My Monster Boyfriend
🕑 Added 2018-03-01 04:38:29 +0000 UTC This ended up being a way more expansive topic than I realized, so rather than doing something comprehensive I end up touching on a lot of subjects that deserve way more time than I can give here.Also I love how not here for this Kong is in the thumbnail.
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Dab Brill
There's a Spanish performer, Alaska, who is the very embodiment of this trope. Even if you don't speak Spanish, I think you'll be able to get the idea from the imagery. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s82sL-oZGk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s82sL-oZGk</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yinR3tV_eU" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yinR3tV_eU</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMr83RdYMo" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rMr83RdYMo</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH_SL5aDN14" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH_SL5aDN14</a>
Gabe
Lindsay, great video! I thought the tying birth of the nation to monster movies was great, and your Blazing Saddles clip usage was hilarious! Secondary question, will we ever get to read your novel-length starscream fanfic? WIll this be a patreon perk?
Trahbox
I actually recommended that Film to her, when she askes about Fiction regarding that Subject. Still kinda sad she didn't use that. La Bete is on of my favorites, of the really weird French Things of the 70's.
This comment may expose me to scorn and contempt, but while watching your video, I couldn't help but be reminded of Walerian Borowczyk's 1975 film La BΓͺte. Borowczyk dives right into the inherent sexuality in the traditional Beauty and the Beast narrative, thus making his "erotic" fantasy an interesting addition to this genre.
Absolutely pleased as punch with the video - as I am with all of your work. I kept waiting for commentary on Twilight (coming so close to your Stephanie Meyer piece, I figured the monster love triangle would be brought up here) and then, as the Beauty and the Beast versions kept coming, I wondered if the Angela Carter revisions of the story would be discussed. Maybe in a future episode.
Fabrisse ter Brugghe
George R. R. Martin who created the Game of Thrones universe.
Lindsay Ellis
It's on Amazon Prime! That's where we captured it from.
Fabrisse ter Brugghe
Also, this was a really great video.
Fabrisse ter Brugghe
Loved the use of "Dream Lover." The 80s Beauty and the Beast was the first time I participated in a write-in "save our show" campaign. I loved it, especially the underworld. It turned the whole thing on its head not just with Vincent being cultured and sexy, but by having the character of Elliot Burch transform from a Donald Trumpish developer into someone who risks his life to do the right thing because he's been transformed by love. Must go home and rewatch.
Callen
I wish there were more videos coming out per month. But I totally get the directed effort into your video craft. Just a notice, I saw that the Patreon logo at the end of the video was blocking a lot of the Patrons rewarded with a mention. Not sure if that's the most sensible place to put that clickable sticker.
Amazing video as always
Funny coincidence... You're our first subscription on Patreon, and this was the first video since subscribing. I've really enjoyed your content, as has my ninth grade daughter. Recently we were discussing one of your videos, and she suggested we support you. So, unbeknownst to her, I subscribed in her name. I thought it would be cute for her to find out she was a Patron by seeing her name at the end of your video. As it happens, the past two weeks she's been studying Mary Shelley's Frankenstein in her Language Arts class. Way to deliver!
Frances Webb
I did not recognize the photo of the writer of the Linda Hamilton B&B. I assume this marks me as totally out of the loop. Still, it might be helpful to have a caption for the similarly un-hip.
CaitSeith
I remember that old Beauty and the Beast TV series with the manimal beast (well, sorta). Thanks for the nostalgia trip!
SulaMoon
This was amazing :D Quick question: shouldn't there be a link to the guest channel on the description?
Robert Miles
TROT CUTELY and PROVE LOVE
Didn't know I needed this video essay in my life till I saw it, but thank you for doing this topic! I've always been fascinated with Beauty and the Beast stories in culture, so much so that I wrote my own novel about it, so it was really great to see the historical breakdown and inherent coding - keep it up girl!
Parallel rule to Chekhov's Gun, Ellis' Starscream - if you show a Starscream figurine in the background, you have to reference Starscream by the end
Amelie Marandet
I was always disappointed as a kid when the Beast transformed into the prince. Oh no, not a BOY, yuck. Then i discovered growing up i was not the only one. very interesting to learn about the history of monster-young women relations in fiction and how it relates to forced marriage. If expanded, I think there is also an interesting bridge in the recurrence in fiction of the young woman and Death - maybe the power and tragedy of submission to the unbreachable Otherness.
Lindsay Ellis
Interesting to note that two of those examples are basically author avatars (especially Brian).
LL
I want to write a really well thought out comment, but every time the video cuts back to Lindsay I get distracted the fabulous Starscream figure in the background.
Matt Eldritch
While I was watching this, I was thinking about stuff like Family Guy, We Bare Bears and Howard the Duck that feature human/antro animal romance. Why is it so prevelent in media? Why is it mostly confined to male animals to human women? Why do the worlds they inhabit condone this sort of beastiality?
Matthew Dunne
I'll save it until after Saturday, then (assuming that Storm Emma does not bury me).
Mister CPU
It is an open secret that the Creature from the Black Lagoon is a favorite of the ladies in the monster fan community. It could be in part that the Gill-man was designed by a lady, Milicent Patrick.
SurgeryHead
Massive spoilers! Be warned!!
SurgeryHead
Massive spoilers in the first few seconds DO NOT WATCH
Matthew Dunne
Hmm, I want to watch this, but... does it have spoilers for The Shape of Water?
Jennifer Miller
I feel like Martin had a LOT of help writing Beauty and the Beast.
Tim Davis
I see Starscream is here for this too
Josh Clark
Great video Lindsay. The Clash of the Titans footage was a fantastic choice.
[pauses at 16:58] [falls over]
Allan Jensen
My first Patreon post from you. I'm so excited π
Koda Fiction
Iβm not gonna lie, the fish man does it for me. And so does Sidon from Breath of the Wild and Kit Fisto from Star Wars. Funny enough, never been big into Aquaman π
A video on monster loving is what finally got me to subscribe on Patreon
Bardcraft
I remember leaving the theater with tons of people being gross out her having sex with the fishman and making the theme more honest and poignant.
Lindsay Ellis
True fax: he actually reached out to me, and I haaaaaappened to be planning a video on the same topic!
Clare (Agrippina) Belshaw
AHHH HOLY SHIT!!! I"M SO PLEASED YOU GOT LA'RON REDUS! So pleased I got to introduce you to his channel <3 <3 Great vid!
Lindsay Ellis
No, this was from an awards screener DVD from a nameless source *shushface*
Stuart Wilke
Liked and favorited, as always. A lot of information I wasn't aware of and a fascinating topic. I'm curious, though, how did you get so much footage of The Shape of Water? The footage you're using is definitely from the full film and not trailers, did it come out on Blu-ray/digital and I missed it?
Videos like this are what really make me miss university. Excellent as always!
Rebel Girl
Me: Mention GRRM, mention GRRM... *pic and music* YES!
Ugino
Extraordinary work. I'd love to hear you expand on that "[white] woman as embodiment of status quo" idea. I'm sure there's gender work on trappings of the private sphere and therefore women as vessels for a culture's expectations, aspirations, and self-judgments. ~A Jealous Bitch
Noclip
This was super great!
Wait, so does this mean The Babadook really is an LGBT character?
I was in the middle of writing, but Lindsay beckoned.
Reuben
I love that Chuck Tingle is mainstream romance now. LOVE IS REAL!
This is honestly all I've ever wanted. Bring the wine
shape of water is probably the first of this genre to actually show the girl fucking her monster boyfriend though.