Seeking a Fren: Episode 5 - Persecution and the Art of the Deal
🕑 Added 2025-01-08 12:00:17 +0000 UTCThe 2016 primary and presidential elections turns the right into a state of outright civil war as only a handful realize the vessel they’ve been looking for is right in front of them. Unfortunately, a shock victory would teach them all the wrong lessons.
This episode draws from Max Chafkin’s The Contrarian and Joshua Green’s Devil’s Bargain. For a full list of sources, check our works cited doc here: www.chapotraphouse.com/seeking
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VIOLETTO
love the line about churches talking about jews like tolkien fans talk about elves
king_von_diesel
The most naive thing about this series, in retrospect, is that the gamer gate saga was a dumber time. Compared to where we are today, we were putting up rookie numbers.
lyle menendez
Holy shit I forgot about Bernie Bernstein! That was fucking hilarious when it happened.
Laura
As in The County Bear Jamboree
kenneth hammond
literally thought the speed on my podcasts got set to 3x speed when I heard shapiro speak in the intro. what an insufferable dweeb. even worse is meeting a guy who adopts shapiro as his new personality 🤦♂️
Martynas Klimas
Probably the best episode ever.
Violet Lucca
It was perfect, just like Christine’s voice
Wagner Koop
B O N F I R E
Wagner Koop
POV: Centipede Drop Denial (HOT)
Arid
Glad to hear about Roy Moore's race! It was such a wild episode in Alabama politics. Not mentioned was the main reason Moore won the primary. Luther Strange very publicly traded not prosecuting Gov Bentley on corruption charges for the senate seat. The corruption was overstated; he was fucking his secretary. Strange argued that her salary was therefor embezzled state funds. So everyone in Alabama saw Bentley resign and do community service doing free dermatology screenings, and Strange become senator
Arid
That's such an insane thing to admit on a huge show
Skwerral
It sort of melted my mind a bit. Also that RLM episode was hilarious.
William Engels
I have never seen someone do that in my life
bruce moment
I will say it should be noted that the big jumping off point of Pepes from Rand to the trump campaign is when Rand came out as anti confederate flag in the wake of the Charleston church shooting
Joseph O'Brien-Applegate
Pixar’s Sodas
Bonepile
Felix's Shapiro impression sounds too much like Wallace Shawn
Joel Drayer
In an incredibly funny coincidence the latest Red Letter Media episode has them watching an anti porn video by James Dobson. Worlds almost colliding
Jack Krastny
this is one of the most salient, crystallized, concrete vivisections of our modern era - thank you chapo, felix- this series and the hell of presidents/ hell on earth / are mainstays of my inner monoglub- reasons why i shill out the monthly dough
Cooper Kulpa
Very nicely written and organized.
ploob
Oh sure the ol' Blame-It-On-Your-Bisexual-Girlfriend bit
ploob
I'll take 'Cars Catching Dogs' for $800 Alex
fuzz
Corn cob pipe, red long jons, suspenders, straw hat, scraggly beard. Empty jug of moonshine with 'xxx' on the side, the man blows air into the jug in a rudimentary musical fashion. Thus the bumpkin hoots the jug. Hillbilly type shit
buttface
I guess it's fine to point out that right wingers are weird and distasteful as long you acknowledge in the same breath that they have been overwhelmingly successful over the past 50 years. Otherwise this is just cope.
Darren R Young
Can someone explain what a jug hooter is?
5 inches is plenty
Isn’t Mulan a ftm classic
Beef
I idolized my libertarian brother until 2016, when he said Ben Carson should've won the Republican primary. Between that, this show, and Street fight, my entire world view changed lmfao
Brad Plumb
I'm surprised we weren't also regaled with SPencer's legendary breakdown after Charlottesville. Still one of the funniest things I've ever listened to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVW9bFBtdpM&pp=ygUccmljaGFyZCBzcGVuY2VyIGxlYWtlZCBhdWRpbw%3D%3D
Brad Plumb
Felix is really outing himself as a political nerd here (not a criticism).
hot_local
its so fucking bad bro
Drew McGill
He quite literally stated that it was indisputable that Russia helped at this point lol. He does brush it off a bit later on though. Oh well.
not_today
Does the Patreon app suck or what.
trent
I thought the point he made was that fb helped Trump, not Russia per se
Terrance McDonald
I see the overall spirit of the series as “these people are so weird.” The fact that they are dorks and losers is ancillary
Terrance McDonald
Ok Maaahtt Jah-mez Reeczh
ForWhomTheDoinkBeeps
Shitlibs do
ForWhomTheDoinkBeeps
Turd comment
Adam H.
Shapino and pals do an excellent job of debating against children that don't know anything.
Fernslinger
Fuck yeah! So fun to remember all the crazy shit that went down! Plus, Who knew Felix was good with a script?
THEKILLERWHALE
Between Amway, Blackwater, school privatization and the fact that they are genuinely onerous and stupid people, they may actually be the worst family on the planet.
GnarlyRaeJetson
Forgot how weird and ridiculous shit got for trump the last go round. These next 4 years finna be a doozy
Terry Buckley
its a name, you can say it however you like
Garth Hillsborough
That Milo-Rogan clip was fucking vile, jesus christ.
Matt James Rich
Betsy Devos, pronounced "Duh-vahs", not "Deh-vohs". It's a Dutch last name, not Greek.
Justin Buell
I am 12 years old and learning all this for the first time. Great stuff
William Hubel
Best episode yet
Daniel Daughhetee
I work for that rich Birmingham suburb mentioned in the Roy Moore discussion! I was pumping my fist and honking my horn
cboss
Thank you for the astute forensics in the tone we need.
robert ryan
I’m still kind of consider this to be more of a companion piece to on the medias “the divided dial” which premiered two years ago and covered much of the same topics https://www.google.com/search?q=on+the+media+2022+cobservativr+media&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS721US722&oq=on+the+media+2022+cobservativr+media&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgkIAhAhGAoYoAEyCQgDECEYChigATIJCAQQIRgKGKABMgkIBRAhGAoYoAEyCQgGECEYChirAjIJCAcQIRgKGKsCMgkICBAhGAoYqwLSAQkxMDQzMWowajSoAhOwAgHiAwQYASBf&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
robert ryan
I don’t think the Russians really did anything that swayed the 70,000 least excited Trump voters away from Hillary. This wasn’t like 500 votes in Florida. It was something serious enough that the fbi investigated it for two years and sessions recused himself but they were never going to find a smoking gun either.
Kvvvy
The Milo-Rogan exchange is bananas
Kvvvy
Once again, Felix one liners are unmatched
Joe E
Broke out in a huge grin for that Phantom of the Opera needle drop
buttface
i tried to like this but it's impossible to follow and i believe it's ultimate conclusion -- that the conservatives are hapless morons who were doomed to fail -- is wrong considering how much they are owning right now.
Michelle
“Girlfriend in a Coma” after bringing up Jeb!’s failed campaign was inspired. A+ would clap
etienne
I love that section about the first few days of the Trump admin where you have to assume the point of view of someone that suffered a severe concussion and thought that he would enact the Richard Nixon agenda
Mark Schneider
Perhaps a subtle tribute to the fascist, Koch-owned Wisconsin governor, a different Scott Walker, who destroyed unions & collective bargaining in that state c. 2012-13. Not important enough for his own segment (I think he did run in some R. primaries for Pres., went nowhere), nod & a wink.
Leonardo Restrepo
Weeeeeeeeelllllll
Ryan
The Andrew Lloyd Webber reference when introducing Trump's campaign did not go unnoticed
Instantdumbass
The drake sample
mariol struga
internationalist movement of nationalist lmao nice one
christoph.s
At around 1:34:23 Eric Prince is Betsy Devos Brother not her nephew.
christoph.s
Loving the series!
Julian Perez
I can’t believe he mentioned Roma Downey as Dobson’s wife and didn’t mention she was the lead in the show “Touched by an Angel”
K H
Of course he is ma'am.
Bill Vog
Forgot to comment on the fact that this is so great. Felix shines here, he's so funny off the cuff and just as funny scripted. Loving this
Drew McGill
Do we actually think Russia undeniably helped Trump? They made a few shitty memes that in no way helped lol. Maybe something more substantial came out that I missed since I really stepped out of russiagate bs. I’m genuinely curious now because I didn’t think the Chapo boys were one of those dweebs.
g haslam
dunno the reason for the handful of scott walker drops in these episodes but i sure do appreciate them!!
J Christie
I've only watched that show because my bisexual gf. I didn't grow up with Elton because my dad thought he was gay.
Justin Thomas
Keep up
Sean Green
as in blowing into a jug like a musical instrument
Craig
Omfg I forgot about the Trump centipede thing! That was 8 YEARS AGO!?!
Matt James Rich
They've been very generous these last couple months.
Goff Costello
Oops all Wayne Tedrow Seniors
William Engels
>the guy who interrogated Bane You mean the one and only CIA?
Ben
So good
William Engels
wtf does that even mean it's ungoogleable
Zen Ben
This series has triggered more political engrams since Hell of Presidents. I remember all those wretched people and can be reminded with a twinge of all the damage they inflicted on the body politic.
tapwaterskeptic
The crossfire clip is iconic - I remember seeing that on YouTube in 8th grade and instantly becoming Jon Stewart’s strongest soldier.
Clark Stoehl
The centipede needle drop sent me into a flashback fugue state. What the fuck are the last ten years
K H
Lil ass boy. How is your zoomer ass even watching JoJo's Bizarre Adventure dumbass?
trillhouse
I started taking a shot every time Felix says “jug hooters” and now I have cirrhosis.
Jack Gude
Hey this shit’s kinda good
Max Seuberlich
Tiny Dancer by Elton John
Evan Pitkin
An immense heap of Felix brand slop. Thank you very much! This is my favorite companion series to chapo thus far!
J
Fuck how could I forget… “Jeb is a MESS. Jeb is a WASTE” find those Vic Berger videos if you’ve never seen them
J
The hilarious republican primary in 2016 was what first got me interested in politics. I was just starting high school and Vic Berger’s videos of the debates were so funny I started reading the news. I can still see kasich getting off his tour bus and waving to a crowd of nobody LMAO.
ezra
Banger
John Leavitt
This series is the most I have ever listened to actual right wing media and dear god how do people stand this it sounds like shoving cats into a shredder while whining
Brendan Costello
For a minute I thought Felix was using an AI voice emulator (a la Elon /Adrian Dittmann)
Tyler Sutherland
It's kinda nuts that I look forward to this more than the main show lol
Kompy
"Wily Hobo John Kasich" line of the episode so far
Declan Kennedy
I've already been enjoying this series but this episode really whips
Alex Lorden
Hope you turn this into a book so I can give it to my lincoln project pilled dad
Rusty
The fact that I was ever fell for that anti-SJW BS is a shame I've carried for a long time
Sarah Camino
Insane nostalgia hit when Centipede dropped
Evan
It's a salve for the monotany
Keith Huston
I also listened to this in one sitting while filling out a spreadsheet 😭
Richard Cochnar
Tiny Dancer by Elton John
etienne
love too hear zoomers do nostalgia for Portal to Hell moments like the pandemic and the '16 election
Jim Chapman
The Erran Morad interview with Roy Moore was classic. https://youtu.be/3kaJaDx51iw?si=vIPdfIwMdWj8VOqi
Michael S. Judge
"Butt thugs" has me thinking of Benghazi as another instance of Ray J Through History
J Christie
What's the song played in the outro?
Tim
Over 2 hours? Is it my birthday?
Donnie Stellmaker
“I don’t blame myself”
Evan
I'm loving the new series, Felix. Thank you for your hard work. It makes filling out spreadsheets a lot less monotonous.
Shane-A112
love me my 2 hour chapos to chill and shit on company time to
NYCM&AHole
Gloryhole in the washtub
etienne
^ the Skiffle Bluegrass Expert has logged tf in
The True Horror
Hell yeah lets go
Danika Lagorio and JDawg ConLorde
To make a washtub bass, you have to put a HOLE IN THE WASHTUB!!
The True Horror
We're the bears who sing for duke, dooo da, dooo da Drinking moonshine til we puke, alllllll the dooo da dayyyy
Dan
Loved the timing of the “Nice for What” lyrics😂
NYCM&AHole
Private equity, not venture capital. Private equity strips something that’s been built already. Venture capital loves juicero
etienne
it's when you have a band where one guy plays a banjo, one guy is raking a washboard with an empty beer bottle, one plays a bass made with a round steel bath tub and a broom stick, one guy wears a barrel with suspenders, and the lead soloist plays whistle with a whiskey jug, and all their songs are about carrying a bindle on the railroad
Danika Lagorio and JDawg ConLorde
All of this tracks.. except wtf is a "jug hooter"
Coleman Cox
Felix sees a spider at 2:22:32
Daniel Dermont
Columba bush is not Colombian but I wish she was
Andrew Fedje, Conduit of Corn
Never thought I'd hear Knife Party on a Chapo episode.
Ralley Taura
Us gals gotta stick together in this world. 😅
Ralley Taura
Same. Lol
Sam Bondurant
Good lord that Roy Moore-Drake drop is an all timer
kiteme
great episode
David Brown
Wily hobo John Kasich
Adam J.R. Tallman
Very very good.
Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice
After all this time I'm still not clear on who this Benjamin Ghazi guy is or why he's had such and impact on American politics.
sarah
Phantom music sent me reeling LMAO
Joe S.
To be fair, "you're a good comedian but your lectures are boring" aged far better than pretty much anything else said in that interview.
JD Nonce
When Ben Carson was rambling about ‘excuse me for this but I’m not one of these politically correct people’ only to start complaining about the deficit I choked on my warm soy milk
kiteme
hell fucking yes
bruce moment
The phantom of the Opera drop made me so happy. The man himself would be simply thrilled
Niko
That voice after the intro haha☠️
Saying Monty Python Quotes In Lieu of Conversation
Felix starts speaking at 00:00:01
Akumeoy
first