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276 Know Thy Enemy

🕑 Added 2020-06-27 15:42:49 +0000 UTC

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Jonathan

Not that there a no situations where a timely intervention from a rebel could help occurring organically, but I also wouldn't put it past the Espen here to have deliberately herded the Eldritch to this farm in order to set up the emotional rescue.

ducksgoquack

reading lots

Sebas Tian

well its been elaborated by other people including yourself, but I just really don't want Daniel to have to deal with a civil war type situation. Now that is totally in line with human behavior, but I just feel like you are piling up to many problems that he has to deal with to soon. Like I said, its great story wise and I could totally see it happening realistically, I just don't like it very much. So my problem with it isn't that I think it is unrealistic, or poorly thought out or anything like that, I just don't like where I assume it is going to take Daniel and Co.

Monsoon117

Here's the thing about that - everything has been told, not shown. I wanted to give a vivid picture of what the rebels are fighting for. That gives motivation and purpose to their actions. It justifies their brutal methods to some extent, or at the very least, it offers another side to this conflict. That plothole is real though, so I'll be going back to fix that.

Monsoon117

This is what I'm trying to showcase. People are not liking it though, so I'm struggling at what to do to make it interesting.

Monsoon117

Could you elaborate more on this sense of unease?

Monsoon117

To Alexander, the golems will be very, very strong. They will be much harder to find and much harder to take control of than a normal person with a piece of good gear from Daniel. This will especially be true for Daniel's super golems.

Alex R

The Adairs have good intentions, their means are not good though. They are very Machiavellian, the ends justify the means. They don't mind sacrificing a whole planet and race if it means that many other planets and races survive. They are acting very similar to schema in that regard.

Jordan

While Phil may be desperate, I don't think he will truly trust the Adairs after watching the Harbinger's streams. However, he may unintentionally let slip Daniel's location(or have it lifted from his mind).

Regnal

Ok that does makes sense with manpower being low at first. However they did have access to futuristic technology through the Steel Legion when they took it over I think. Just having power armor and guns should put them leagues above the rest of humanity. I just think that if Daniel stayed on earth for a little bit to get his guild more established and able to spread their influence they could have had the ability to do it on their own while he was in Giess. All he had to do was show up in various cities and show how strong he was and there would be half the planet trying to join him for protection. It just seems weird to me that he wouldn't try to help them as he has shown he is willing to help others. Lets face it, there are probably thousands or millions of people that have died to eldritch while he was in Giess trying to only help his guild. It wouldn't be unreasonable at all for the rest of humanity to hate him. Especially after turning such a powerful enemy on them if they find out Earth is his home world. I could see Elysium easily turning all of humanity against him with a simple pr campaign now.

Memoulisous 23

Hmm perhaps you are right I guess we’ll see in future chapters

drag0nreb0rn

I honestly dont think that Adairs are bad guys. I think they believe they are right and hate the current system and are willing to do anything even bad things to win. The victor writes the history books.

Memoulisous 23

So the Aldairs are trying to hurt Daniel by turning his own planet and people against him atleast that’s what I think is happening anyway awesome chapter

Olinn

his guild isn't all that amazing, besides the few heavy hitters that went to Giess. they secured as much area as they could control and maintained that area, but they don't have the means to secure the entire planet, they have outposts that people can join but there hasn't been enough time for post-yawm recruits to get up to speed where they can help spread and maintain the guild's area of influence. at least, that's how i see it.

Regnal

Also something that I have been wondering for a while is what are the statuses of his quests? I think he had at least 2 or 3 of them with various conditions. I can't recall if it was officially stated if he completed them fully or not so I've been confused if the unknown statuses were removed or not.

Regnal

Hopefully the golems are figured out quick with him not having to spend too much time on them now that he has help. Then when he gets the primordial mana and sovereign skill I still think he needs to learn how to warp more than anything now. Especially the fact that he is fighting in space. His bigest weakness is getting stuck in space somewhere and not being able to find his way back. Even if he is near impossible to kill, he only needs to be stranded somewhere to be neutralized. Learning to teleport is an absolute must if he want to be as well rounded as possible. Especially now that he finally is taking it seriously that he is a dimension, warping should be second nature for a dimension to understand.

Regnal

I don't understand why Daniel's guild wasn't already expanding while he was in Giess however. The whole time he was there his guild should have been trying to secure earth while he was doing his quests. It wasn't untill the whole rebellion was exposed that he should have stopped but by then it would be too late. It really doesn't make any sense that he is so concerned with helping the Gialgathens when he completely abandoned his people that whole time. It's just really confusing.

Conor McGroarty

Pretty sure MC has a father figure in Torix so he doesn’t need another. That said, I don’t hate the direction story is going in as author has shown good judgement more often than not. MC hasn’t been spreading his influence and helping humans due to the fact the Adair’s will raze it to the ground if they find out it’s his home planet. Even though we and MC know he is making the most appropriate choice he can make considering the situation, doesn’t make it easy as people will die regardless. Well let’s hope anyone desperate enough to join the rebels will at least have the sense to keep their mouths shut about this being the home world of the Harbinger. At least until MC has bought enough time to get his sovereign class going and preferably after he has his sovereign skill which should be when he has primordial mana and combines it with other stuff. The crabs made with primordial mana taste better so MC will be able to feed an army and have it taste great 👍 . Stuff with entropy should be fun too

thomas holder

i know this potential direction for the plot isn't getting a lot of love, and i think its because we are afraid of Phil becoming the anti Daniel, like some other smart eldritch doing something similar to him. I think the beauty of Daniel as a character is equal parts questions about his being a dimension and an understanding of his earnest character. And a "Nega-Daniel" seems like a cliche that you have successfully avoided so far. Between Yawm and Lehsion, your antagonist's have been very enjoyable, fresh and brilliant. I'd honestly love to see Phil and Daniel become close, maybe he could get some father figure closure with Phil, which will have to be concluded to see his character grow past a certain point. Please don't be disheartened by peoples lack of trust in your vision, but we know you can do great things, and cant wait to see where you will take us, but I'd wager that like me, most of my fellow readers have read some "stinkers" out there. You got this bro!!!

thomas holder

"With persistence, one can one be in the right place at the right time when opportunity arrives." i think its "one can be" not "one can one".

alexander julian

Isn't that a risk if he mass produces the golems tho?

alexander julian

I think he could have a little more depth but I still think it's awesome to see. I imagine he'll be a part of the elysium mission? Maybe as an antoagnisit for Alexander coz it looks like he's about to join. I think mainly it lacks colour sort of thing. He pretty much only wallows in his chapters. There's no thought of stradegy, build or combat wise for when he has to fight the eldritch. They aren't looking to get out of there which seems insane. There's no dialogue with his family. Or maybe like some of ritual his family does to show how there trying to cope and there bond

alexander julian

Alexander and Phil! Yay!

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter. Maybe I'm just tired but something felt odd about Torix and Daniel's talk. No idea why.

Code Reed

Maybe split between all the creator's? Say what you will about Schema, he rewards those that deserve it. Not like Daniel needs them. He's a dimension. I doubt there lifespans are short.

Sebas Tian

Omfg I hate where this is going. Don't get me wrong, it's great story wise, I just can't stand it xD.

Sebastian Prue

I'm not a fan of Phil's storyline. It feels unnecessary and forced. I think the first time he was introduced was nice, providing us a look into what the world is like for the low class and unlucky people's of earth, but after that it was like he was an extra that got rapidly shifted into a side character and that left a lot of flatness in his povs. However that is only my opinion so please take it with a grain of salt

Monsoon117

As for your third point about the dimensional items he can make, Daniel does have a pretty solid reason - he doesn't want Obolis or the Adairs using his skin for research. He's given out artifacts in mass before, but they were from after the Yawm battle. They aren't up to date. Having his current composition known and available for research would open him up for being exploited by enemies. They could make stronger Hybrids with the material, etc. This is how I think of it. I'll definitely take these points into consideration though.

Monsoon117

There's a lot to dive into here, so I'll tackle each of your points one at a time. For your first point, this is definitely something Daniel could've been more proactive with. For the most part, he went to Giess to get him and his people out of being unknown. After that, he intended on helping prevent the gialgathens from dying. In the process, he ended up becoming an enemy of the rebels, and now he's afraid that if he goes out of his way to expand his reach, Lehesion will come and destroy Earth. Lehesion threatened to do so during their fight after all. It's less that Daniel hasn't wanted to help, but more so he's trying to cover his bases first. For your second paragraph, it would take a lot longer than a week to clear Earth. There's millions of miles and millions of dungeons to tear down. Even if he cleared a dungeon in a minute, it would take about 700 days to clear a million dungeons. That's a lot of work for one man, and he's be unable to do anything else. Even worse, he'd have to sacrfice his entire life to help other people with no consideration for his mental health and whatnot. I'll continue this discussion below.

ParoxysmDK

Thanks for the chapter, a bit of a rant coming, but i hope some of my points make sense: I'm both surprised and sorry i have to mention this, but this entire Phil Williamson side plot has been incredibly predictable to me. Ever since you introduced him the first time, i was completely certain he would become a antagonist. And ever since we learned of Elysium i was sure earth would be fractured into the nay and yay sayers. I honestly haven't understood Daniels mind frame when it comes to earth. He's so powerful now, that he could've EASILY cleared the entire world, made his guild big enough to span the entire world, kick out all the other guilds, get people fed, housed, trained, and adapted to the new world. I mean.. He has people who can warp light years away in seconds, why is it so hard to figure out he should unite earth under his flag? Or at the very least do something 'good' for his own race, rather than helping everybody else in the universe? This has been my only gripe with the story for a long while now. I absolutely love it, and i've made that known before; but this specific subject I've disliked almost since his guild defeated Yawm. It simply makes no sense to me. Not to mention there could be multiple hiveminds or worse hiding around the planet. And he wouldn't know at all, nor would his guild. It would literally take him and his guild less than a week to clear the entire planet, i'm willing to bet daniel could do it solo in a few days, as long as somebody warped him around. He doesn't sleep, eat, or stop. He's a machine, and he can literally use magic like a living weapon of mass destruction. Also food, and the like should be no problem, nor transporting the people he saves. He weighs so much, that he could literally use gravity manipulation on an entire cities worth of people, on top of having an entire team for warping. Another small thing i've had a hard time wrapping my head around, why has he not outfitted his ENTIRE guild, or at least all his veterans, teachers, and elites, with items made from his own skin? we've seen how ridiculous anything he's made is, and it should be an absolute cake walk for him to mass produce stuff. He doesn't even need to do most of it himself, he could just provide the 'materials' for other people to make stuff with.

Bob

Yeah, I'm still not quite sure how Daniel managed to acquire the "Superman and God are sh!tbags" trope. But here we are, infinite power, and babies on spikes.

Tatsu

Nice chapter, but the problem I see with exploring Elysium through Phils eyes is that pretty much everything that could suprise us about Elysium (them being nice, helpfull and supporting) is already known. The plot that it leads to a divide between some human factions and the Legion should be pretty obvious. Save for some suprises it only would get interesting once this perspective clashes with Daniel (namely the infiltration and open conflict later). A plot hole would be that you introduced the concept that some (all?) earthlings know that Daniel is from Earth and they watch his live streams to some extend, which would instantly lead to Elysium knowing this as well if they recruit enough humans (one of the recruits is bound to know it). This should then lead to a massive increase of activity on eath. Keep up the good work!

Alex R

If the golem's kill an eldritch over 1k level, does anyone get the year from the level 1000 perk?

Code Reed

Fuck. I was afraid of this. Daniel didn't have a chance to secure earth before heading out for parts unknown. Because of that there's gonna be a kind of resentment in a lot of human that watch his fights. "If he's this strong why isn't he here on earth helping his own kind?" stuff like that. So, there's going to be a divide on earth those that support Daniel, and those that don't. One backed by Elysium, and the other by the empire. Let's be honest, Schema wouldn't support him, not the guys modus operandi. Humans are fractuse by nature, so was enviable something like this would happen. I'm fairly sure Elysium doesn't know that's Daniel's homeworld yet. They found a world New to Schema and thought it a easy place to find more followers. A little safety and security goes a long way towards changing minds. I think the only way the change those minds back to Daniel's camp will be if/when he finishes the Golem project. It's similar enough to Elysium's sales pitch and isn't disgusting to look at. Good chapter by the way.

Monsoon117

This was a challenging but fun chapter to write. I really like exploring the different perspective with this character, and he lets me do a lot of things from both a worldbuilding and narrative sense. Let me know if it was effective and gripping or it fell flat, along with any errors you guys notice that I didn't. Thank you all for reading.


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