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Seeking a Fren: Episode 6 - Groyper’s Delight

🕑 Added 2025-01-15 12:00:10 +0000 UTC

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Koshin

Coming back to listen to this for no reason in particular

Jon W

Strong desire to hit Felix with a brick after that "Houston gays" line.

FDRomanowski

Thanks!

cosmia

seconding everyone else in these comments who loved those scott walker cuts 😙👌

cosmia

fireworks by mitski!

Shauna Seroquel

Whoever did the music picks for this series: MARRY ME! Great throughout, loved the Scott drops, but ending with the mickey-fickey Style Council? You could have just done well, but you did Weller... Wow.

Chuck Skooch

why this not in the collection?

James Browning

Scott Walker!

Zora McBride

Heys guys, am a new fan but loving your work!! I was trying to grab all of these, and wanted to let you know that this ep's not in the Seeking a Fren tags/on the main mini-series page. Thanks for all the incredible excavating and entertaining. :)

Simon Rosenberg

Fantastic ending

Chapo Trap House

on set!

Zackary Kelley

I feel like it’s wishcasting saying fascism isn’t that popular, Dems are trash but we’re completely cooked on the whole now, it’s over.

5 inches is plenty

This series is great because it’s like listening to Felix monologuing about his autistic special interest topic while I do the dishes

Hardcore Virgin

I agree with John A and he does a much better job at explaining this than I do. But I feel like thumbing my phone. So. To respond specifically to what you asked. Does this need to have its arms wrapped around the moment? Of course not. However The crew on this is presenting like they do, which is the issue. Let’s take but one example. The Normal Whites thesis. It probably holds during midterms bc maybe it only applies to the “normal” subset of middle to upper class “whites” who pay attention to politics and would therefore more likely participate in a midterm election. But if another of chapos ideas, that voter turnout favors the right now, that would also suggest those numbers of normal paying attention to politics whites are actually decreasing. Which again runs counter to one of the thesis put forward by the show. The country as a whole is becoming more turned off by right wing weirdos who have more thoroughly captured the right writ large. Again. Maybe this was coherent for One Midterm Election but the Shore narrative they’re countering was already disproven when all the rahm troops got drubbed out. This is another mostly correct chapo take (why buy diet when you can get the real thing) Ultimately I don’t even really care. Their college vs no college seems more “arms around the moment” but again. It doesn’t really matter in terms of making this show interesting. I’m glad you liked it bc they gave you a works cited. But to make an 8 hour show for that is kinda weak. I mean I can hate a movie but enjoy the opening credits but I’d really not prefer to have that experience. For notes and suggestions. I wish they had treated the past in the granular fashion they did the current moment. Or they gave the current moment the same amount of attention as they did the past. It just got too poll heavy near the end and again to John A’s point this is where I suspect the “poll troll” was most influential. Maybe part 7 redeems this??? But this episode was by far the worst of a series steadily declining in value. Starting where they did and ending with the death of Roger ailes as the window and then to future cast from there would’ve been my big picture note. I came to these comments hoping that I’d see my ideas presented and articulated in a way that I found satisfactory and a number of listeners have done just that. In terms of stimulating those thoughts and this criticism, the series has provided value. And I’m not mad at it. I’m just not clapping and calling this good or “christman” level. But it is here and we are talking so that’s nice.

Aidan O'Connor

Second episode where Felix mentions the Scotch-Irish What does he know about them that I don’t

sixsceptres

Agreed. A very welcomed treat.

Axel Herrera

Buttface has always been awful. Also, he said he unsubscribed, but of course that was a lie.

John A

Idk, I'd have a hard time if someone would ask me to summarize the argument of the series. So not sure how helpful it is in terms of counter-narrative. But maybe I was just inattentive. Also, the narrative relies so heavily on polling as an index for truth (if you have the skills to collect and interpret them correctly, which it is assumed that the author voice has) that it becomes a massive problem that the poll troll that wrote the script failed miserably at making sense of electoral polling just a few months ago.

Matthew Krueger

Far Right Ethno Nationalist

Matthew Krueger

I will say that having spent the entirety of their existence making fun of Nate Silver, a lot of this was very poll-data heavy. I'm not sure it needs to have its arms wrapped around the moment though (if you can point me to something that accomplishes that more effectively I'd appreciate it : ) because it does the real work it needs to do just by existing in contrast to the narratives most liberals and conservatives have inside of their heads, and therefore the ones most other forms of media have indoctrinated all of us with for decades now. It is, I think, a pretty effective speed run through the last few decades of the conflicts and overlaps of the fundamental tensions between religion and global capitalism on the right. Not to mention the whole thing is worth it just to have that list of sources all compiled in one place. Or, even more importantly, that "outdoor summer hoops" needed to be immortalized in exactly the way it was here.

foreversincebreakfast

Love hearing some more Scott 4 in this one!

Hardcore Virgin

I said this elsewhere. This really feels like they thought their small redwave midterm prediction was the capstone of some 40 year narrative. It is actually pretty baffling they ran with this. Especially considering the volatility of the current moment and how warping these new tech mutagens are

Hardcore Virgin

Correct. And also the scope. As we got closer to the present the scrutiny and the recitation of details became more pronounced. Which would’ve been more enjoyable or interesting had this focused on early 80s America. For example. The 22 Virginia gubernatorial election. This episodes spends like 15 minutes on it. Why isn’t the 78 Arkansas governor election covered in the same detail? The closer we get to the present the more dilated and bogged down this becomes. Ultimately This all feels like an explainer for how you guys said the midterm red wave wasn’t gonna be the jester waxing some predicted. I remember ettingermentum saying something like if Kamala wins it’ll help the thesis. But she didn’t. I don’t think there’s enough here for you guys to claim you’ve got your arms wrapped around moment. As historical analysis this is pretty dull.

Andrew

Great job gang 👍

Studio Novaya

Excellent work thank you

Sam Nelson

Congrats on your new book Felix!!

Callum Manson

I would absolutely love it if the scripts for this series were made available to read! would something like that be possible?

Ascetic Blur

Hitting Jacque with the stray was beautiful.

James Blackmon

Pennsylvania "called for Israel shortly after midnight." My god lol

Charvis Blutchard

“The Seventh Seal” (lol) by Scott Walker

John A

Feels like this actually was two podcast series mashed into one. One is about the history of conservative media, and one about electoral results and polls and stuff. The first one is fun and interesting, the other one is at times incredibly dull. I understand that these histories overlap, but I think trying to separate them, and focusing on the media stuff would have clarified the narrative of the series, and made the listen more entertaining.

Roland

It’s some dumb groyper speak and it’s not clear why Felix chose it as the title

Ryan Eiffert

Fantastic series!!

Dan

Very cool, but did a 5 year old edit the writing on this? Getting motion sickness from listening.

Kainien Morel

Bravo, Felix, on a series that I think can be called, at least, "Christman-worthy." I didn't know if you could do it by yourself (after all, 'Hell on Earth' and 'Hell on Presidents' were at least two-person hosting jobs), but you more than showed you were capable of it, and I look forward to whatever your next project is, even if it ends up just being a start-up tutorial for that oversold A-10C module for DCS from Eagle Dynamics.

K U

Really enjoyed this series. Most I've enjoyed something from the Chapoverse since Hell of Presidents. I feel like I legitimately learned a lot about American politics, and this was deeply funny in a way only reality can be. Felt weirdly optimistic at the end, however I still feel like we're entering an age of Right wing political dominance it will take us a while to escape from due to the absolute wreckage Joe Biden left of the Democractic Party and the media landscape.

doodooass

Liked the series but the central premise of an increasingly unpopular and electorally doomed right is obviously wrong.

ben Corio

Did.. Amy Terese finally get on Chapo?

Mitchell Butler

Need to know who wrote the line about Houston gays, is Amber involved in this?

Geoff Allen

Great series. Beautiful outro on this ep.

Axhole

Rufo as Godrick the Grafted was perfect

Eddy

The Scott Walker and wax tax industrial makes me feel like a targeted individual

concernedmom420

Excellent series, I hope whoever did a lot of the research and writing on this is included in future projects

leonard

great stuff guys. shout out to whoever loaded this up with scott walker songs

etienne

buttface what is your problem these days, you've been a absolute menace all week in the comment section for essentially zero reason

Fabien Cesari

Damn! That was good

Austin Williams

yeah that was definitely what mattered. kentucky teachers are not a socially progressive bloc, but there are a shit ton of them and they mostly loathed bevin.

Austin Williams

Probability that producing this episode required the google search "what is knetucky capital": 100%

Chris Rose

That really how you want your first sexual experience to go buttface?

Tommy

I feel like I'm in a painting commissioned by Patrick Bet-David

Tommy

Sports gambling will solve this

Craig

Man, this series has been so good. I wish I understood what Felix is saying.

buttface

No.

buttface

Eat my ass alan

Ben Chisholm

👏👏👏👏👏👏

Craig

I hate to be the one to say atodaso, but atodaso, a-fuckin-todaso

Jenkum Terry

Scott Walker it's called the seventh seal and is pretty much him describing the movie

Jenkum Terry

Always laugh at girlfriend in a coma music cue

Pat

Amazing ep Felix

FlubHo

Thank you Felix and friends for making my week 💦

Khemith

It's a pretty decent retelling of the overall history of the new right that arose from the anti new deal conservativism and had benefitted from the neo liberal turn.

Will

What's the song used toward the start that sounds like it's based on The Seventh Seal?

buttface

suck my dick from the back loser

Craig

Great series, Felix and co. I wish I was dead

K

Atodaso! A fuckin atodaso!

Adam Murphy

Mr Felix biederman goes to Washington find out everyone is a pedo

Jackie “My Fatha” Jr.

Major props to a hell of a series. Hard to tell this insane story, but it was done magnificently.

Matthew Dunn

Love the idea of an alternate universe where liberals are burning masks, and conservatives are locking down.

Brendan Kneeland

“Josh Hallway” will make me laugh every time

Jonathan G

Felix's pronunciation of "Pat McCrory" is making me feel like he is ESL

Andrew Cross

if something is made hidden or secret it’s occulted. man’s never done a occulted blood test before

Goff Costello

What a miserable comment

buttface

this "needle drop" nonsense has to stop. can't even begin to explain how reddit it makes you sound.

Alan

Shut the fuck up, buttface

Jesse Svetlich

Yes. It’s a great roundup of American conservative history. It’s also funny.

Sai

is this series worth listening to? Been skipping em for some reason 🤷‍♂️

Goff Costello

Mishima score needle drop rocks

bossbear the rock

" godrick the grafted " as a metaphor is halarious , a runt of a terrifying litter desperately grasping for power while trying to prove himself as something more then he is .

hamburglar

some mitski song I think

Christopher Price

ur mom

Eli Navvy

Amazing series, well done guys ❤️

MUNDIAL

Great finish

etienne

I remember in 2016 or so when ppl were saying that QAnon just captured and swamped out every other conspiracy but now I'm seeing ppl out there genuinely caring about the moon landing and flat earth. nature is healing

Luke

He’s doing a malapropism schtick. It’s not really working lol

Axel Herrera

Yes, it’s “doggo”-like internet speak for “friend” (cf. “snek” for “snake”) that came to be used on 4chan by alt-right types to refer to fellow alt-right types.

Rohmer Simpson

I'm in awe of Felix (and everyone he collab'd with) being able to keep this shit straight. Modern US conservativism has to be one of the most chaotic, self-obfuscated, bullshit-clouded entities in the history of American politics. We would be told one thing one day and the complete opposite the next - and not just by cranks, but by the self-appointed "cooler heads" of the lib entities of the MSM. Just the clear delineation of the first 1-2 years of Covid, that fucking hall of mirrors; or neatly thumbnail-sketching of the nature and influence of QAnon..... a great miniseries.

Ricardo Pleasure

"for the rest of your life: go out, touch gloves, and fight."

Joe S.

Creepy racists on Reddit (and maybe 4chan, idk) used it as a dog whistle. I think it came from having their usual haunts banned and having to search for fellow-travellers in whatever random places they scrambled off to. It was part of the weird vocabulary they liked to use so they could recognize each other.

Jonathan G

You are now banned from commenting - The Community

FDRomanowski

hey frens, what was that lovely chune playing at around 1:28?

Nimbly Bimbly As FUCK

She was amazing and amazing!

K H

A feast of slop. This is not a trough but a mighty pool.

buttface

wishful thinking

C. Ries

Why does Felix keep saying “occulted”. Does he mean to say “occluded”?

buttface

yeah, all the best books, films, and documentaries require you to separately research their title to understand its meaning

buttface

true but I don't think those people are listening to chapo

buttface

No. I asked about this in the comments of a previous episode and was assured by many that the title is self explanatory (it is not).

Jonathan G

Google it young player

nick

At any point in this series do we learn what a “fren” is?

nick

Gen z and younger I think, who wouldn’t remember bush, obama, trumps first term.

JoeDotBiz

Great series, next up Will is back to watching movies he likes with his friends

boo

great ep. i too take a small amout of solace in the notion that the political hobbism which replaced sports etc will wane sooner or later

Charlie Moe

I love this series except for Spencer, he's a burden on his friends and family!

Ian H

Oingo Boingo and Paul Weller drops were also sick

Whucko Jaang

I imagine that i am sitting in front of Felix but facing away from him, toward my PC.

Adam Burch

You

William Jarvis

... people who follow politics?

Pat

Read Lee Edelman

Rachel LaBerge

its a cohesive story linking almost all chapo-canon characters. who is this NOT for?

Patron

I like to imagine that I'm in a lecture hall at Chapo University when I'm listening to these lectures.

WhiteChocolatePipe

🎶 ballerina 🎶 you must've seen her 🎶 dancing in the sand 🎶

WhiteChocolatePipe

"She just died? Wow. I didn't know that. You're telling me now for the first time. She led an amazing life, what else can you say? She was an amazing woman. Whether you agreed or not, she was an amazing woman who led an amazing life actually. Sad to hear that. I am sad to hear that."

WhiteChocolatePipe

🎶 pretty eyed 🎶 pirate smile 🎶 you'll marry a music man 🎶

buttface

Who is the target audience for this?

Richard Cochnar

That fucking RBG death response clip makes me laugh til I cry every time I hear it.

Where there’s a Wills there’s a Way

Felix Felix Felix

Christian Bendillo

🎶blue jean baby🎶LA lady🎶seamstress for the band🎶

Brandon

captain olimar ?!

KS

Omg that vault story Lolol

Ardy Rezv

Remember, when a lot of Kamala supporters were getting their rocks off to the idea of Gaza getting worse?Turns out a vote for democrats was a vote for genocide

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

The Republicans lost the battle of Dr. Oz/Fetterman but won the war when having to wear a tie for the first time in his life cut the blood supply to his brain and delivered a depressingly non-lethal stroke to Braddok PA's "shorts in snow guy."

Blank

Lmao at Vegeta reference

GnarlyRaeJetson

Great eps but something missed about beshear beating Bevin. Bevin took hating teachers wayyyyyyyyyy too far as well. Well beyond normal republicans hate for educators