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(Enchanting Melodies) Chapter 48: The Howling Banshee

🕑 Added 2023-04-17 12:36:57 +0000 UTC

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athass_prkr

I ended up changing it a little. I was planning on making it some unspoken rule of Gryffindor that punishments be done privately, and that she would have called Neville back later and laid into him, but changed my mind when I saw how many people just disliked this on principle. I guess it's not going to count as a spoiler since I'm not doing it anymore but yeah, that was the plan for this tidbit. Yeah, I know it's my story and everything, but it was such a small detail that I didn't really care about, that would have at best ended up being an easter egg somewhere in the next few chapters, especially since I'm starting something big in them. So, I just changed it a little just to make sure people don't misunderstand where I was going.

Astral Aion

Not sure if we read different drafts or not but what I read had McG call both Harry and Neville away then she punished Harry for breaking the rules because it’s a fact he did break rules wether it was self defence or not and his punishment was simply a detention for 1 evening no biggie there and then she began to scold Neville after which is normal since they have already deducted house points and given him detention for the foreseeable future the only other real option is to expel him which they obviously can’t do as he is the BWL as for your talk about how to write a story of what you said about choosing an ending and writing to achieve that ending making a story bad was true then Harry Potter must suck since JKR wrote the ending first before anything else although I will admit you were right about it being something that can limit the potential of a story by confining characters to a set path instead of the paths they would choose based of their own character design if the author isn’t careful overall I think your hating a great deal unnecessarily about it being cleared up in a later chapter which is something common for any story posted in small bite sized chunks like this one

Dull Pen

Personally, I do not even care about Neville, I just want him gone. Why would I care about some spoiled kid? It sounds like you are making Nev the main character of the story even. He is the one who was raised as the hero, but is instead a spoiled brat, and you want him to overcome that conflict... so what the heck is Harry doing in this story?

Dull Pen

athass_prkr, you mean the first year points he gave? How is that being favoring a student? The kid was involved in a murder! That is just cliche harry potter fandom theories, the most popular one among the Dumbles bashing crowd in fact, along with "for the greater good!" tropes, of Dumbles raising HP as a sacrifice because he was unable to get rid of the Horcrux otherwise, or believing a kid could do anything BUT die to Voldemort, so never even trying to train him, help him in any way. Again, those are tropes and fan theories. But for every such theory there is a contradictory one. You shouldn't base your writing on fan theories from the fandom. It should be instead based on the writing itself. The reason why kids become like this is because teachers and parents treat them special or different then others. And that is the whole issue I mentioned. You WANT to make Neville be a spoilt kid, and you are making the characters give him special treatment... the issue, is the WAY you are handling it. It is unrealistic. You are forcing characters into neat little boxes for them to be able to act a certain way. Why did McG only call on Harry? Why is she saying he should be more mature? In real life, what should instead happen is that either: - McG ignores Harry's side completely, says something like "well that is not what I saw Mr. Potter", because it wouldn't be the first time a kid went "but but.. he started it!". This did not happen, since she knows Harry is too smart to do that. - McG ignores Harry's side, saying something like "Mr. Potter, I know Neville well, he would not attack someone without reason". So her being clearly on Nevs side, for whatever reason. Neither happened. Instead she saw Potter attacking, called him out. Harry answered he was defending himself, and she calls him to talk in private. Where she basically admits she knows he did not start it, nor was he the only one involved. Yet only punishes him, while also clearly saying this. People do not do that. They do not go "yes, I know you are right child, now go do sit in the corner for an hour". When punishing someone they have to feel in the right, because basic human emotions demand it. Either by lying to yourself or doing actions that would be contradictory to the situation. She should have rather let them all go with a warning, or punished all of them lightly, or when being called out by Harry, either gotten defensive, or again, just told him to leave to get out of the situation and put it into her "mentally ignore" pile. This is the issue with it. The same issue many of your characters are having. Whataboutism isn't a normal reaction for people to have. Unless you are psychopath or a politician, this way of handling conflict is NOT normal. And even when they aren't using whataboutism, you do not give clear cause and effect when it comes to peoples actions. For example, Nev and Draco being obsessed with each other. Yes, you came up with a logical reason why, and why they involve Harry. Yes, Nev might have been hurt that this kid that he imagined as is best friend would ignore him, but... Why would the kid go after him constantly? Especially when Harry ignored him initially? He acts like the abused part in a romantic relationship, even though he gets hurt by the other, he goes back to him? That only happens when people get attached to someone a lot. Nev only just met Harry this year, sure, maybe he had the idea of it. But... when a kid say, wants to know their dad, that left them. They might imagine it in a thousand ways. But if their meeting ends up being disappointing they do not keep going back over and over hoping for a different outcome. Are they cases where people are actually this stubborn? Yes. Would Nev's reason and personality fit it? No. It would be far more realistic for Nev to basically ignore Harry, as if didn't exist. This kind of calling him names... that is not how people and their feelings and actions work. Draco, in canon, did not hound Harry because he wanted to become his friend and got hurt at the start. He hounded him because his pride got damaged, because he was thought that he gets what he wants and when he does not he should try harder, he bullied Harry with names like "Scarface" because that would make him feel better, because if you have low self esteem, or, if you value yourself by comparing your standing to others, then yeah, putting others down is how you make yourself feel better. Draco didn't do it because he liked Harry as a person, Harry probably wasn't much of a person in his mind, but just a thing, the Boy Who Lived, who looks down on him, and such. That was my point, and while you say "it will be cleared up next chapter"... This is not something you can clear up, at least I believe so. You say it yourself, you wanted to write a story were Nev is a spoiled child and you "fix him". Yeah well, that is now how characters work. You do not set out to write a character they want them to be. They are shaped by the world, their actions, other people and other people's actions. And it can be felt. Characters aren't acting in a natural way because you make them do something to fit this specific plot you want to execute, then go and try to resolve WHY they did this, instead of them doing something because of that WHY to being with. And it shows in the writing. And that is the issue. You set out to write a certain character, this is how he starts with and this is how it ended. And that is the issue. You do not start off with "I'll write a story about how a kid who has his parents murdered, turns into a hero to make sure nobody loses his parents again". No, you can start off with a kid like that, and sure, you might end up with a hero.... But the issue is you set out what your character is going to be from the get go, completely limiting what and how everything should happen to him and how he should react. Not only would the writing be bad from the get go, but who would want to read a story where the end result is already set? The whole point of reading a story is to enjoy the path to the end. Be it a kid who got his parents murdered, becomes a hero, or becomes also a murderer who hunts other murders, or just becomes a murderer due to mental scarring, or just becomes a normal person, by overcoming his past and living the best life he can live. Or something completely different. I don't know what the story would be, but whatever it is I'd like to read it... the way you are handling characters is just wrong from the get go.

Dull Pen

Salokin, the issue with your post is "we might presume a similar meeting with Longbottom will be coming". We should not presume this. We should have seen it this chapter. We had two students being found, one attacking the other, so unless one needs to go the hospital, the fact McG ONLY picked up Harry to talk to directly is already an issue, anyone doing proper conflict resolution be it among adults or in school, knows you pick everyone involved and question them, if possible separately to find out the truth. That is simply realistic and good handling of school conflicts. You do not take the first kid you THINK might be responsible, and take him for questioning, then not even question him but clearly state it is his fault for not being responsible enough (even though there is no reason for him being expected to be more responsible). And ignore the others involved. You are implying she ignore Nev, put will go find him later? Why? Why would she not pick him up right away, but instead go search for him around the castle later? Makes no sense...

athass_prkr

McGonagall isn't really being antagonistic. It's really hard to explain without giving away too much but she's as strict with Neville as she was with Harry. This is just Harry's point of view of it. The Neville antagonism is kinda understandable which I'm going to explore soon. But as for the Abbott kid, it's very understandable. The fire of Godric's Hollow will be a major plot point and this is just me laying the groundwork. You have to understand that Harry isn't really known. In fact, the only people who know him are either because of the fire or because of personally knowing his parents. Most people are apathetic towards him, but the ones who care without meeting him will either be disappointed because he's been sorted in Slytherin, not care and care for him anyway, or blame him for the fire (Which is a very big deal.)

athass_prkr

Yeah, and they'll be consequences for that. In Canon, Dumbledore massively favoured Harry, especially with the whole thing with the points at the end of the year. Sure they weren't bullies like Neville, but Ron had it in him, to be honest. Neville is pretty much what I see any extremely spoilt kid becoming. He's not an antagonist in this story. I want to slowly redeem him as he learns his place in the world. His actions will have consequences, and Hermione will be the first to call him on his bullshit. I'll try not to spoil anything, but that's the direction I'm going for. So, yeah, like I said, I don't want to make a one-dimensional story. I like that you're being critical, to be honest, but you kinda misunderstood what I'm going for. Just wait for the next 2 chapters and you'll understand what I'm trying to do.

Salokin

Ron just wants to be friends with the BWL, and bailed on Harry multiple times. If Harry was a bully in cannon Ron would have followed along behind him and egged him on imho, especially first year. Ron was definitely a bully in cannon, its just that he bullied (mostly) other bullies. BWL!Longbottom has quite a bit of WBWL energy, like he was raised as a celebrity child who has never really been told "no" before, and with a piece of a dark lord on his forehead. BWL!Potter was an abused child, who wanted to be treated as something called "normal" despite that being impossible, with a piece of a dark lord on his forehead. Maybe Neville will chill out second year, although I suspect that Harry being acused of being "heir of Slytherin" will still happen.

Gummyking2

Not really cause Harry and Ron weren’t bullies in canon. They stuck to their own business most of the time, unless it was regarding the stone. No one had a problem with Neville being on the quidditch team like the traditional canon favoritism. Harry and Ron never went up randomly to people and tried to attack them.

Salokin

Considering some of the early decisions and world building were more "making sense" I am convinced that the author is showing Dumbledore blatantly favouring Neville and Gryffindor House is kind of cannon. McG's stance of "not here to talk about Longbottom" is reasonable~ish for a teacher to take considering this is a one-on-one with Potter and we might presume a similar meeting with Longbottom will be coming. But yeah, it makes more sense if we assume this is what the first book might look like if the Gold3 are not the pov for all of these events.

Gummyking2

I think the story is just starting to feel strange because almost everyone is actively antagonistic towards Harry. He has main character enemies/energy that shouldn’t be there. Like either I missed it or it wasn’t explained but everyone’s after Harry. Montague cause of jealousy, Ron/Neville for no apparent reason, the Abbott kid who blames his parents deaths on Harry, Snape cause his dad, McG just for kicks, and on dumbledores/voldemorts radar. It just doesn’t feel like this Harry is living alongside the craziness of the story but an active participant.

athass_prkr

It should be a little better explained in the next chapter, but McGonagall isn't really being hypocritical. Harry doesn't have a clear view of the situation. You need to remember that reincarnation or not, he's still the student in this situation.

athass_prkr

It should be a little better explained in the next chapter, but McGonagall isn't really being hypocritical. Harry doesn't have a clear view of the situation. You need to remember that reincarnation or not, he's still the student in this situation.

athass_prkr

Not long, it should be over soon

Gummyking2

I also don’t understand how hermione can be friends with clear bullies.. like Ron openly mocked Harry’s dead parents on Christmas

Gummyking2

Well they said that the others already have detention for the rest of the year… but I agree, seems like the teachers are being unrealistically unreasonable

Dull Pen

This is getting unrealistic, in how much the characters are being made to support this plot. There is no logical way for McGonnagal to be, as Harry put it ,"willfully blind" as she is. This is just bad writing at this point. You want to tell a story where Harry and Nev the BWL are hating each other, so you are making it so even if it doesn't make sense for any character to behave to cause this situation. His grandmother should have already been called. Or at least he should have been given detention as well, but no McG only gives Harry detention because he should have "been better". In what universe does this make a lick of sense. Yes people do not always make sense... but generally they aren't stick figures, or cartoonishly evil either. At this point you are just bashing the teacher, from Snape being unfair in Quidditch to McG, to the headmaster... this is borderline a bashing fic now. At least you tried to explain the plot setup on why they are being lenient on Neville, but now even your explanations can cover characters behaving like this anymore.

Gummyking2

I didn’t think we’d see a hypocrite version of mcgonagall, she seemed reasonable earlier.

Karam

How much longer will you spend on year 1


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