KozukeHajime
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The plan >:) (part 2)
🕑 Added 2020-10-15 23:21:46 +0000 UTCHello there :o
Here are some other things I'm adding :P
Wench Auras
I mentioned the info about the auras in this post https://www.patreon.com/posts/some-stuff-im-39691136 so here I wanna mainly talk about the idea and things that will work with them.
One of the things I had in mind while making the wench followers is how useful they were againts other wenches.
I mainly play with deadly wenches so the wench followers helped a lot and if you used hateful wenches you kind of need them :P
The idea was to have followers that are useful againts my mods or other hard mods, the problem here is depending on how you wanna play if you are just fighting vanilla enemies you may end up doing nothing as the player.
Some people like to be a support character and just use several followers to do everything but personally I just use one follower or I even prefer to play solo. So the auras idea is for those types of players and set the wenches in a support role.
One of the new options in the MCM is the option to tweak the wenches followers damage and the damage they recieve. One of the problems with Skyrim's way to handle difficulty is that when you set a harder difficulty your followers become stronger since they are considered npcs like the enemies. With the MCM you will be able to counter that:
These are the settings:
-Wenches damage dealt: 10% 25% 50% 75% 150% 200% (of total damage)
In other games, followers are just there to poke the enemies, they are not really there to kill them (unless they poke them enough). The idea of the auras is to make the player stronger while you have a "weak" follower.
I was thinking on setting the damage of the wenches to 25% by default to follow that idea since they will give you some auras so you are the stronger one.
I'm still balancing some auras so the player isnt op too lol but in any case the auras can also be disabled with the MCM if people don't like them. I personally think they work really well with a "weak" wench follower while she makes you stronger so its also nice to have her around :P
Obviously you can change a wench damage to 100% and also get her aura, or you can have several wenches doing 10% damage and you become stronger with several auras, everything can be disabled/enabled in the MCM so people can play however they want.
-Wenches damage received: 2x 3x 4x 5x 6x 7x
For example if you wanna play in legendary difficulty without the MCM settings Yuriana will be way too tanky since she will recieve 1/4 of the total the damage dealt by other npcs thanks to the difficulty change.
To counter that you will need to set the wenches damage recieved option to 4x and if you want to make her equal to how the player is set in legendary difficulty you will need to set it to 7x
I was thinking on maybe adding the option with a spell or something so these tweaks can affect other followers since imo they may help a lot if you think a follower is too powerful for your playstyle.
Some auras will be available depending on the wenches traits or state like in the next systems:
-Companion/Squire/Slave systems.
Wench Companion:
One of the things requested was for the wenches to have its own follower system.
Wenches will still be able to use the usual skyrim follower system, so you can use a modded one if you prefer.
The companion wench system here is pretty much how vanilla skyrim follower system works. Only difference is that you can have unlimited amount of wench companions.
I may add more options here but like mentioned its pretty much a custom follower system.
-Wench Squire:
Okay this is where things are different. A wench squire wont fight at all and she will avoid combat. This is the option for solo players who just want a support follower.
Wench squires will give you a special "squire aura" just available when a wench is set as a squire.
Squire auras don't stack and the aura is only available when you have at least 1 squire.
For now I'm setting the main functions of the system but some things planned for squires are:
-To prepare/give you food.
-To recharge weapons enchants.
-To gather ingredients.
-To make potions.
-To become merchants.
-To make/have arrows.
-To give you other buffs like:
-Maintained weapons. (you get a damage buff).
-Maintained armor. (You get an armor rating buff).
-Take care of mount (give you mount speed).
-etc.
-Mainly ideas of little things a squire could do.
Most of the options here will be available after unlocking them with gold. I dont think they should be available by default and it could be a nice way to have a gold sink :P
Also some options will be available to some type of wenches like only mages will be able to recharge the enchants.
Like I mentioned the idea is for solo players who want a wench around. But you can also have a wench squire and use another follower or if you prefer you can have a bunch of squires. Its up to how you wanna play.
-Wench slave:
It will pretty much work as the squire system but with specific auras and other options.
I mainly will add some of the things pahe has like the punishment option and other sex related things related to training your slave.
Slaves will also be able to dance for people for money or just for fun.
Like I mentioned I will manage the dialogues and the idea of the slaves in a concensual way and they will be able to refuse to do some things. So several options will be locked depending on the wench traits or level of training.
One of the things I also wanna add is to be able to tell them to walk on all fours or do some other custom animations. It can be done with other mods but it would be better if its part of the mod by default.
Other idea is to have a "combat slave" but doing just sexual stuff like fucking the enemy or dancing naked to distract them. These are just ideas since this system may be the hardest to tweak but it also has a lot of room for improvements and options :P
-Dialogues.
In this case you can see all options available but the traits of the wenches will unlock or lock them.
There will be more options but I think for now are self explanatory like the prostitute option or the dibella's follower option. For now I wanna focus on setting the bases of the systems so they can be improved later.
In [other options] you will find the hair chainging option or some other general tweaks.
To avoid confusion and a bunch of dialogues I will put all the dialogues related to the systems mentioned before in the [Wench Options] dialogue.
The "Yuriana..." kind of dialogue will be related to the wenches so you can know their backgroundstory and personality. The options to change their abilities or other tweaks will be handled by the MCM or in the [Wench Options].
Many people have custom dialogues options from other mods so I think it will be better if I just add 2 main dialogue options for the wenches.
I will also add more voiceless dialogues since reusing skyrim voiced lines limits a lot what I can put in the dialogues and in some cases it doesnt really make that much sense.
I think voiceless dialogues will help to know more about the wenches and make them more unique also its a way to prepare the mod for the idea to add custom voiced dialogues. There cant be custom voices if there isn't anything to add a voice after all lol.
-Quests.
I want to classify them in different types so I can add new quests in a better way.
-Introduction quests.
A good example is the one for Yuriana: you go to the mine, you rescue her, you remove the chains and go to the temple with her. After that she is a working follower with some options available depending on their traits.
This is something that all wenches should have. Just a simple introduction of who they are and what happened to them, it could be shorter, longer or could be something for a group of wenches like the "captured wenches" quest. It can also be something like Supay's book.
Pretty much something extra so its not just a wench at an inn.
-Specific wench quests.
After you rescue a wench other quests should be enable to know more about her and gain her trust. Similar to how in other games you have like a loyalty/friend quest.
For now the only one available is the main quest related to Yuriana. For the others there aren't really any other quests or something to continue their story.
So this is something I will add to all wenches too. This goes with the trait system and unlocking things depending on the wenches and their quests. Its also a way to make the wenches more unique and improve them.
Obviously they are not going to be long quests like the main quest, they can be one or several small quests related to a wench but the main point is that they are not needed for them to be followers since that is handled by the introduction quests, so if you just wanna use them as followers you can pretty much ignore these kind of quests.
Other optional quests may be something related to some choices, for example Shavanne has a quest if you agree with Rolff about hating the dark elves and the argonian. I think thats kind of cool :P so I may add more like that one.
-Main quest chain.
The mod's main quest chain, they are pretty much the quests related to Yuriana and Ashra.
This quest chain also works as an introduction quest for some wenches like Ashra, Maise and Urmay.
Some other future wenches will require the progress of this quest too.
I will try to avoid using this questchain as a requirement to get wenches unless its really needed for the story of the mod.
Currently the quest needs some changes too (like the way you meet Ashra).
The plan is to update it and add more stages and stop in specific parts. For example now it stops when Ashra gets the necromancer book. Next quests are about what happens because of that. They will also stop at some point and so on until the main quest is completed.
-Radiant Quests.
Mainly related to prostitution, slaves and Dibella followers for now. The idea is to add some radiant quests that any wench can be part of depending on their traits.
Like having sex with a specific client, rent a wench or complete some random task with the wenches. Mainly things to do with the wenches not related to their story and more related to their traits.
Useful to use to train wenches and change their traits too. Also totally optional.
-Misc Quests.
The cards/posters/shields quests. I will also move them to the misc section in the quest log.
I plan to add a "wench milk bottles" quest too. :P
Mainly just optional quests to do something and get something related to the wenches that are not required for anything.
-Quests Skips
If you are like me and you played the quests a lot you probably want a way to skip them and get your wench follower right away :P
I will add the option to skip the introduction quests for the wenches. But in case of Yuriana I won't do it since its required for the main quest. Also its not really that long.
In case of the captured wenches and Khythaela they will be available in their specific inns like if you rescued them and their introduction quests will be considered completed.
Shavanne's skip is pretty much buying her so not sure there :P maybe with the skip I can reduce her cost to 0.
For Ashra and Maisie, they will be enabled by default. (the main quest will work as usual)
This skip wont finish the main quest or skip some of its stages, same with specific wench quests. The skip is to complete introduction quests and have a wench ready to be a follower as if you rescued her. So it depends on each wench.
The idea of this quest skip option is to enable the wenches as followers as soon as possible.
To be continued... :P
There are still some things I wanna mention in future parts that are still related to these posts ;)
-Enemies and tweaking difficulty of the mod.
-Rescuing/capturing subjugated wenches and public executions mod.
-Adding new wenches: how to handle new quests, quantity and quality.
-Outfits/Armors, physics and bodyslide.
-Skyrim LE, SE and maybe DE? (Definitive Edition :P)
-Compatibility with other mods. (sexlab, flowergirls, etc).
-SFW option. (aka "I wanna play the mod when people are looking")
-Cheating, enabling extra things/options disabled by default.
-The wench brothel and future wench dungeon.
-Immersive Wenches, its expansions and maybe other new mods.
-Side stuff I wanna do (visual novel or other things not related to skyrim but related to wenches :P)
-Suggestions.
Maybe you have a question about something I didn't mention or related to the previous post, so feel free to ask so I can respond or include that in another post ;)
Thanks for reading again and have a nice week. :D
Comments
Kozuke Hajime
Its the current patreon goal. There are like 200 wenches who need that change too xD
Kozuke Hajime
It used the default lighting system but its set to be dark, it was brighter before but imo it didn't look that much of a brothel, but I agree that it may be too dark in some places and it may need more "spotlights". I plan on tweaking it too and I will mention the plan related to it in another post :P
Wachintonqa -
Wow, I want to see what you come up with. But can you make all wench (including those wandering around the land of Skyrim) have buxom body, LOL
Drew C
Hey Koz, I've been meaning to ask but do you use something other than the default in-game lighting system? The reason I ask is because it's always seemed (to me at least) very dark and hard to see inside brothel and wondered if that was because it wasn't built with the default lighting system.
Empress
Yeah something like PAHE would be awesome, especially if you can make it better
Kozuke Hajime
Its the idea :P I will talk about the subjugated wenches in the next part ;)
Kozuke Hajime
It is lol I was adding several things these past months and pretty much preparing the mod for future updates since this can't work without some bases like the traits. Several things will require more time too like the quests. But with a plan it will be better and its a matter of adding the things needed gradually.
Irinotecan
I like to use PAHE to enslave defeated enemy (deadly/forgotten/judgement) wenches. It would be nice if the subjugate wench spell could let you put the enemy wenches into your enslaved wench system you are planning as well, so I could get buffs the the aura from them.
Old One
Sounds like some epic new stuff is on the way!
Otherwords
Sounds like some really great ideas. Everything in this post would be amazing in my opinion. I just worry it may be too much for one person to accomplish. A lot of work! o.o
