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Blue Star Enterprises Chapter 56

🕑 Added 2024-07-26 12:00:11 +0000 UTC

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Shmooggie

Ooh, pirate attack!

Hammy

TFTC Good edit imo.

ShadeByTheSea

I wrote a giant rant, but you don't need that negativity. It's your story to tell and it doesn't have to work for everyone.

melchi

Like the captain friend said many characters ago, getting burned for playing in a space dominated by entrenched parties was supposed to be a lesson about the world.

melchi

I agree, without help from someone who is in a place of power to deter the pirates this would be the eventually situation.

Merlin's Fan

Devil's Advocate here, what if it is such common knowledge that they expected him to put it into his design? Maybe the current designs do have all of this information. Alexander here is from our time, and can think at the speed of a robot, with its capacity, but is still limited by his era.

Merlin's Fan

I believe there would have to be some circuitry in order to be able to open gates and tell it what to do but hey. Also an EMP is capable of blowing every fuse, because they're already at their rating maximum... In a perfect world, which this isn't.

Armo

Hm. I think a lot of people have already said that this feels narratively unsatisfying, but so many things do that when they go wrong. I won’t hold that as a major issue. I can buy an advanced EMP disabling the facility at this stage. However, I do expect it to be more rare than not considering it didn’t come up with the Hawks. Then again, worse oversights have happened. It will be interesting to see how Alex adapts after this. Maybe you shouldn’t be doing groundbreaking work which you know others will kill to take before actually making sure your defense system can protect you? Alexander has never built or designed an orbital defense system before. Neither has he had to really think about how to make a facility robustly secure. I can cut him some slack on the critical mistakes he has made. I’ve already talked about his lack of missile defense and ground forces component, which is a much bigger issue for me than the EMP weakness personally. I think the decision to not make any lethal weapons at least for personal use is braindead stupid - you can’t protect yourself with stationary weapons only. Further, if you can’t trust at least some people on the base with weapons, you have no business trying to coexist in an area without any hope of reinforcements. And with at least one vulnerable dependent, too! Either Alex should have evicted everyone and shipped in security from STO space on a long-term basis or formed a partnership and made contingencies to arm the most trustworthy of the locals. You shouldn’t pussyfoot around with security in hostile space, which this absolutely is. As it is, Alexander just yolo’d onto an insecure planet with no actual security force after the Hawks left. Thank you for the chapter.

Gabriel Melnik

Dude Alexander started ghetto and he is still ghetto. You can make a man rich, but he will always find his cousing who is a hacker and load 300 games for 75 dollars.

melchi

Also, did a quick google search asking "what is not damaged by emp" and someone with military experience said that they tested with nuclear attack levels on consumer electronics, 80% of the things they tested were okay by just restarting them.

melchi

I know this isn't a hard science novel but using the term hardened and not-hardened is a big of a hand way to the science of electromagnetism. The effect that causes problems is described in ampere's law. Simply put, a change in magnetic field produces a current in a circuit. Also, the reverse is true. It is how transformers work. Proximity and geometry would need to be used to describe how much induced current would be in each circuit. But for something to be damaged to the point that it couldn't be fixed with a reset it would have to be enough current that it would heat the wires up enough to damage the device. Again, the requirement to induce a current is that it has to be a circuit, a loop of wire, connected, or something that works like that. The rail guns, as described use capacitor banks to get a higher voltage than what the power source's voltage can actually supply. This is done mechanically, like with a taser, they are charged in pararell (say 10 caps charged to 10V) then you have 10 caps in series and it'll be a short burst of 100V until they are discharged. Also, the _bigger_ the wires they less chance they will be unrecoverably damaged by inducing extra current. 1 Amp of current in micro wires of a phone would smoke it. 1 amp extra in a power line won't do much but maybe mess up the phase for a second. Hardening is sorta a catch all. Someone could build a faraday cage on something but just wrapping it in copper foil. It would be ghetto but it would be something.

melchi

In space miles away is quite close. However I'm a little disappointed that sneaky is so easy in space. There is not much to hide behind in the void.

Overclocked

I mean, I'm also pretty sure FTL travel is also impossible, but it's in your story lol

Null

Thank you for the chapter And I don't think I need to comment my opinion since all other are saying what's on my mind.

Hammy

TFTC, Well written and seeing the pirate perspective was interesting. But I have to agree with the other posters. Even in today world, critical Military & infrastructure systems are hardened against EMP. Just all this build up for his defenses and they get wiped out and made pointless. Honestly I was expecting a rock or something to knock out one or two gun placements to make a safe window for the raiders.

Gabriel Melnik

Author, you gotta remember that nukes and EMP are 400 year old technology, and the need to insulate from electromagnetic surges (from solar winds mostly) should have made the technology to shield from EMPs quite mature (taken into consideration that the blast should be stronger than the solar winds that a dwarf star can spew) On that note, the blue dwarf allowing an atmosphere on Edens end is kinda of a iffy given that there are examples of red dwarfs with solar winds 30 times stronger than what Sol spews (The star is called YZ CMi, quite a memorable name I know)

Gabriel Melnik

I got mixed up fission with fusion

Aclys

Well that's the downside of knocking up a defense grid in a month, easy to overlook a possible way to knock it all down a pirate might use. On the plus side, I am eagerly anticipating Alexander figuring out that he's probably a military grade robot.

mmarkgraf212

Um, no. I don't know of any nuke that uses heavy water. And it was noticed eventually, but it was simply too late to stop it from detonating in orbit.

mmarkgraf212

I'm not sure you could even harden railguns against an emp. They are metal rods designed to transmit a magnetic pulse to fire a projectile. Hence the blowout fuses Alexander had to replace. So maybe instead of saying he didn't harden the weapons, it would be better to say the blowout fuses did their job to protect the power systems. And he simply doesn't have time to replace them all. That leaves the internal turrets. Those are operated by his breadboard chips. No way those things are surviving an emp blast.

Dystopics

I think that its a bit unsatisfying for all the work done to build defenses against this exact sort of threat are being no-sold by a (as far as I am aware) never before mentioned threat (Nukes and EMPs). I don't think nukes have been mentioned before, so we don't know if nukes are a common, expected munition - in which case, the lack of EMP hardening feels like a glaring oversight. If this is more of a Mass Effect style setting, where nukes near habitable planets gets enough bad PR from governments that even pirates would think twice about it, it becomes a bit more forgivable, as EMP hardening would be an entire extra level of resource investment of an already precious supply of refined metals, all for what should've been an unlikely avenue of attack.

Peter

Yup, i agree, i think a robot would worry about emp, even if he himself was hardened, he would make the stuff he makes hardened, 1 emp nuke taking out all the defenses is a bit much to believe. If he was human, I could maybe understand this oversight, but he also has many people he consults with and they would likely note this issue.

Gabriel Melnik

Well to be honest, given that nuclear warhead material is literally what fuels the standard ship, a nuke should have been seen from a mile away. The EMP shouldn't have worked.

Overclocked

Sorry but I have to call bullshit. Your telling me he didn't harden his defenses against EMP, even when he had mercenary consultants, is a robot, and knew pirates would come. This is just a plot device to drive the story a particular direction. I suggest you rewrite the pirates entrance to have them take fire. Sure you can make it so they eventually win, but that would just make the pirates meaner when they finally land and give more drive to their next actions, whatever that may be.

Gabriel Melnik

Well that sucks.


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