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DARMOK, Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! S5 Ep2

🕑 Added 2022-01-11 18:01:01 +0000 UTC

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SnabbKassa

I didn't take this episode the same way this time as before. It's not just Worf who assumes they must want to fight. It's also the humans. Troi doesn't. Geordi, as usual, times the execution of his clever idea perfectly to make things go wrong.

Dan Williams

The planet has a very short day-night cycle...

Dan Williams

Paranoia about others being bent on violence, and so we react in violence, even if it's not necessary...

Dan Williams

The Best episode??? Maybe.

Alexander Caldwell

The Internet's favorite Mid-Western reprobates over at Red Letter Media have the actual rubber latex head/mask of the "beast" from this episode; they have it on display in their studio, and take great pleasure in abusing it for a cheap laugh (Mike Stoklasa is, of course, a massive Trekkie, and it's clearly a prized possession of his).

Brett Delbridge

Who thinks Katrina’s about to get a new favourite character!?

Timothy Hennon

Picard, his face in palm! Spock, his eyebrow raised! Wesley, shut up by Picard.

Time Lord

Yes!!! It was so wild!!! -Kat

Chris Neumann

So Katrina, wondering, when you were editing this episode and you had to watch the Tamarians again, did you find yourself understanding everything they're saying? Isn't that a trip?

Gainz 4 Dayz

Love that Odyssey class starship on the screen while the video is playing. Great reaction

Jonathan Bruser

Picard. His tea, earl grey. And hot! This is a favorite episode of mine. Love the positive message of risking so much just for the chance to communicate with others. Very hopeful.

Andrew Hogan

Depends on the fight. If it’s hand to hand combat, I’d probably lean towards Sisko, but if it was a battle of wits I might lean more towards Picard.

Andrew Hogan

Ah yes, the great Captain debate….

Gibraltar-1859

Sisko, hands down. However, that doesn't mean Sisko's the better commanding officer. In my opinion, Sisko's a close second to Picard in the CO rankings.

trylikeafool

I had a good father, but still looked up to Picard as a role model. And yes…the episode later you mentioned is another favorite of this season for me.

trylikeafool

This episode is in my top 10 of TNG. Easily. It made a big impact on me as a kid, and it’s still just as good.

Brett Delbridge

Who’d win in a fight between Picard and Sisko??!!

Brian Hakala

I love how genuinely invested Katrina gets in these stories! So cool to watch the episodes again through the eyes of a newcomer. I heard this particular episode was played during language study courses at college.

Brett Delbridge

Imagine Ashley Judd had become the new crew member!?

Brett Delbridge

I remember being a teenager watching this at 11pm on a school night going “what the hell is going on in this episode?” I think I’ve come to like it more as I’ve gotten older though

Nolan

An Adventurer perhaps?

Nolan

Katrina: "I F$#%ing LOVE Star Trek. The viewers: Katrina, her eyes OPEN! Funny how our own society is moving toward this with how meme's have proliferated online discourse. How would an alien culture interpret a tweet with a gif from a show in response to another?

Arthur Gatward

Here it is, the episode i joined Patreon for.

e com

I didn't tear up this time until the first officer on the Tamarian ship said "Temba at rest" I almost made through the whole episode

BURKE Wells

Katrina, you’re not being fair to Kirk as you were not fair to Star Trek when you and Paula first watched Dr. Who together. You’ve watched 6 episodes of TOS compared to how many TNG episodes. I know a lot of Star Trek fans who love Kirk more or equally to Picard. Be opened minded and not let Paula’s uninformed bias towards other Star Trek shows effect your judgment. That intro music you love is from the 1979 Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Paula probably doesn’t even know that’s where it comes from.

Raja

Same here. Didn't remember that the Lefler character debuted in this ep.

Jay Fleming

Picard is the person you want with you if you want to begin to understand an alien culture. He is cautious, but open. Patient and willing to accept that someone else may be as intelligent or more intelligent then himself... or just different in how they communicate. One of the most fundamental parts of being human is learning to communicate with others. All our hopes, all our dreams, all our futures depend on connection. Think about how our ancient ancestors first spoke to neighboring tribes... the danger of that first meeting... how often it turned into violence and conflict and war. But somehow at some point, these small tribes begin to speak to one another, and over time they formed a larger tribe. Darmok is about that moment. The moment where we open our hand, and actually listen, even when it feels like we cannot bridge the gap. In this case the other Captain is the one who reached across first... and fortunately Picard was there to take his hand. This is in my top 10 episodes for this show.

Thomas88

I dont know if its the same in your case, but many people who say, they dont like the rewatch of this episode is because the keyelement is missing. If you see this episode for the first time, you dont know whats going on, you dont understand any of it and you learn that new "language" alongside the crew and when captain Picard enters the bridge to talk to the Tamarians you can understand every word. Thats a problem with the rewatch, because you already know their language. But its one of the best episodes ever, this was TV you will never see again. This episode is used by university s to show students the ways of communication. But seeing this episode means, we have to wait 49 weeks to "Ship in the bottle"

Kirk Deighton

The audience at Patreon, their smiles wide.

DarkAshtar

I read the Epic of Gilgamesh in HS, I hadn't seen his episode of TNG in my youth, but before Picard explained it I was thinking about that part. I remember in 10th grade as a project we had to do a performance piece to interrupt our feelings on the Epic of Gilgamesh. I read the parts of Enkidu's death to the song of Unforgiven by Metallica. Got an A, the mood of Unforgiven definitely represented the sense of that moment in the story.

Keith Goodnight

There's a bit of brilliant worldbuilding in this episode: when Picard looks at the Tamarian captain's journal. If their spoken language consists entirely of metaphors, what does their written language look like? Like a network of lines connecting different symbols together.

DarkAshtar

an entire language based on idioms.

Christine Ester

I absolutely love you two. My fellow star trek fan along with the newbie ( A Picard and Data gal as am I) who is absolutely loving this show. Many life lessons in this show and it is so amazing that no matter the generation it can still teach and is still relevant to this day and age. I love being on this TNG Journey with the two of you amazing women! Kat and Paula at uhm I can't think of anything lol

Mark Ten

Picard of the new jacket. Picard on bare ground sleeps. Who cleans the leather? Red suede, so easily stained.

Henchman Twenty1

The ending where Picard touches his hand to the knife and then to his forehead in remembrance. So good.

Kathy A

As Peter said above, the idea of this ep inspired the DW ep Midnight. Here’s his quote: I've seen lots of Star Trek: The Next Generation, I think it's a lovely show – but there's one episode, the billing for which is so fascinating I've actively avoided ever seeing it," Davies explained. "I love the idea so much, I'd rather think about it. Forever. The episode is called 'Darmok', and the synopsis simply says that Captain Picard is trapped on a planet with an alien who can only talk in metaphors. Wow. That sounds brilliant. How does that work? What happens? How does it end? I've got no idea – not seen it! But it keeps resonating with me. I've just looked up its TX date, and it's almost 20 years old. I've been thinking about that story and its potential for almost 20 years! Would it have sustained itself for that long in my head if I'd seen it on BBC2, long ago in 1991? I think the mystery keeps the concept alive. Here I am, still wondering, right now! And I can see the idea bleeding into my own work. In 2008, I wrote a Doctor Who episode called 'Midnight'. Is it like 'Darmok'? I don't know. But stripped down to its essentials, it's a story about a hero, an alien, and words. That's practically the same billing. Maybe the two shows are profoundly different, but I know for a fact that all those years of wondering about 'Darmok' led me to that script."

Jarrod Wild

This one's got one of my favorite scenes in all of Star Trek, that last scene with Picard and Dathon by the fire, when Picard tells a story from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Just sucks me in and moves me to tears.

Hugo Fitzpatrick

Katrina on the ocean, TNG on netflix, Paula her arms open, Katrina and Paula on Patreon, Katrina her eyes wide.

Pickupthepieces76

Imagine if Worf was captain and beamed down. He would be like, hell yeah, give me that knife and you're going down! Dathon and Worf at El-Adrel. When the slaugher began.

Colin 3of5

One of the best.

Brad Barter

I love how they made his blood colour white and not red as usual to signify how alien they are plus the transparent beast was really cool in how it looked and sounded. The actor who played Daython their Captain was in Terminator as the police chief as well as one of the TOS movies but I won't say which one if you plan to watch them on your channel. His name in real life was Paul Winfield RIP to such a great and talented actor.

Peter

I think Kirk gets a bad rap in being compared to Picard. They are definitely different characters and were completely different people when they were younger. From what I understand Kirk was 'book-smart' but learned to loosen up whereas Picard was wild and learned self control. Perhaps it is also a matter of contrast against their respective 1st officers. Kirk looks more of a hot head next to a cool and logical Spock. Picard looks like a stiff intellectual next to the more wild Riker. TOS writers would probably not of considered this kind of script for Kirk though. I see both Captain's as explorers and diplomats but, Picard has the heart of a poet. I haven't quite put my finger on what word would describe Kirk's heart.

Dan Crucy

Katrina has been assimilated. Her biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own.

FalcorDragon

Kat, Her eyes wet... Paula, her grin into Narwhal... :)

Mike

At first I was confused, like there's no special female guest star in this episode. Then I was like "oh HER..."

R. Chang

I'm with Katrina. Captain Picard will always be my captain and the greatest Starfleet captain of all time. He also may be one of the greatest surrogate television dads of all time. For all of us who might have had bad/neglectful/absent fathers, you could not ask for a better example of how to be a good man (or a good person - don't want to exclude anybody) than Captain Picard. There's an episode later this season where Picard gives someone a dressing down that I remember feeling in my bones. The idea of disappointing Captain Picard honestly has kept me on the straight and narrow more than once.

Henchman Twenty1

My brother and I would refer to Picard's new garment as his stud-boy jacket. In truth Mr. Stewart disliked the way the regular uniforms fit (See: The Picard maneuver) so he requested something else. Hey, Kirk had his green tunic thing.

Peter

This episode is one of my all time favourites. According to the dvd special features, this episode has been used by linguistics teachers to help their students with how language works and evolves. Also, it might interest Katrina that the idea of this episode inspired Russell T Davies to write the Doctor Who episode, Midnight. He never watched Darmok but was inspired by the blurb for the episode.

Kathy A

This episode is definitely in my top ten, occasionally moving into my top five episodes list. It really is a terrific example of great science fiction, using the sci-fI genre and tropes to delve into the universal subject of communication. The writers have created a language that is at first incomprehensible to both the Enterprise crew and to us, but by the end, we really get what they are saying! Rewatching this ep is a delight as a result, especially the conversation between Dathon and his Number One. You can tell when Dathon is telling the other to chill out, literally! Paul Winfield is so good as Dathon.

EricH86

I grew up on TNG and I always thought this episode is amazing, but felt the idea that no one would catch on they spoke in metaphors instantly was kinda silly. Which is why I love watching Kat watch these for the first time. She's gotten so good at recognizing where the episode is going and what is going to happen, so the fact she is completely confused by their language really shows what a great idea it was. So appreciate your watch through.

Arek Schneyer

This was my Grandfathers favorite episode, it’s my mom’s favorite episode, and it’s my second favorite episode. We love the communication, the metaphors, the problem solving.

Jared Abrahamson

This one of my favorite episodes. It is the perfect story to show what Star Trek is all about

Henchman Twenty1

To this day my brother and I still use the phrase "Shaka" to refer to a failure, something not working, or a celebrity passing away. When using it for an actor we'll use a character name they played or famous line they said as a reference. Just recently I told my brother "They call me Mr. Tibbs!" - Shaka, when the walls fell when I learned of Sir Sidney Poitier's passing. If you've never seen In The Heat of the Night (the 1967 movie), I highly recommend it. Powerful film.

Daryl

There seems to be some kind of misunderstanding..... I'm not part of this tier. A nice added bonus tho.

fcast17

This is one of those episodes that I can recognize it as one of the greatest Star Trek episodes ... but one I just don't like to rewatch by myself, and I'm not entirely sure why. ... Regardless, I'm excited to see Kat's first time to watch!