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PATRON TIER LIST - Star Trek TNG S4E7

🕑 Added 2024-09-01 12:05:01 +0000 UTC

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Juan Tutrífor

They have no honor.

Mara

Some monster voted D tier!

The Ninth Doctor

I WILL NOT SIT AT THE SAME TABLE AS THAT...

The Ninth Doctor

Easily an S+. Tying together multiple stories from both The Emissary and Sins of the Father - themselves S-tier episodes - into something that will shape Worf and Star Trek indelibly moving forward. Plus, Gowrons eyes staring through your soul is not something that you'll forget 👀

Jovet

@Jim J Well, one reason is to know how old you are. And to recognize your birthday, etc. Unfortunately, faster-than-light travel is sure to mess with that. Even today, it's known that the time dilation predicted by Einstein is a real thing, and that time slows down for something the faster it moves.

JP RFL

Why not use the Greek alphabet? Alpha, Beta, Gamma, etc

Jovet

@Tim b And soap operas.

Jovet

There are much more egregiously-spoilery things posted or linked in this and later posts. I hope the moderators are keeping on top of them (but it doesn't appear they are).

Jim J

The whole idea of a "year" should be meaningless in these space travel shows. Why would everyone measure time in Earth years anyway?

#MaxwellDidNothingWrong

Impossible to detach this episode from its place in continuity - S

Josh Eversole

The introduction of Gowron, one of my favorite Star Trek characters of all time. S Tier by itself, S+ because of Gowron.

Bagofsoup

And you thought the Alien franchise had the only chest buster. Wooorrrrrfffffff!!!!

Silk

😁

Tim b

Specifically, time works differently for alien kids in Star Trek.

Glenn Johnson Barnes

Definitely A tier for me, but it’s always felt a little like 2 separate stories that the writers merged into one episode.

Jeff Lawson

Sela

s0rd3z

I love a good Klingon episode but this falls short for fridging Worf's love interest, kid is annoying but tolerable. I also feel like Worf wouldn't send him away as the honorable thing would be to take responsibility. A-

Spencer Loften

S tier for sure. Best Klingon episode too.

kevin coleman

Brought down from S to A tier for the inclusion of Alexander

Raphael Gaytan

Can’t wait to see your reactions to this episode!! It’s like watching a Klingon Shakespearean tragedy! High drama, high stakes…and Picard has to decide the course of the Klingon Empire?! Absolutely bad ass!! With more lore for Worf, an S-Tier for certain!

valen

Easy S tier.

Juan Tutrífor

HE HAS NO HONOR 👀

Jovet

@Chris S. As I wrote in your dedicated comment, these ratings are not the same as the ABCDF you had in school. It's more of a European-inspired system. A is still the best, and S is the best of the best...there should be very few Ses.

Juan Tutrífor

👀

Juan Tutrífor

Dude, K'Ehleyr is dumping her other kid on Worf. Any degenerate father would see that.

Jovet

Agreed.

Jovet

What I've decided is you need to throw out the "ABCDF" grading system you learned in school. This is a different system entirely.

Juan Tutrífor

They will die slowly... Duras... 👀

Jovet

And a new favorite guest character is launched: Gowron's eyes.

Jovet

Someone who isn't fond of Klingon politics!

Axis 77

Head canon for sure, but makes evolutionarily sense as well. Q'onos is HOSTILE; you want to ween your young ASAP so you can teach them to defend themselves and hunt for the pack...

Axis 77

Yeah: I think 'adjacent' is a little conservative...

JP RFL

True. Will be more careful in the future

Juan Tutrífor

Who the hell voted B-tier

Chris Mickelson

Klingon children grow very, very fast compared to humans. I don't know if thats canon but its definitely my head canon. Otherwise its hard to explain how a 2 year old looks 4.

Silk

Honestly it’s best to avoid anything that even hints at something in the “future” compared to where they’re up to.

Silk

Time works differently in Star Trek

Chris S.

👍🏻👍🏻🖖🏼

Chris S.

Thanks!

Chris S.

Ah. I play video games from time to time, but I don’t consider myself a “gamer”. Does the actual letter S stand for something as in a word?

Tim b

"Special"

John

First S-tier of the season for me.

Jeff Lawson

You will die, slowly...Duuurrraaassss. Love Gowron 😂

JoeCensored

A favorite guest character returns, with arguably an even better performance than before. More Klingon development, with real consequences this time. And what Worf does. Easy S tier.

Jon1701

This has tipped from A into S over the years for me. Such a great episode.

wildhunt1973

It's like with old gaming cards. S-Rank is like a super-rare cards with gold lettering and hologram pictures that are also usually really powerful and you get like 1 card out of a certain number of boxes and not just packs.

JP RFL

I’m hoping not

Dennis Hall

The whole idea of a "tier list" came from video game culture with heavy influence from Japan. That's where S comes from and also why many tier lists have an E between D and F.

Nerd's Gold

That last part might be spoiler adjacent.

Eric Wilson

Superior. Beyond the best grade it really goes above and beyond.

Michael Mannisto

Oh boy, y'all gonna have feelings about this one. Can't wait!

Bob M

petaQ

Andrew Buel

Went back and forth a little between S and A before settling on S. Even if you don't care for Klingons or The Moment of the episode I have trouble putting it any lower than A.

JP RFL

Oh…..guys You’re gonna love this one. Klingon Empire, Worf character building, it’s all setting up the end of the season.

Darren Seal

Duras

Chris S.

I posted this below to a response, but why isn’t an A+ the highest grade, like in school? What does “S” actually stand for? Is it like “Super” or something like that?

Chris S.

To be honest, A+ is the highest grade in school. I never really understood what “S” stood for. It should be A+ - F. Does the S stand for a word? I think A should be the highest letter, but its their call.

THE LORE!!!

It says "we won't be looking at this until after the episode." So I assume it's safe🤷‍♂️

Prof Moff

I do not like the Klingon story lines but even I think this is an A

Chris S.

(They read these after the episode right?) I wanted to make sure because I was gonna post the same thing! Lol

Regan

Who the hell voted for D?!?

THE LORE!!!

Somewhere between A+ and S- The pure satisfaction from Duras getting his comeuppance automatically makes it above an A.

Chris Moe

If this isn't S, nothing is...

Jovet

A+ to me. Everything can't be "S".

Eric Singer

This one is full of twists. S-tier all the way.


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