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Thoughts on Shadow of the Tomb Raider (No spoilers)

🕑 Added 2018-10-12 10:50:28 +0000 UTC
Thoughts on Shadow of the Tomb Raider (No spoilers)

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walt m

the story most definitely will not grab you. it's very paint-by-numbers. I found myself rooting for the "bad guy" sometimes because how annoying Lara would talk. I actually think the "bad guy" was probably a better good guy than Lara. Also with this game I found myself bored with the story and actually wanting it to go away. which is sad because the series has so much potential for a good story.

Justin Pauls

"I even bought an Xbox One just to play Rise of the Tomb Raider! Regretting that, now!" Lmao. Great review, though. It seems to be the general consensus that the new Tomb Raider trilogy is overall good, but not great. Here's to hoping Square Enix can once again solidify TR's identity in the future!

Katja Petrovic

THANK YOU Mark for perfectly articulating what has been so disappointing about the new Tomb Raider games. I felt like I was going insane when I seemed to be the only person who felt 'meh' about Rise of the Tomb Raider - it just seemed like I'd seen it all before. I'm playing God of War 4 now, and it feels like what AAA games should be - a game that thoughtfully weaves combat, story progression and exploration together into a perfectly-crafted and coherent experience.

Camui Kushi

I wonder how this series would have turned out if they let Cory Barlog have his one-shot game.

Leonardo Coelho

Hey Mark! I really like these kind of review texts that you do, you should do them more often!

Tobasco da Gama

I loved TR2013 and quite enjoyed Rise. TR2013's combat was quite fun, but what really sucked me in were the setting/characters and the puzzles. I was totally on board for Lara's struggle to turn herself into a survivor. Rise inevitably disappointed just because the thing I was really into with TR2013 (the survivor story) was over with. The Trinity intrigue just didn't do it for me in the same way. And I love Jonah, but WHERE THE HELL WAS SAM??? Glad to see that Shadow doubled down on the puzzle stuff, but I'm just not sure the story will grab me.

Don't regret your Xbox One, Mark. You're supporting quality backwards compatibility! (For instance, you should go back and play Tomb Raider: Anniversary, my favorite of the series.)

Rich Stoehr

Great write up, Mark. I'm only a couple hours into Shadow so far, but feeling much if what you're saying, both the good and the bad. I also really appreciated your Polygon article about her death animations! Those have gotten so tired in this one.

Paul Andrei

Nice review, I personally like the first 2 games (haven't played this one yet). There are aspects of them that I like more than Uncharted. Uncharted has great characters, great vistas and set pieces but WAAAY too much combat and too little and too easy puzzles and this is where I like Tomb Raider more. I'm not into shooting games so I found myself frustrated more than once in Uncharted so I kinda had more fun playing Tomb Raider. It's weird, if you ask me, I like Uncharted more, I remember the games and characters more fondly but I had more fun playing Tomb Raider :)

Mark M

Great write up. This game intrigues me and I'll probably give it a go. I enjoyed the first game as an Uncharted-lite, it's no masterpiece, but fun. Bought Rise ages ago but always had something else to play. The fact this one goes a different route is intriguing. It's a shame that so many AAA games force themselves into the same template. It seems like this one is only half committing to breaking away. It'd be nice to see them commit to it more fully, maybe in a side project like Uncharted Lost Legacy. They seem to be well made games by people who care about player experience, but also a bit too tied into commercial 'wisdom'.

Derek Lieu

Thanks for your thoughts! I wasn’t sure if I’d play Shadow of the Tomb Raider, but de-emphasizing combat sounds good to me. My main problem with these games are the characters not holding my interest. None of them can hold up to the “Describe the character without using their clothing, profession, what their role in the story was” test (from the Red Letter Media Phantom Menace Review). Uncharted’s stories aren’t terribly deep either, but the characters make me so much more invested!

OSW Review

Cheers mark! Would u consider having this made into a video? Or even voice it and send it off for others to edit?

Great write-up! Despite a few issues, mainly with the story, I think Rise manages to be the best of the trilogy. Shadow adds virtually nothing to what Rise had to offer, but takes away the combat, and for all that Tomb Raider shouldn't be all about the combat, it actually manages to do it extremely well. I really enjoyed Rise but found Shadow mostly just disappointment after disappointment. Hopefully the next reboot will rethink all this though and see whether it can go back to some of Lara's good stuff mechanically rather than just a younger age.

Filthy & Free Publishing

Very well written. I too have always wondered why these new Tomb Raider games forgot about the isolation. Lara Croft didn't shoot people very often, if at all -- she ran from tigers and swung around from vines avoiding snakes. She was Pitfall Harry mixed with Indiana Jones, not Rambo. That was what made the Croft mansion such a well-designed and safe feeling hub between missions: there were other humans there, not dangerous beasts.


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