badly. They think they have delt with it but this might be to bring the issue to a head. Deal with your issues now and stop doing dumb shit like killing a corrupt royal investigator. It might also be a way to link them closer to the 2nd prince to also make that confrontation that much closer..

Kemizle

True but I feel this is where the guild could step in no one said they had to admit to Killing him the guild can take the heat

ReadingObsessed

It does feel very forced.

Dash Marley

They wouldn’t get away killing a law-enforcement officer in self-defense in modern America, let alone in some medieval society where commoners are routinely oppressed as a matter of policy. He gave them the option to surrender and be arrested and they killed a law officer while resisting arrest.

Enthernal

yes, now you have to get deverell. Seriously, it's not his job to figure out, they've allied themselves with experts in the field for a reason.

James Squibb

Meh, serves him right.

Zack

Totally true, but Nate and Kiri are kinda nobility, just without the title. The guild is their backer and they are favored talent, putting them in a similar position to noble scions. Covering this up like the last incident would just invite further investigation when the guy disappears instead of publically laying out how the guy was out of line and attacked important people without reasonable cause.

Justchillin

That'd be the case if the country wasn't heavily corrupted in the nobility's favour. As it is, it'd expose Nate to their games even more.

Zack

Honestly feels like they shouldn't have to cover this up. The inspector guy threatened them, then attacked them, then threatened to kill their employee. All of this after being told off by the princess for skirting the rules for investigators. At this point, they should be able to turn in this guys corpse and get a very nice thank you gift for exposing corruption. Also an apology from the Adventurers guild for failing to protect them or get recompense once again.

Jason Hardman

This is so much nonsense. They should have involved others ahead of this, and had counters and strategies prepared. The confluence of events feels far too forced, instead of flowing from the natural behaviours and reactions to the situation.

GoodMornin2U2

Thank you for the chapter! He had it coming

dakota dodson

The cover up is gonna have to be good this time

Shawn

Easy peasy. Get rid of the body. Create a lie obstruction artifact.

Kanyau

Well... damn. Wanna bet the princess offers to 'make it all go away' if they join her faction or agree to work for her/the royals?


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