Episode 179 - The Inebriated Past Part 3: SDS and the Weather Underground (1/25/18)
🕑 Added 2018-01-25 20:17:45 +0000 UTC It's the third installment of our absolutely original series where Professor Cushbomb gets hammered and teaches us about left wing history. This week, we'll learn all about the radical leftist student movements of the 1960's and 70's, their successes and failures, and how Marx can teach us that post-war America is similar to mid-19th century French peasantry. Come for dirt on Bill Ayers, stay for Matt's patented "tube of Pringles" theory.
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E Joseph Weixel
Mark Rudd had the honesty to acknowledge the disproportionate presence of young Jews in the Weather Underground. By completely overlooking this glaringly obvious fact you've dishonored an important part of Jewish history. Do over and do better. https://www.markrudd.com/indexcd39.html
Smooth Shrek
Nice
Jessica Rios
Let him cook. Damn. Who cares how it sounds?
Jessica Rios
What you said about something being on the tip of my tongue and then Matt articulates it perfectly is why I would join any cult Matt started. lol. Not kidding
Jessica Rios
Top notch
Greg
Fucking banger
Zen Ben
You have to listen on another platform. I finally followed the tech instructions to get the show on a decent platform like ITunes. The Patreon platform is shockingly bad. It is so bad that it makes me wonder if the people promoting it are running some kind of scam and in six months the site will shut down and the perps running Patreon leave the country with all the creators money and all of our donations. With the amount of money flowing through Patreon, they should be able to afford a functional audio stream. I only come over here to post for other Chapo heads. Patreon is a superfund level disaster. Something is not right about this. The hustlers running the site are not investing it in improving their product. They may just be asset-stripping the fan base before skipping town. No one who actually cared about the product would let it be this truly defective.
Zen Ben
You nailed it.
Scot Forsythe
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEImW6ViMdg" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEImW6ViMdg</a>
Takoma
Pringle Theory is great
Tyler Ogilvie
Thanks!!!
Chris B
Go to the patreon overview site for the pod on your phones browser and under the overview tab you should see the link for the RSS feed as well as a text url. Works in Chrome can't speak for Safari.
TV Marty Tonight
woah. i actually learned something, y'all.
Tyler Ogilvie
Hey can someone repost the RSS link somewhere? New phone and can't find the original email... cheers.
Incog Negro
You've made up proud bro ... stellar work my cracka!!!!
Jake
That's a good question. I'm sure someone on the reddit knows. Felix did one I remember
Chris Mackay
Outstanding!!! Where are the other two segments?
Dick Shitley
iiiiiii wouuuullllld liiiiiike a newww episooooooode
Chase Burghgrave
I can't speak for Moses in particular, but there definitely was a political element to the extending of mortgage credit and suburbanization of working class housing. Two quotes from Leo Panith and Sam Gindin's book The Making of Global Capitalism bring out this point nicely: "This was especially significant given that one major response to the urban riots of the mid 1960s, drawing on the long-standing identification of home-ownership as contributing to social stability, had been to answer the cry of “Burn, baby, burn,” with “Build, baby, build,” as one prominent mortgage banker put it. The extension of mortgage credit to marginalized communities—rather than the renewal and massive extension of public housing—would become the central means of coping with inequality in the decades to come. The basis for the subprime crisis needs to be dated all the way back to this moment." "With investment in residential housing rising eleven-fold in the five years after the war, William J. Levitt, who supervised the building of the paradigmatic working-class suburb, Levittown, declared in 1948 that “no man who owns his own house and lot can be a communist."
Conrad Rushing
Really enjoyed the episode! Question for Matt and the room: did the architects of postwar American suburbanization (I’m thinking Robert Moses) ever expressly link their efforts to disperse Americans geographically with anti-Marxist, anti-Communist efforts, especially in terms of removing that horizontal social connectivity that leads to rising class consciousness in Marx’s view? I mean did Moses et al say so ever, in a speech or memoir or whatever, hitting the “this hits Marx where he lives” notes rather than the “rah rah pro-capital a chicken in every smallhold” notes? That’s my q - thanks for the awesome work chapos, keep going further.
cartoondiablo
Ahem, the "wind blowing" was the coming violence, not the SDS kids.
Frishle
This ep is still on my mind. Like it's one of those times where there's something on the tip of my tongue that I can't quite articulate and then I heard this and it was a total "Holy shit!" moment. I second all the requests to make this public cause it's that good and I want more more people to hear it.
Woke Batou
Amber and Matt are standouts for sure
VYM
just gonna add to the agreement that history/theory/analysis with Matt rules
Elise
The moral is that media is bad ... ? I think you missed something. Maybe listen a couple more times. And if you don’t like this kinda badass love mixed in with yer comedy, that’s a pity but to each her own, I guess.
Brandon Kuhl
This is the kind of thing that keeps me subscribing. I learn a lot from Matt.
Danny Catwell
these are the best episodes. the other gentlemen and lady are solid as a rock but drunk matt is a diamond. i'm trying to positively reinforce this behavior
Howard Kistler
Very good episode, though the rest of my comments are to Matt about the gaming debate. Just wanted to say to Matt, you absolutely won the debate. The surrogacy that gaming provides to the hardcore gamer, and the abstraction from the real world and tangible consequence, is the most pernicious aspect of gaming culture. I appreciated that you also worked in how gaming can function as an opiate and disperse energies that could otherwise be directed toward effecting social change. I say all this with full disclosure as someone who is a casual gamer, and who even wrote games in the past. Moderation and the ability to disentangle gaming from real life are crucial.
Andrew Richardson
Extraordinary ending
@noam_praszky
Really digging Pringle Theory here Matt but for the love of god take a throat lozenge before you start this shit hahaha
Phil S Stein
Well that was worth waiting for!
John S
This is fantastic. Great work Matt.
Mike
I really enjoyed the Pringles in a can analogy
Anthony
So good
TheLatchkeyKid
Great stuff Matt. A small criticism however: your vocal fry seemed to be way worse than usual here, but it may have been whatever mic you were using having an effect. Not sure.
dm
This is fantastic. It starts off strong and only gets better as it goes. Please make it public.
Alex Hobbs
MATT DO MORE OF THIS
mateo de la torre
This made me straight
Elbows Unique
I think this is too important to keep behind the pay wall
Ben Poop
this made me gay
Zen Ben
As a veteran of the SDS, prior to the hostile takeover by the Weather Undergound dead-enders, Matt’s account rings true. Cushbomb is doing a public service with his calm, rational introduction to neo-Marxist ideology and praxis. Good work!
Angelica
Matt, this is the best. Please do more!
JT Ross
the way I had them cataloged they are episodes 66 and 117B
Hamud
Matt definitely the best when it comes to leftist theoretical D I S C O U R S E
BJ Breen
Where are parts 1 and 2?
Robert Trump
Ep rules, easily best of all the drunk histories and the others are good
Michael Barsana
Make it public!
Rhys J
Hell yes it's time for TIP
Tom May
awesome ep, and much-appreciated breakdown of SDS's history, but I would've liked the exposition at the end re: post-war society/French peasantry to be like 3 hours longer.
Daniel Whittaker
insane that this isn't more well known, especially since it is such recent history.
Adam
This is terrific.
Ellen Harold
Nicely done. I think a lot of the 60’s radicals may have been red diaper babies who were motivated in part by a desire to win the approval of their parents, some of whom had been persecuted or had their careers destroyed.
man
Jesus Matt this is excellent. Very informative and digestible as a listener. I vote to make this free if it’s cool with y’all:)
Alex Davis
Make this one public so we can share with comrades!
Michael Hollitscher
a pretty shit article, but the phenomenon is interesting in light of what Cush talks about here: <a href="https://www.nippon.com/en/column/g00455/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.nippon.com/en/column/g00455/</a>
Brian Williams
@Christian *extremely Steve Albini voice*
max viesel
I laughed very hard one time at the pringles line and it was worth every second. Well done Matt
Carson Stones
Matt this was fantastic. What books have you read on the subject that you can recommend?
Matthew Paul Soucie
It sounds tite and who gives a rip about pronunciation you fusty old ladies. Blow 'er out yer asses! Great ep.
Ben Patey
It's beyond just EQ, he needs some kind of de-esser.
Erik Weissengruber
Matt, look into the equalizer function on your Audiomulch or whatever
Ben Patey
The harsh sibilance seems to be caused in part by harsh digital compression and in part by the microphone. Good content though!
Christian Emanuel
It can sound punk without feeling amateur
Christian Emanuel
I disagree with the usage of this audio filter. The S sounds require use of a serious "deesser" and filling back in on the low end. Listening on headphones, the mix is headache inducing.
Mark Chassy
Inebriate listening to Inebriated History is always a good idea. Leaving comment in that state is not ....
Michael Barsana
Nobody cares
Adam Perez
Where is my chapo? No opening song? And the moral he seems to be saying is that media is bad because... Reasons! (not a bad show, just no comedy which is was what I was here for)
Edwin Rodriguez
Matt is a king, a pimp and a nasty hoe. This episode should be become open to all listeners.
Kyle LoPinto
Fucking excellent episode. The reason I came to love chapo is its style of analysis and critique of ideology that makes it kin with Adam Curtis.
ankle_burn
This is fucking excellent. Please make this into a spin-off series matt
@Jai_Cilento - This Underground Life...
GUIDE US FACELESS CELEBRITY AVATAR!...no, i meant that w/sincerity. sz, writing can be flat. so, will you lead us?
@Jai_Cilento - This Underground Life...
33:34 FP-BO AdjHx
@Jai_Cilento - This Underground Life...
whoa. they are...did a lot of things. why arent we taught about this?
Taylor Williams
i would rather pay $5 to hear matt do this than for the regular chapo
@Jai_Cilento - This Underground Life...
didnt they alsop blow ppl up & get T designated? i mean, i guess i can gooogle it...alrite i will
@Jai_Cilento - This Underground Life...
ill unionize for tips
Coleman
The audio sounds punk as fuck. Haters please jump in a lake.
Anthony Taylor
this and the last inebriated past are 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 haven't found the first installment of inebriated past. Going to look again
David Hazeltine
Hard agree.
Julian Fine
I'll add another vote to free this one up.
Shame Dept.
Damn..he snapped.
Jake White
Awesome stuff. As a Chicago native I'm continuously baffled by the horrific/incredibly interesting things that have gone in here in the last 100 or so years
Onalist
Make this free!
Michael Kelly
Did he really not know how to pronounce SNCC correctly? Really? That's bad, fam.
Old left
Please make it available to all. This is the Matt I love... it's why I defend him despite his increasing obnoxiousness. I wish he used that knife-sharp analysis & knowledge in every episode.
David Frenulum
Matt is the main reason I sub. He's very knowledgeable and has a heart that isn't completely frozen solid from coagulated animal grease. Great circulation, some of the best.
Lucas Potter VII
I met Bill Ayers at a talk he gave at my college once. Seemed like a pretty nice guy.
Pink0_narcc
Matt make a frickin youtube channel mane
Edward H
I don't remember the Chapo episode, but he actually talked about it on an episode of Age of Napoleon
Aaron Ross
Hey all long time listener first time shitposter. Please make this a free episode, this is important for people to be able to share. Some spot on Marxist analysis. <3
H.
What is up with this audio quality? Fantastic episode, and almost unlistenable.
Old left
Thanks
Kyle LoPinto
I didn't check but i feel like it was one of the two about the rnc convention so either featuring bropair or murderbryan
Hellohellohellllo
Not. Drunk. Enough.
Denny Check
Check out the episode of Age of Napoleon he did on 18th brumaire, he might mean that
Joey Trimboli
Now that he gets a solo episode, he GETS to record it from the toilet.
Ryan
These are my favorite! Good job Matt .
GhostOfTonyism
I"VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! THANK YOU!
Chuck U. Farley
You're only telling us half the story ...
Chuck U. Farley
Hey Matt ... if you're going to get fucking hammered, you have to tell us what you're drinking. Is this tequila talking? The cheap beer in the squat brown bottles? Wine in a box? Perhaps a motherfucking mimosa?
Old left
Does anyone know which early episode he's referring to? Where he made the point that a class analysis in contemporary America should consider Marx's 18th Brumaire re the reactionary nature of the peasantry?
J0hn
I was listening to this at work and it started playing through my speakers instead of my headphones. I didn't realize and just kept turning up the volume
MShark
I lived that 1960-70s history; spot-on summary, great episode, very valuable, thanks.
Andrew Nice Day
Thank you
Justin Davis
This episode fucking rules
Yale Wyatt
the audio sounds like you've returned to recording in the bathroom.... whats going on christman
Frank Kuo
One of the best episodes yet.
Henry Ross
Insane how you’ve only done 3 of these. By far the best content you make
Keep
I mean let them tell story, I love you.
Keep
Invite your favorite story tellers and let them rip one for you, Matt!
Keep
Make more of these ffs. Invite some story tellers.
Jesse C
sncc rhymes with thicc
vanceknoll
thanks!
Brian Barnes-Cocke
1 hr and not even a single mention of how hot any of these people were. I don’t want an ugly revolutionary vanguard. Was Fred Hampton hot or not? I mean if you don’t tell me how thicc any of these people are what are the stakes? Why do I care?
Ellen Harold
OMG, he doesn’t know how to pronounce SNCC!!
LANCE UPPERCUT
Goddamn this is way better than that fuckin comedy central show
Miles Krause
Dot boys
Adam Cassidy
so much reverb. It's like he's recording in a 12x12 concrete room with bare walls.
SLEAZOIDS podcast
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
James Kellner
Kinda like how the minute Matt gets a solo show he goes back to sounding like he's on the toilet.
Aaron H
The weather was definitely counterproductive and detached from both reality and the working class.
Alexander Corden
SNCC lookin like a snack
Kristofer Dubbels
SNCC is pronounced "snick"
Blake Archibald
Come on lightweight, were 3 minutes in and we are already " wery wery well"
AlienDogStar
For the grey cubs, part 1 <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/inebriated-past-7552147">https://www.patreon.com/posts/inebriated-past-7552147</a> part 2 <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/inebriated-past-11905723">https://www.patreon.com/posts/inebriated-past-11905723</a>
Aaron H
See also Mike Davis's recent NLR article on LA in 1960 told month-by-month.