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GMTK Game Jam 2023 Post Mortem

🕑 Added 2023-07-21 05:23:16 +0000 UTC
GMTK Game Jam 2023 Post Mortem

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H.B.

The reversal on the stance of AI when it comes to code made no sense to me. E.g. check out the StackOverflow survey on AI tools being used (https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2023/#most-popular-technologies-ai-dev), more than half of respondents are using GitHub Copilot, a paid tool; that should give some indication how much people actually are in support of such tooling. It also is not like people use such tools in the vein of "write a game for me". Most of the time it's just a fancy auto-complete that writes *exactly* what you would have written yourself anyway. And as someone else noted, if the rule cannot be enforced it does not make much sense. Especially for code, it is virtually impossible to tell and it is not like the source is being published or reviewed by anyone.

Willhart

Like an option for it would have been nice.

Willhart

I think this jam could have been a great opportunity to discover more benefits and use cases of AI made code, art, and ideas for those who have been experimenting with the new tech a lot. I also read that at least one good game got banned for using AI art too (one where you forget the lines when going on a stage and have to improv).

Lauren N

While I understand the point about presentation scores causing good games with bad art to score lower than they perhaps should, I think it's important to remember that the jam is not a fair match and it likely never will be. There are plenty of unfair reasons one game idea does better than another. After all, you have teams of 20+ versus individuals. Even if you were to lower the weighting of presentation, people will still probably rate a game higher in all categories if they enjoy it's appearance, because it's hard (if not impossible) to separate the different parts of your experience with a game. So I doubt it will fix the problem much. Besides, it already feels like a loosing game as a solo artist. No need to dash our hopes even more. Anyway, good job and thanks to you and your team running the jam! It's always a lot of fun every year.

I think scoring should be changed so that the weakest score is weighted less heavily in the overall ranking so as to be fair to those who are about the art and those who are creative at the same time As for the AI debate, if you cannot enforce a rule you should not have it. A rule you cannot enforce just rewards cheaters. So if you cannot enforce AI bans you are hurting your honest participants.


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