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The Living Daylights (1987)

🕑 Added 2023-12-11 08:00:04 +0000 UTC

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Chris Johnson

Michael J. Fox was shooting Back To The Future and Family Ties at the same time that he was also shooting Teen Wolf.

Jean Cahill

Rodgers dating story: surprise surprise he’s courting yet another impossibly beautiful woman who’s too good for him. Wonder why he’s still single?

Sh'boom Sh'boom

I love that Rodgers follows his former trim to see how those botches will fuck things up😭

K. D. Campbell

It’s also sus because his second wife wrote how she thought he was the antichrist before the wedding and then after they fucked wrote about how great he was

Kyle Daly

That’s real

Deena

Ok what about the Sweet Potatoes

Kyle Daly

This is some bullshit that Cubby Broccoli fully made up and never got checked on! Broccoli is just an antiquated Italian word for "little sprouts"

Adam Lewis

The '80s.

Adam Lewis

Be warned: they are Dad-prime and occasionally end tragically.

Rathercurt Chunhard (Will)

That totally makes sense, that the drink would look more damaged and raw

Clance Scranclenuts

Remington Steele was a woman who was a private eye, but couldn't get clients. She makes up the Remington character to have a male boss. Pierce Brosnan is a con man who ends up pretending to be this made up guy. Yada yada adventures

Deena

Idk how true this is, and won’t investigate, but I read that the vegetable broccoli is named after the Broccoli family - they’re like descendants of Italian aristocracy who cultivated it. Imagine if the Mission Impossibles were made by the Sweet Potato dynasty.

Deena

I heard that Bond preferring shaken martinis is to suggest he’s a little rougher and tougher than the more delicate stirred one with all the fucking botanicals and no bits of chipped ice.

bloodflart

heh

bloodflart

took me 3 tries to watch that

Frosty peaches

Ok cool! My mom read a lot of spy books (so some of the authors look familiar) but I've never read any so I'm definitely open to suggestions on good ones to start with

John Arminio

Yeah, the Boyz make several "pink mist" jokes in this episode, which is nothing but a strange coincidence, haha. "The Pink Smoke" is a reference to the Akira Kurosawa movie High & Low. And just to clarify: it's not my podcast, I am just a frequent guest. Thank you so much for checking it out!

Joe B

Was it this episode that the boyz kept making pink mist or pink dust jokes? Because I honestly thought you were doing a bit at first. Your podcast looks cool, will check out

Will See

Hell yeah

John Arminio

So I love this movie so much, and James Bond in general, that I did a commentary for it with my buddy John Cribbs for his podcast The Pink Smoke. It's behind a paywall so I won't post a link here (you can find it on Patreon if you really want to for some reason), but it was a really rewarding project to be a part of, and something I'm proud to have done. As you can imagine, after taking such a deep dive into this movie, I have an opinion about every aspect of it, so I 'll spare everyone here and just say that I think it and Dalton are pretty great and I love the podcast!

Slurp

Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy would be a great Spycember

GanjaTattoos

I give this episode five Garvey Stars ("60? And I'm at 40? I'll be good." had me laughing for a really long time)

Rathercurt Chunhard (Will)

Definitely. IIRC in one of the books, Bond claims that homosexuals are unable to whistle

Antti

"I thought Christmas only gets creampied once a year."

Wadi

Checklesouvlakia

Adam Lewis

Alan Furst's more recently published WWII-set novels are heartily recommended.

Adam Lewis

A lot has been written explaining Bond being a picky bitch about food and drinks (and everything else: he doesn't like shoelaces) because Fleming was a picky bitch of the pre-WWII not quite rich enough not to work upper class.

Jacob Coy

I think Licence To Kill is the funner movie of Dalton Bonds. It reminds me of Lethal Weapon because Kamen is on the score and it has some crazy, cool set pieces

Mitch Kapa

There was no discussion of what was framed as the most tense part of the movie. Would Bond be able to give it enough gas to drive over a wheel chock?

Slurp

Dalton has an aircraft carrier landing zone for a face.

Jason E Becker

But is The World is Not Enough a Christmas movie?

Antti

He's hot but his hair is lame in this one.

AllegedBeef

The two Le Carré adaptations with Guinness are great!

Megan

My grandfather definitely used the electric carver whenever possible. We did Sunday dinners at their house every weekend and you bet my little bitch ass cried whenever he revved that bad boy up.

Paul

RIP Andre Braugher 😢

Rathercurt Chunhard (Will)

The "Shaken not stirred" thing comes from the fact that Gin has a viscosity that 'bruises' if you shake it (it will develop concentrated dark spots), whereas stirring evens it out. As to why Fleming chose this, no fucking clue other than to demonstrate that Bond is a pauper with refined taste. In the first book, it's more the specificity of the ingredients that are meant to strike you (one of the liqueurs doesn't exist any more) and the "shaken, not stirred" is just the cherry

AFistfulofGwildors

I was gonna make a “clever” comment about how Joe don baker’s military service was method acting for this role, only 30 years before he knew he would be cast, but instead I’ll just say thanks for covering a dalton bond movie

Kyle Daly

Can't believe George Kuffs didn't make an appearance once during all the turkey talk

Frosty peaches

This was fun! Got me thinking about reading some classic spy novels (which I have never done).

Charlie Horgan

on the topic of espionage, the audiobook of Spy Who Came In From The Cold is excellent and bleak. The reader does a good Burton. Also, Gabrus, how cool is all the Moscow Rules spycraft in the BBC miniseries of Tinker Tailor and Smiley's People with Alec Guinness crushing as George Smiley? Probably my favorite spy series.

Charlie Horgan

Old Dalton is somehow even hotter

Gabrus, Rodgers, and Stanger

I didn’t love it, but I do think about it constantly and I like it more now than when I left the theater. Agree with you that it’s very funny.

Andrew Bond

why won't you kiss Timothy Dalton?

Kevin Fennell

How could you Rodgers?!? How could you

Gabrus, Rodgers, and Stanger

I don’t remember because we recorded it a while ago but I thought I said he just didn’t bring sex appeal? Which is a different thing. I also didn’t think the movie was bad. Possible gabrus and stanger just listened and understood me?

David

I had to stop the ep when Rodgers said Dalton wasn’t attractive. That’s like reviewing Pretty Woman & saying it was bad because Julia Roberts isn’t attractive. Gabrus & Stanger have the patience of saints for not laughing in his face for that take.

Secunda Nocta

I have a seven soon to be eight year old and I always appreciate Stanger’s relaying his kid’s responses to these movies. Mine is a huge Indiana Jones (have not done Temple yet) and Star Wars fan but I’m waiting to introduce her to Bond as well as the other 80s action mainstays. Will probably never watch Quick and the Dead with her thanks to this podcast.

Kyle

Making Napoleon a freak the whole movie then ending with how many people died because of him to me was pretty clearly saying “hey isn’t praising people like this pretty stupid” which yeah it is, loved the movie one of the funniest of the year

MB

I wanna talk about turkeys for 4 hours i am a bird cooking master

Daniel_

Chef Stanger. Who knew?

Gil Slits

It scared something else out of me...

Adam Ross

Gladys Knight’s title song is never rated highly against the others, but I still love it

Shaun Boyle

Phillips marketing department asking for a ‘make good’ after Ben’s Panasonic blunder….

Rhinn

Honestly the amount of cum talk at the top of this episode scared the living deadlights out of me.

Scott Tammel

I agree with the idea that Brosnan was a great Bond but just saddled with movies that didn't know what to do with him and were stuck in a weird timing zone of action films. I think Goldeneye is a really good movie and it did a good job of addressing the fall of Communism and kind of quietly modernizing Bond. However as the Brosnan movies went on it just was in an era where they hadn't fully moved to good Hong Kong influenced hand to hand and gun play was also kind of weak so you had some pretty solid set pieces but a lot of action felt clunky (in my opinion) and the scripts were not great. In 2002 you have The Bourne Identity come out and then later that fall you have Die Another Day and they just could not be more different and clearly the direction was moving toward Bourne and less like a shitty CG filled Bond. I liked the opinion by Rodgers that Dalton looks too villainous. I've always like Dalton's bond but he does have a bit of smarminess. In the film Hot Fuzz he uses it to perfection as kind of a smug smarmy prick. I do love analyzing Bond movies though and love hearing the Boyz talk about them. The A View to a Kill episode is great and I've pointed to that one to friends looking for a fun entry point into the podcast so I'm all for more Bond movie reviews.

Conor Hunter

This is totally a time/place movie for me as an 80s baby. It’s the first Bond movie I saw in the theater at 7, and I remember my Dad being stoked on the moment and renting the Dr. No VHS on the way home. I spent a lot of my life defending my love of Dalton, and it’s fun, but it’s just not quite Bond.

IssaHotdogaSandwich

I feel like the reason the critics at the time thought it was too serious and Gabrus feeling it was too goofy is the fact that the movie still has absurd set pieces but isn't in on the joke so the tone is kind of in between. It's almost like when these bond movies are sillier, it masks the goofiness a bit. Like you're in this heightened world so it doesn't feel as goofy as it does in this one like when the russian pipeline worker seduces her boss

MB

Dalton is hot, Dalton is beautiful, but he isn't sexy. He is a sexy villain but not a sexy Bond. Its same problem i have with the Brosnan Bonds. The Dalton Bonds are interesting because you can see the inspiration from like Miami Vice and all the neon-y 80s cop movies. Theres even shades of Manhunter in this bad boy.

Antti

... -ia?

MB

Carey Lowell is so so hot in LTK

Mijo

I can see why the boyz picked to do this movie now. Rosika drops the line "When Pig goes, his control panel will light up like a Christmas tree" which makes it the perfect holiday movie.

Frank Kimball

Jeroen Krabbé is also in a couple of great early Paul Verhoeven movies, ‘Soldier of Orange’ and ‘The Fourth Man’

Beastmaster of the Universe

Dalton is underrated, plus cool car.

JarredPalmer

Stanger's British accent sounds a bit like Donk from Crocodile Dundee II

Brennan Wibbels

As everyone else is saying, you've really gotta try Licence to Kill. Bond as a rogue agent out for revenge, Robert Davi, Benicio Del Toro, Wayne Newton, Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa, ninjas, sharks, cocaine, smokeshows Carey Lowell and Talisa Soto, a whip made out of a stingray's tail, this movie's got it all. It is my favorite bond film (with Casino Royale in 2nd place). It is awesome.

Roscoe 112

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Eliana

surprised you didn't like this! i have only seen 6 other Bonds and this is my favorite that I've seen. i am a HUGE Le Carré head (i've read him like you guys read King) and this is the closest the espionage has gotten to a serious, heady Le Carré identity game

Adam Lewis

Lion in Winter Dalton probably was too young.

Adam Lewis

Yes.

Michael Pemulis

I think License to Kill is the better Timothy Dalton Bond movie. Benicio del Toro gets chewed up by a cocaine shredder. And I think Robert Davi is playing the same character that he does in Showgirls.

Joe B

I was just thinking about Cromwell and the little dog Prince Rupert (Dalton) has with him. Good performances across the board but Alec Guinness really comes across as actual royalty

Canadian Day Player

Watching Timothy Dalton in The Lion in Winter (1968) and Cromwell (1970) you can see his decision to decline the role of Bond because he was “too young” was a mistake.

Chabnormal

Tim Curry as Bond

bloodflart

"hot water burn baby, James." hahah

Chabnormal

I like to listen to the podcast before I watch the film. Every movie is a comedy. It's the best.

Crown Jules

Is this only the 2nd 007 movie covered by dem Boyz?

Sneakaboard

Was it?

Dark Angel Of The Year

Mogwais clearly DON'T swallow. How do you think Stripe got his signature look?

Berko Pierce

I accidentally watched License to Kill instead and that turned out to be one of the most Action Boyz movies ever

Adam Lewis

My musician better half has a number of cellist friends: the stories about airport and aircraft trouble traveling with their instruments are legion, but my favorite is the story of being asked, seriously, "Is that a piano?" By a TSA agent!