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AI Wars, hour one

🕑 Added 2025-04-17 17:57:00 +0000 UTC
AI Wars, hour one

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Hi Pointy Rat, do you think you’d be able to watch the section on “art” where I explain the practical consequences of humanism on this debate, to see if that addresses this criticism better? I’d like to see whether I should add more or if the art section might provide a good illustration. Please email me at alex@itsall.gay if you’re interested

Pointy Rat

Hi Alexander, very interesting video. As a full time AI hater, I entered this watch extremely skeptically and I have to say I haven't been moved much. For background, I have a general education in computer science and AI, experience in the performing arts, and no formal education in philosophy. I think you could spend a bit more time on why thinking of "human" as a group is flawed. I absolutely understand your reasoning that historically the label "human" has been selectively applied in order to deny certain people rights; but I don't understand why the antidote to that type of thinking wouldn't be to affirm the entire group of "human" as valuable on the grounds that they are human, no exceptions. This type of categorization feels different than categorizations based on race or sex because the whole point is no person is left out; the second you segregate one person out of the human label, you're no longer using it correctly. Again, I have no formal training in philosophy so I am sure there is a piece of this argument that I am missing, but because I am missing that piece, the rest of your video doesn't really add up for me; I believe that human writing or art is more valuable than writing or art algorithmically constructed by an LLM because of the fact that a human made it, and human life is uniquely valuable.

ValentineSmith

I am hype for the full video. I already really liked the first hour and it's really set up as a slow burn I would say, which I personally like a lot. I felt a very empathetic guidance to the conversation and even to the necessity of critically engaging with the subject matter but also liked the recurring statement that it feels very easy to want to immediately bash on AI stuff because it is being produced and furthered by such criminal/antisocial intent. I especially liked the end of the first hour where it feels like a clear dialogue with leading experts on the field and how they themselves also acknowledge how humanism in the way its used in our critique can backfire. As you allude to, this might really mean that our discourse about the topic has to grow/evolve and we cannot just fall back to old patterns. Looking forward to the rest of it and your takes! I hope you have a nice day and the last crunch goes as smooth as it can go


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