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337 Scorched Earth and Shining Soil

🕑 Added 2022-02-01 21:53:16 +0000 UTC

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metzjc

How does building a city here achieve the goals that he was sent there to accomplish?

Monsoon117

I'm glad someone understands that they were definitely not dragons in anyway, shape, or form.

Rubeno

King feels the weight of his crown. Thin is the line between dignity and cruelty. Yawm can be discounted since he was driven to insanity Elysium directly betrayed values they fight for by sacrificing lives for power of people they fight to protect from schema. While those two examples is what Daniel uses as example of what notnto do there is other side of the spectrum where one refuses to do what's necessary despite responsibility of millions of lives. And this is cruelty. Right now Daniel is not motivated by logic but by emotions. And he in comparison to Schell shocked soldiers who retire for calmer life accepted responsibility for people. Most important question lies where border lies thst can't be crossed? Also, Yawm wasn't only experimenting on eldritch but on earth he combined them with humans. Exactly the same what Elysium did with definiteoy- not-dragons.

Monsoon117

Your knife example isn't exactly right. It's more like a soldier throws acid on an enemy, and they fight while the soldier watches the enemy die. The acid gets on both people, but one person shrugs it off while the other person's face melts. Patches of skin flake off. Flesh hisses. Bones expose, and the nose caves in. Facial features pool across the enemies chest, and the acrid stench lingers in the soldier's nose. The fight ends. But the soldier remembers, and he dreams about that fight. The nightmares carry into his waking life. It's one thing to dome an enemy and kill them instantly. There's mercy in a death so swift, but there's no mercy in the killing by acid. After that, the soldier never wants to use acid again. To me, that's reasonable, and even if it lowers that random person's chance at survival, there's dignity in living a certain way. Something else worth mentioning is how Daniel has seen what scrupulous moral boundaries lead to. The exact strain of logic you're using in your argument is how Elysium justified the Hybrids and it's also how Yawm justified his fusion of eldritch and creatures alike. In their attempts to bring about a better world, they create a hell that everyone must live in. Those experiences act as lessons for Daniel, and he's been given a healthy dose of fear for all of that. It's something I've gotten pushback for(You're argument's not harsh or critical, so it's no problem at all), but I have no intention of changing that part of the novel. It's a big part of what makes Daniel unique; he's wary of himself unlike most protaganists. Given his godlike powers, I think a measure of humility is the best possible constraint for him given the few limitations he carries now. This was an interesting conversation regardless of our disagreements.

Rubeno

Hmm I understand your approach here. I don't see this as something bad though mind me I just wanted to discus because it's interesting how my perspective and yours differs that's it ;). Anyway, I can understand problematic situation Mc is situated in from early childhood to post apocalypse times he is constantly in state of chaos and tries to find semblance of control and freedom from fear of becoming a "monster". Yet from logical perspective he does it by shackling his potential because like I said earlier it's less moral problem but emotional one. Soldier will feel less bad by killing with gun rather than knifing enemy personally. And this soldier now refuses to use knife in close combat because he feels it will make him "complete monster". By doing so he undercuts his chances of survival. Boundaries should be instead set on victim of said killing rather than method of killing. And in Mc hands rests fate of billions if not trillions people he can help whether it's humanity, other species or even sapient eldritch not consumed by hungering madness. Going immoral at sapient species is undercutting what Mc believed in (like converting gialgathens to hybrids) but corrupting maddened eldritch into service when it will be used to save lives means thaf innocents will survive. But in the end Mc situation is emotionally hard so I guess even if rationally it's bad idea to limit oneself by setting those limiting boundaries Mc can retain emotional sanity.

Monsoon117

I'd say that killing a mind is different than killing the body. It's like strangling someone with your hands versus signing off on their death. One is deeply personal while one is passive and distant. In this case, Daniel has to be in the other person's mind and kill them off, experiencing all of it. It makes it far more effecting. By choosing how Daniel accomplishes his goals, he's solidifying boundaries with himself so he doesn't end up doing something he deeply regrets in the future. In that way, it's a form of self respect and dignity, something Daniel's struggled to keep since arriving in Schema's system. The lack of permanence in Daniel's surroundings is eroding that dignity, descending him into a boundaryless existence. In other words, hedonistic depravity. Anyways, I'm getting real philosophical here, but I hope my point came across.

Rubeno

I have to say Daniel is silly with his concerns by overusing labels like "monster" etc when pertaining to certain methods. He is shackling his potential by unnecessary worries. It's one thing to slaughter sapient race completely to raise undead. It's completely another to masochistic ally torture self with guilt by puppetting eldritch who are only overcome with desire to destruction. They will die either way and since they want to devour Mc they will be devoured in turn.

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

Blake Richardson

Thanks for the chapter

Monsoon117

You just might, but no promises there.

Monsoon117

It's because he's isolated and also because of what he's having to do. It puts him in a poor headspace for ethical decision making since he's not really in a place where he can make them, if that makes sense.

Marius Giurgila

Man, once you finish this story you could put it as a pdf on amazon. Later you could even get it in audio format. It has the quality to be a success. With a little work it can be on par with Tao Wong and Aleron kong's works.

Connor Alexander

Good god this is what I imagine more modern takes on cultivation are trying to portray without giving strong descriptions. Then the layer of grim dark over the top makes it feel all the more insane and hardcore. Glad you’re back and feeling good Monsoon! It’s immensely satisfying to come back from that kind of headspace :) hope to one day see even crude renders of your story ideas in picture form!

FlawlessMovement

I thrive on this stories existence. Chapter was as amazing as always

Jonathan

But how many tree points are you getting from it?

CW_Alpha_CW CW_Omega_CW

Great chapter, it was great to see Daniel regain his sense of morality, it kinda looked like he was losing it in the last chapter.

Brent Thomas

I'm glad that you're back and in a good space. Love the chapter. Keep up the good work and I'll talk be hear for the next one.

Justin La'von Matthews

Glad to hear you doing good you are by far my favorite author. I'm always excited and happy to see any new chapter from you. Thank you for your hard work πŸ™πŸΎ

Monsoon117

I'm back in a good headspace, so that's nice. Outside of that, I've been having fun learning how to draw. I'm still at the four year old level, but we'll see how it goes with time. It's always exciting to learn a new skill, and I've often found that learning one thing can help with learning another. Anyways, enjoy guys.

the void

Thank you!


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