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BSE Chapter 3-41

🕑 Added 2025-01-08 13:00:10 +0000 UTC

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Adam Player

This chapter will bring chaos, heavily adviced that you change some parts or quickly post the other chapters related to his decision so peole could have a more relaxed reaction.

ben russ

I think it would be insane to vassalize BSE. Monarchies (what at its core Asgard is), are subject to change, and once a vassal the only way to get out of vassalage is war or being freed, something a bad monarchy would never do

Morsmessorem

Just fyi, this chapter WILL couse another mayhem in RR in it's current form.

Nexis

So nice you and jaksterzoo explained how stupid it would be if our MC agrees to that deal. It would not only be a disaster for Kane in the long run, it would be a disaster for the novel because to be somehow realistic it would change have to change to hardcore political theories. Who wants to read about that?

Nexis

The problem is, they won't be an independent nation if he agrees. They are a vasall state. The agreement can change over time and he can't say no. Answering no to changing agreements would result as being thrown out of this "alliance". See it that way: you are a citizen of your country. But if your country changes laws, you can't get out of it. BSE will only remain as a vasall state of another country. If the leadership changes, the agreements change. If our MC is against that agreements, he could leave that alliance but for that, there is always a price to be payed. Also let's be true, a agreement of a country is sometimes worth nothing. Look at the agreement between Russia and the Europe union. America, Russian and some other countries who established the Europe union had to agree with Russian that they are allowed to do etablish it, if the Europe union does not expand to Russian borders. Now the Europe union wants to assimilate the Ukraine. Big war and so in happens right now if you read newspapers you know. Another example would be England and the Europe union..... so... there are 2 options that novel could go if our MC agrees. Unrealistic story, or a story with lots of stupid politics noone wants to read about... there is so much more i would want to write about that, but it would be too much into detail of politics.

SnufflenoseSmooshwhiskers

In regards to Krieger's crew, didn't Char's ship cripple his stealth ship? The same ship that lost about 200 crew in that fight? If she claims they aren't pirates, why did they invade Kane's planet to begin with? There was even a scene where she expressed some guilt for using slaves to build the Valkyrie. I don't dislike the idea of an alliance necessarily, but there are some pretty big leaps in logic bouncing around here. Not to mention her claim that Unokane belonged to her in the first place.

Colin Fortin-Ballay

I don’t think its such a dumb idea Unokane was already recognized by the STO and he could play the UNO reverse card to force STO to recognize the Char as a legetimate independent territory affiliated with Kane. Furthermore, in the long term the alliance will become a lot more interesting when all the corporations tries to attack him.

Jaksterzoo

Agreed, only caveat to that is the Corporations are probably/might try to get him black listed/listed as a pirate, but again that’s much more of a ‘maybe sometime later’ then a ‘it will happen’ like in this case…

DaftWully

I completely agree with everything you said. There is one more issue that Kane needs to take into consideration. If Kane joins the Char, he loses his standing with the STO. Currently, Unokane is in good standing with the STO. He'd automatically become a pirate system from the STO's perspective if he joins the Asguardians.

Gabriel Melnik

This is stupid, really stupid. Kane already saw space feudalism and said "I got no choice"

Lazysailor

My thoughts exactly His former STO crew wouldn't stand for it. They may have been disgraced in STO navy But I don't think these people who followed their captain into basically exile would be willing to work under pirates

Jaksterzoo

Thank you, yeah didn’t articulate it well. Just a LOT of points not to agree, 1 ‘maybe’ benefit at most, short term. All his plans will probably fall through agreeing in any form anyways…

Lazysailor

You basically said everything I was thinking but couldn't articulate well Like even if Kane isn't politically smart He is from the 21st century even the basic of basic people understand you don't agree to shit right away and always check your sources and have multiple sources of info Like even if the asgaurds have been framed All that could be faked on the asguards side or cherry picked info to put them in a better light and spin the facts to suit their needs That is politicking 101 Let's not even get into the former STO crew that he has They aren't gonna want to work for pirates and realistically would probably at a minimum leave if not mutiny and take Kane's ships.

Jaksterzoo

I feel like every single one of the past 3 chapters was to push ‘kane isn’t politically smart’ but comes more off too forcefully and not very artfully done. There are multiple points not even considered by him or prembook. They KNOW that the Char are surrounded by Kane, the Xin, AND Harlow (who she has to fight anyways, because Kane even said he’d mess with her anyways.) Not to mention that he litterally saw them fight their own people when they warped in… They KNOW she is technologically behind him. Also, him or his advisors should also KNOW that the STO will cut their nation off and label them as pirates if they agree anyways, even if only in name. What really ticked me off was the sentence “If your information is accurate, time is in short supply, Kane.” … She said, after taking *Two Days to give him a deal* ….. ‘The choice is obvious’ seems pretty dang obvious, agreed, deny the offer and say ‘good luck’. Char is in no position to negotiate, they both know it, yet this ‘charade’ of Kane considering (or even accepts) the offer makes no sense, from any standpoint. It’s more baggage, which Kane is known to hate. If they accept, all of his advisors failed at their jobs. There is No Benefit, (even her helping against Harlow is a MUST for her due to him going through her territory) that has been discussed with her. At most a trade deal, and if she doesn’t accept it she is a fool. Sorry for the rant, this is just what I feel reading this and please disregard if anything is too rude. Just feels rushed, I’ll though out, and hammers too much on ‘Kane isn’t smart politically or strategically, and doesn’t have any advisors’ (even though he does have advisors).

Merlin's Fan

I understand the setup to get him be king of Asgard, but I don't understand the necessity of this needing to be done. He just managed to claim independents and form his own nation. So unless he's planning to say he quelled these "pirates" to the sto and claims the territory as his own, something that the sto hasn't been able to do, he's more than likely just going get cut off. This seems like a step to be taken after sto is not needed and even looked down upon from a BSE view.

ShadeByTheSea

At this point kinda feels like his fleet should abandon him because he's basically betraying them and everyone at eden's end.

ShadeByTheSea

Won't they lose their status as an independent nation with the sto? Also they'll be labeled as pirates. (Everyone before this called the char pirates, there is no way they won't also get this label) this just seems like a bad idea all around. The story is getting further and further away from him running a company and making things.

Silver Beard

Any resolution that puts him 'under' her is not going to work more than the time it takes just to say it. His tech, engines, crew are all better than hers. Go home and make them better and watch Harlow blow the last of his nukes on Asgard!

Silver Beard

Still think he should battle her to submission and make her a 'wife'. He would be 'King' then and could order the other jarls to defend 'their' system. He'll get a slightly better deal and she'd get her house 'cleaned' for cheap. It's not like he could mate with her even if he wanted too.

Lazysailor

I think i know where out author is going with this Probably gonna have Alex get into a political marriage with her for various reasons The foreshadowing has been pretty heavy in regards to it

Peu Peu

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