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BSE Chapter 3-43

🕑 Added 2025-01-10 13:00:11 +0000 UTC

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Nobody is perfect

No he would not they would just say he is a pirate and end. The best outcome would be completly isolation no ship's leave or go in the system, all trade deals off, like north korea only harder. Oni and the other company's would make sure this happend!

MR105

I know I’m late to this party, but him becoming a vassal really kills my enjoyment of the story for some reason. It doesn’t help that I don’t care for Katelyn as a character. The fact their whole shtick is space viking just seems kinda silly too - I didn’t mind when they were just in the background but now they are front and center.

Des

@M.J. Markgraf A sovereign nation that allies with an enemy "pirate" (or enemy nation) can very quickly become an enemy officially. However you turn it this is a huge risk for Alex at this point and should have been a major consideration. A defensive alliance without vassalage would already strain relations with the STO though it does seem somewhat necessary at this point.

Des

The direction the story took with the vassalage feels HIGHLY frustrating and illogical to me. I fully expected a defensive alliance paired with tech sharing and manufacturing deals not this. Yes Alex does need allies to deal with Harlow... But so does Lagertha. Alex can offer so many advantages in technology, knowledge (learning modules) and manufacturing that it should offset everything the Lagertha has to offer. The ONLY way he becomes a vassal should have been by being forced to it by a militarily or economically superior state. (Like if the entire asgardian fleet came knocking on his door THEN they could force a vassalage. But even then he would have some cards to soften the blow because of the knowledge (learning modules), tech, and manufacturing advantages he holds. The price of destroying him completely and not getting all his sweet tech would probably too high especially when a full conflict would likely inflict large damage to the asgardian fleet.) But neither happened. During the entire negotiations he even had a fleet advantage or at least a stalemate (Yes as a whole asgard has the larger fleet but does it matter if he is staying ontop of their homeworld at just that moment? If she argues that her fleet is large and that she could destroy him with it he could counter argue that he could beat her fleet and glass her homeworld before the rest arrives. Even if this is a bluff and both know it it is still a risk nobody wants to take). Equal or almost equal states do not go into vassalage. I really like this story so far, this is why I even became a patreon because your story has me hooked so much but please consider if there isn't a different way to go about this. A solution I could imagine would be that Alex agrees to most what the vassalage entails, so the laws and defensive alliance and tech deals, WITHOUT actually consigning his "nation" to vassalage in name. Alternatively create a situation in which the Lagertha forces Alex into submitting via the whole (or a large portion) of the asgardian fleet. Or reword the entire vassalage thing into something less medieval and subjugation sounding and name it an alliance or confederation. Just so we are clear I criticize this so much (and am so frustrated by it) because I really love your work and wish to see this flaw (in my opinion) improved. :)

mmarkgraf212

I think you're misunderstanding something. While I plan on changing some things in this arc slightly the outcome will be essentially the same. Alexander is still a sovereign nation in the eyes of the STO. By the STO's own rules, they cannot reverse that decision no matter what actions Alexander takes. It gives him leeway that the Asgardians never received and never tried to receive. He explained that even before he left for Asgard. That doesn't mean the STO won't be annoyed by his actions, but the most they could do is block trade unless he attacks them.

Ant1h3ld

Well. I didn't receive any notifications for some reason, but the whole Asgard Arc is one big clusterfuck of Alex gripping the idiot ball so tight I'm surprised it didn't explode. While Nexis comment is a drunken ramble, apparently, I'm wholeheartedly agreeing with the gist of it. What The Fuck Is Alex thinking? He isn't, apparently, at all. It doesn't fucking matter if he thinks they're pirates. The STO thinks they're pirates. So the second BSE joins the norse god wannabes, they're declared pirates by association. Every.Single.Ship that flies BSE colors is going to be tagged as a pirate. That means, aside from Black Ops deals like with the Admiral, there is no more fucking business to be had. And nobody brings this up? Not Krieger, who should know the rules of engagement by heart? Not Pembrooke? Who is a fucking lawyer as far as I remember? If you want to use this to force BSE into actual opposition with the entire STO, congrats, that's all but guaranteed. Anything else would completely shatter my suspension of disbelief. This is a godsent opportunity for all those corpo fucks. And that's not to mention every single citizen of Unokane. Everyone will be declared a pirate unless they gtfo the second these news drop, and maybe not even then. Including Yulia.

Nexis

I had a few beer and there just came up a fun possible conversation into my mind. The MC comes back from the Asgardian space back to his own nation and declares to his people in an official statmant "we now have allies that help us defend against pirates like Harlow, our nation is safer than ever". Interviewer asks the MC " wow, thank you so much for garantee our safety you are a realy good leader, how did you even manage that? The MC answers: " it was no easy descission, but we are now a vasall state of the Asgardian Union and they protect us, we only have to follow there rules and laws additional to our own". The interviewer :" ohh nice, but i thought the Asgardians are pirates, and the STO also treats them as pirates?" The MC answers "yea i know i though the same, but they are realy not, i have prove, this is all a missunderstanding" the interviewer questions "if we are part of the Asgardians now and the STO treats them as pirates, how does the STO see us now?" The MC answers: " I dont know, i did not ask them if we stil can do buisness with them with our BSE transponsers on our ships". The interviewer asks sceptical: " but if we are part of the asgardians wouldn't they atack our ships now because we are seen as asgardian pirates? I mean, we are not even an independend nation now we are a vasall state of the Asgardians" the MC says "huh, yea that could happen, maybe better not tell them?" The interviewer starts to sweat:" there are talks, that someone named Xin is in war with the Asgardians, are we also now in conflict with that pirate nation?" The MC stutters: " äääm, yea... I think so... we are Asgardians vasalls so if they are at war with that nation we are too". The interviewer ends the conversation " people of our Nation, i am happy to tell you, that we are now safer than ever thanks to our wise leadership".

Nexis

Depends i would say. This Union of Jarls is something good at how it is now. There is nothing to complain about it. The problem is that rules have to change over time to fit the technological advances and other stuff that changes with time. So what happens if this union rules have to change. The present leader has to change the union rules that every other Jarl has to follow. What happens if this ruler sees it fit to etablish slavery? Every other Jarl has to follow or eat the consequences. And if a Jarl is not okay with slavery he/she can leave that union right? Hahahaha, yep but what's the price for leaving? All Jarls that are part of that union don't want to let another jarl leave that union because of traiding and military desadvanges and lots of other stuff. So they will work together to make that leave as expensive as possible so noone wants to follow. If noone is in there union there is no union anymore, so they don't want people to leave that union.

Nexis

Sorry about my tantrum in the post from last chapter, I have to remind me sometimes this is only a fantasy story. But somehow funny how even in that novel history repeats itself in the political environmant. The political environmant is exactly how the thoughts were as the Europe union was founded. If you accept to be part of, you have traiding rights without taxes if you ship them to other countries that are part of, we all help each other out if trouble of financial problems arises, and the only thing you have to add and respect are the Europe union laws additional to your own rules. And your own rules are not allowed to go against Europe union rules. But what happens if those Europe union rules change, because the leadership changes? It could be exactly the other way around where the actual leader is in the position of that guy that wants to marry her, and she wants to change the leadership because for example they favour's slavery. How will she be treated than by that ruler? Exactly how the ruler now described it: "Jarls will be put in there place and dealt with them." The Autor has established the Europe union in the future, just with a "King" as a leader. *gggg*.

SnufflenoseSmooshwhiskers

I feel for Alex. I miss his workshop and tech development.

Azulmar

I am kind of hoping something triggers and he goes all Iron Giant on her.

Einhander

I kinda don't like this passive Alex. I get this isn't his wheelhouse, but he kinda crossed all of known space to keep his independence. Folding like a napkin to angy barbarian lady who cosplays as a viking just seems silly. Dudes smarter than this. Just because the sto is a shit show doesn't mean that a less horrible shit show is good.

Silver Beard

The barbarism of this final bit is seriously grotesque. I hope Alex takes a full measure from 'everyone' going forward in price and tech for forcing him into this BS. His tech upgrade to his fleet- he's got better chance of wasting this Jarl's entire fleet and his 'home world' or any other than wasting time with a time tradition of the medieval age ( which he might lose ).

Merlin's Fan

Hand to hand seemed more up his alley

BookwormLich

Well, I believe Alex would have been better choosing a maze or morning star, but not having joints and articulations in the traditional human way is fascinating for the possibilities, i.e. snakes move with speed and agility and Alex frame reminds me a lot of them.

Gabriel Melnik

Why can't he come with a railgun?


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