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Biblical Wanderings: Mark 8:14-19

🕑 Added 2024-02-26 17:08:11 +0000 UTC
Biblical Wanderings: Mark 8:14-19

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Sam Bradley

We can learn a lot from the natural world, and it’s inherent cycles. As humans, our adoption of culture as dogma has done nothing but hurt us. It’s pulled us outside of the influence of the divine. We continue to drink from these muddy streams, when solutions are simple. I have a lot of fascination with the divine and the subconscious, and how it conveys itself through the art people create. Because while a lot of modern media is quite flat, and un-inspired - the stuff that really sticks usually has a divine message wrapped within it. I think a lot about Dune, The Dark Crystal, the Labyrinth, Space Odyssey, The Last Unicorn, Twin Peaks, the Alien movies. A lot of these more fantastical stories feel a lot more honest to me. Some people don’t take the time to dig deeper into what they’re consuming, these examples are outliers beloved by the people who resonate with them. I think when creating art, we have to be mindful of what we pull inspiration from. If it’s not divinely inspired, is it honest? Generally not. There ought to be a shift in the media being produced, it’s coming. There is a lot of karmic retribution going on in the media industry right now. David Lynch dying, and Los Angeles burning is just a sign of the times. There’s a shifting of the tides, and there’s going to be a large change in the way people view American media. People are going to start digging their own holes by the water, I know I have!

Raíssa Leão

This reminds me of the way some more aggressive preachers and pastors talk about ‘worldly ventures’. I was raised to believe anything ‘worldly’ is necessarily separate from the divine and, ultimately, the very notion drove me away from my belief in Jesus as savior. It’s funny, I’ve only recently, as of last year to be precise – I’ve only recently been developing a close, intimate relationship to God and, truthfully, Will: only through your words was I able to remember how much I missed God and Jesus’ teachings. How much I missed spiritual guidance because I was too sad about no being able to live ‘worldly’ with divine intentions & beliefs. I don’t know if I’m making any sense. But this passage made me understand what Jesus really wants from us when he talks about ‘worldly’ influences: to filter. To find deeper meaning. To reject superficiality, to reject tradition for the sake of tradition, to reject religious dogmas for the sake of it. To fully understand and to hear, see and remember deeply. This new interpretation makes me feel static. I couldn’t thank you enough, Will, for guiding my way to ultimate guidance.

Luka Buchanan

this was a particularly insightful and beautiful session, thank you :’) thinking about yeast…

Luka Buchanan

it’s funny you share this, because i’m reading Devotions at the moment (a big collection of Oliver’s work), and it is a wonderful supplement to these biblical wanderings (or vice versa). i think last time i commented a poem of hers that really resonated with me called Praying that reminded me of the biblical topic. i’m about halfway through Devotions - it’s a hefty collection to be sure - and it is just wonderful, so so delightful, navigates with profound grace the messiness of humanness; of culture, and the divine, the sense of Spirit. it is just so grounding and life-affirming and spirituality-affirming. Wild Geese is the first poem of Oliver’s i ever read and it’s such a quintessential reminder… i am constantly repeating to myself “YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WALK ON YOUR KNEES FOR A HUNDRED MILES THROUGH THE DESERT REPENTING!!!!!!!”

damian

it's a big coincidence that today's study approaches how human culture makes you aim for acceptance in lots of different ways because i was talking about this with a friend of mine yesterday; your music helped me come to terms with my sexuality a few years ago... i developed a unique relationship with your lyrics that changed through the years and as time passes, they resonate more and more with my life... (i like to joke with my closer friends that i understand your lyrics in a brazilian-trans-gayish way.) thanks to that, i learned to like myself. i stopped feeling like i need to change my personality to fit in what people expect of me, i am who i am and that's cool. tl;dr your music made me stop wanting to be accepted as someone who i'm not... while being a gay man. does that make sense? i'm writing this on the bus heading home and it's 11 p.m. and i'm really tired lol but hear you talking about this stuff right after i spent last night thinking about it really got me (in a good way!) also i would like to share that my relationship with your music helped me in my decision of pursuing my dreams of being a language major (as i mentioned in a comment another week) :) now, a silly thing... i left a little laugh out when you started listing the things you were seeing, hearing and thinking and how we constantly try to suppress these actions in order to "function properly" (at least that's how i got it...?) because i was doing exactly the same thing while listening to the audiobook lol. i sat next to the bus engine and i couldn't listen to your voice clearly because of the noises. i started to get lost in the landscape of são paulo's downtown (as the architecture photographer i am) and immediately after i noticed i was getting distracted i started to think "wait... i can't keep looking through the window... i need to focus on what he's saying..." but why not trying to do both? and so i did. on my way to classes earlier today i listened to your wanderings while appreciating the view from inside the bus and i can say it made me feel very human in my own, personal way. have a lovely week, will! sorry for the long comment, i got a little carried away.

gumby

what you said about culture reminds me of the last verse of the mary oliver poem “wild geese” “whoever you are, no matter how lonely, the world offers itself to your imagination, calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting over and over announcing your place in the family of things.” it took me a long time to understand what she meant, and an even longer time for those words to resonate.

Greylyn Morningstar

This one made me think of a passage from The Raft Is Not the Shore: Conversations Toward a Buddhist-Christian Awareness. It's a beautiful dialog between Thich Nhat Hanh and Daniel Berrigan. In the first chapter they discuss memory, and Nhat Hanh says: "In French they have the word 'recueillement' to describe the attitude of someone trying to be himself, not to be dispersed, one member of the body here, another there. One tries to recover, to be once more in good shape, to become whole again. And I think that is the beginning of awakening. People speak about sudden enlightenment.... The distance separating forgetfulness, ignorance, and enlightenment-- that distance is short; it is so short that it is no distance at all. One may be ignorant now but he can be enlightened in the next second. The recovering of oneself can be realized in just one portion of one second. And to be aware of who we are, what we are, what we are doing, what we are thinking, seems to be a very easy thing to do-- and yet it is the most important thing: 'se recueillir'-- the starting point of the salvation of oneself."

Enoch

These are so nice to listen to, very insightful. It’s cool when you go off the script as well and share more personal stuff, which makes it easier to relate to. I’m surprised that I’ve been looking forward to and enjoying these readings when I always thought I’d swear off religion, because in my mind they’ve always been bad and people have been hateful.

damian

gonna listen on my way to classes later today! i'll be back to leave my thoughts on it :D

duke

I really like what you said about the metaphor building off of the literal meaning. I think, especially when writing, we focus too much on metaphors and allusions and making things have more meaning than they really need to, sometimes the simplest answer is right in front of us. I’ve always really wondered about unleavened vs. leavened bread and the significance, so I did enjoy you going into that. The dive into human culture and the similarities as to what it was and what it is today was really fascinating. The knowledge that “no human can escape human culture” really really hits, as someone who has wanted to do so before. It’s just so ingrained in who you are as a person, and maybe human culture is what really makes us human in the first place, even with how very negative it is. Maybe I’m just saying things, I very rarely look back over these paragraphs honestly. Recently I’ve found myself struggling with the act of escapism from reality, the mantra you mentioned will hopefully help me get out of that cycle. With so many options and things that are available to just “escape” for a while, it’s very tempting. However, this then throws you into a cycle of not actively living, and more passively staying alive. I struggle to be able to sit and just remember things, but it would be much worse to forget. I really really like the way you phrased “putting yourself into a package that’s more consumable for people”. Spending your whole life attempting to be more digestible for people is a serious struggle, especially being part of many disliked communities, and just feeling so lost. I like to think I’ve improved from the person stuck in a box I was a few years ago, but there’s only one way to figure that out. I like the idea of sitting along your fantasies, not running from them. For now I suppose I’ll just be seeing, hearing, and remembering, and looking for the moon. Sorry this one’s a bit long, and hello to the folks who reached out.

alex

yippeeeee

duke

frick yeah bible time


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