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Stop Using Me And My Work For AI
🕑 Added 2024-12-06 03:02:39 +0000 UTCMy stance against generative AI has always been clear and I didn’t think I would need to make such a big post reminding people of it until several people this week informed me of AI chatbots that others have made of myself, my original characters, and my voice being used on characterai/cai.
A lot of people who use characterai seem to think people are upset with them for being lonely or ‘cringe’ and if someone is bullying you like that for using it they shouldn’t, especially as a lot of its users are minors. However, you are doing wrong by using characterai because you are contributing to theft.
Generative AI can generate text, images, voices and more by being trained off other people’s work. In almost all cases the work used is not from consenting artists. AI ‘art’ generators take thousands of artists work that it chews up and spits back out and these artists did not consent. Chatbots and generative writing AI like characterai or ChatGPT does the same thing but with writing. I’ve heard too many people be against AI ‘art’ but use characterai (which has built in AI ‘art’ generation features) because they don’t seem to understand that writing can be and is stolen too. It’s taking from any writing that’s online from fanfics to blogs to articles to tweets. And these writers did not consent to have their work taken and then spat back out by a chatbot. Every time chatbots like these write to you, it is doing so by using stolen work. Even if you got the consent of a creator to put their characters on there, the chats generated are still trained on stolen content. Even if you upload your own characters on there, the chats generated are still trained on stolen content. None of that even touches upon the bad environmental impacts of generating anything with generative AI.
And with this situation on characterai, not only have my original characters been made into chatbots without my consent, not only has some of my art of Arden and Ambrose been reposted on there without credit (I don’t allow reposting with credit either) or consent, but my voice has also been taken and used to train two separate AI voices on there, and someone has made a chatbot of me, a real person. None of this was done with my consent or permission.
I feel violated. I don’t know how else to describe it. I feel sick, I’m shaking, I’ve been having panic attacks over this, I feel so deeply distressed. I thought it was bad enough just seeing people taking Ambrose and Arden and putting them on there, but today I found out there’s a chatbot of me. I’m a real person. Just because you listen to my audios or streams doesn’t mean you know me, because you don’t. I’m sorry to be blunt, but this is so uncomfortable parasocial. And then for two people on there to take my voice to make AI voice replicas of me (again without my consent). I don’t think I can put into words how sick and violated that makes me feel, to have my voice stolen.
As of writing this I have 346 videos up here on my Youtube channel and post videos 3 times a week, you are not starved for my voice or my work. I allow for people to make their own fanworks of my characters including fanfiction. I allow for people to commission others to make art of my characters including fanfiction. You have options that aren’t generating AI content. Reader insert fics exist. Your imagination exists. RP communities exist. You know what I did as a kid when stuff like this didn’t exist? I would copy and paste fanfics into Microsoft Word, find and replace the names with my own/my ocs/other characters and then wow you have a fic about anyone you want (obviously I did not post these online, these were just silly edits I made for myself when I was a minor).
Do not contact, send hate, or harass any of the people on characterai who’ve uploaded my characters or myself onto there (or anyone in general using characterai or generative AI). I don’t want this to be a callout post against characterai users. This post is for any of my followers who do use characterai to please learn about the harm generative AI does to creators, raise awareness, and hopefully get these chabots and voices deleted (especially the chabot of myself and the voices). And if anyone who made any characters or voices of myself or my original characters on characterai sees this: please delete them. Please, please delete them. You are not wrong for being lonely, you’re not pathetic or cringe for using characterai, but you are contributing to the theft of people’s works. Some of you have literally stolen my voice.
If you do go and do research into characterai please be careful as recent lawsuits against them to include trigger topics and these will inevitably appear when you search around. That raises a whole other problem with characterai and it’s popularity with minors as there’s nothing that makes it impossible for the chatbot to be hateful, bigoted, harass you, send sexual messages, etc. I know characterai is implementing safeguards, but even they admit they can’t make it impossible for these messages to be sent.
I am not the only creator this has happened too. When browsing characterai to see how many of my characters were on there I found over 50 of YuuriVoice’s characters, and multiple of other creators like Cardlin and Dark And Twisted Whispers. Including not just the characters, but chatbots of themselves.
It’s 3am here and I’m sorry if there’s any typos in this, I did proof read it I promise, I’m just really tired. I was getting into bed and clearing notifications off my phone when I saw the reply on Tumblr telling me my voice was on characterai. Thank you to those of you who made me aware of this, hopefully at least I can get the AI voices of myself taken down as it is against characterai’s TOS to make voices of real people without their consent. It’s also against their TOS for anything on their site to be impersonating real people. Thank you guys as always for supporting me, I’m sorry for such an agitated post I’m just really upset about all of this. Be safe out there.
Comments
Bloodywren
I’m very, very sorry for both you and everyone else who has shared how their work has been plagiarized. It is especially creepy when it’s you that’s getting ‘stolen’, so to speak. I can see people doing that to characters, but I have no idea what the appeal of doing something so violating to real person would be. It’s gross. I would be upset too.
Prince
i think reading my statement at a school would be inappropriate as i make 18+ content, please don't. i would encourage you to do more research and perhaps find things written by people who are far more qualified and knowledgable about me on these things if you're looking for someone to quote. i don't see why you would need to read out any of my post to be able to talk about peoples intellectual properties and voices being stolen as it's happened to many people.
Joanna_Cole
I'm sorry that this has happened to you. An English teacher at our local school is using the ChatAI for creative writing and the students has brought up the issues that has happened to you. A few students will not use it due to it being AI and do not wish to help content thieves while the teacher says this isn't happening. With your permission I would like to read some of your statement (Stealing your intellectual properties and using your voice without permission) to our school board. I hope you will get an apology and all of your intellectual properties taken down.
Six Rabbits
This just makes my skin crawl. It's so disturbing to think how prevalent this sort of thing is becoming... Genuinely hope it can be removed.
kallum
Omg this is horrible, i’m so sorry i hope the bots get taken down soon. No one should have to deal with this.
Bugz
the fact people go around using other peoples hard work to feed ai and violate very clear boundaries always horrifies me - characterai already freaks me out on a personal level but making one of a real person is so?? very obviously not ok?? especially without consent. i really hope that they get taken down, i cant imagine what it feels like going through this but im so sorry this is happening and you deserve for people to respect you and the work you make. /gen
Prince
Oh absolutely, I've loved Vocaloid since I was a kid but when they made voice banks like Hatsune Miku the voice provider is hired for that, and paid and knows and consents to her voice becoming Miku. But very little of new AI tools are done with consent.
Emilie Katherine
I'm at a loss of words. I don't know why this happened to you Prince and I am so sorry! As someone who found your work through Arden and Ambrose, I truly appreciate whenever you do post them and appreciate the effort you put into them. You work so hard and I just want to let you know that we see it and appreciate you!!!
Hephaestus
What's really crazy to me, and this may be my slight difference in opinion here from the other comments, is that you *can* use ai in a way that isn't awful and stealing, and it's also really fucking easy. Ask people? Like how synthv has ai tuning based off their voice providers, who have consent for their voices to be used and were compensated. It's a more natural sounding tuning and lets producers have more options. It's literally that easy?? Instead of stealing you can just not. Especially with real people's likenesses(vocal and visual)! It's just. Eugh.
Keyboardclicks
Generative AI makes me so angry!!!
Skelotongoblet
That’s just fucking awful, I hope they get taken down asap, ai if just a fucking headache, I’m sorry this happened to you
Fox boy
I’m so sorry people are doing this to you! I’ve tried to argue against generative ai in my personal life but people don’t understand that it’s stealing Your feelings are completely valid, your voice and your writing belong completely to you and it’s so messed up that people are doing this
Black_canary
This is unacceptable and a violation of your privacy. I implore people to think and read the policy. As stated that your work or any artists work are not to be shared outside this platform without premission. Sending u hugs and love, Prince
Percy
This makes me so unbelievably angry, I'm so sorry you are dealing with this right now! As an tattoo artist I have watched as AI has infiltrated my community as well and it is always so heartbreaking to see something that you put so much time and effort and heart into be stolen to be frankisteined into a disaster for someone else's pleasure. Here's hoping all goes well in getting them removed and I just want you to be aware that we do know how much time and effort you put into this, and a cheap imitation will never be able to capture the heart you put into this!
Dante_The_Dreamer
I'm so sorry this happend to you! My art has been stolen for AI generators. I heard about people making generators to copy artstyles of certain artists but making a chatbot of a real person is whole new level of fucked up. I can’t imagine how you must feel after seeing this. I hope we will soon get laws that will keep AI under control because sadly people have no respec for not only other's work but also just for other human beeing at all.
prettynymph
to steal the voice of any person and use it for one’s own purpose is horrible and way crossing the line in and of itself, but to do so to a person who is a voice acting artist who’s livelihood comes from making audios that they put all their care and creativity into is absolutely unforgivable! I am so sorry this happened to you and I hope all that have been reported for perpetrating this problem are promptly reported and removed
Amy G
That's horrible I'm so sorry.
Krissy
Wtf!? Jesus dervamp! Im so sorry! Ai is such a violation.
riv
cannot imagine how you feel rn, hope you’re taking care of yourself and those bots get taken down
Ozzed
Stealing voices is some Ursula type shit wtf.
Khao An
As a fellow artist I’ve always struggled with the idea of AI. Unfortunately I find that if a person hasn’t experienced such violations they don’t really stop to think about how it can affect people. I’m so sorry you fell victim to this god awful trend of AI and I really hope and wish you a safe space to recover. Even though I’m new here I wish you the best <3
Bexxy RMW
I can't imagine terrible I would feel to find a chat it of myself. I am sorry this has happened. I hope they respond to your complaints and remove it quickly.
AlpacaAvalanche
I'm an artist myself and am surrounded by artists most of whom have been impacted one way or another by gen AI, but finding an AI bot of *yourself* must be a whole other level of... unsettling isn't a strong enough word for it but its the only one I can find right now. It hurts my heart as a fellow creative seeing your voice being used in this way. I hope you can get it taken down and that people understand the damage these things cause, not just financially but emotionally to the people who's work is being stolen. And that's before you factor in the whole parasocial self impersonation thing. Absolutely disgusting. I could rant further, but I just came on your patreon to find something to sleep to yay 3am woes. If nothing else I hope you manage to sleep and you find some peace over this, it's an exhausting problem to face. Sorry if this comes across overly personal, it's just UGH, AI can go suck a regenerating piece of soggy toast with 7 fingers and four boobs.
TheBoyWithNoName
This is so fucked. This AI shit is getting out of hand. You have every right to feel violated.
Sam
I am so fucking sorry this is happening to you!! Generative AI is evil for so many reasons and I don’t blame you at all for feeling violated and exploited! It’s insane to me that people don’t seem to understand the wrongness of stealing someone’s work, much less their fucking VOICE!!! So so creepy. Sending you lots of comforting vibes 💖💖💖💖
Prince
I've reported the voices and the chatbot of myself for impersonation. The only other thing I seem possibly able to do is send a DMCA but I'm not a lawyer and don't want to mess around with that. I don't know how good characterai is at taking things down based on flagging/reporting but we'll see I guess.
MxMurder
That's so creepy! Is there any way to request they be taken down from the platform? Sending love
ethel
that is genuinely so messed up, so sorry about this!! not fair to you at all to have your likeness/voice used without your knowledge or consent, wish there were more protections for things like this.
Lilu Boy
Hooooly shit. I am so sorry. This is absolutely vile. Do not apologize for anything this is completely atrocious and you didn’t deserve any of it. I hope to god that shit gets taken down. I am so so sorry you’re dealing with this.
RubyAngel
Oh gosh! I’m so sorry that’s happening to you. It’s so scummy for people to be stealing you work. 😢I hope they get taken down.
