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Chapter 20

🕑 Added 2025-08-01 16:00:23 +0000 UTC

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Patneu

You too, I'm afraid, are missing the message for the words, here. Hage didn't tell Tristan to actually go by the official rules and blindly trust in a system that's known to fail. What he was getting at, was that more broadly speaking Tristan botched this by not using the appropriate tools at his disposal for the task. He acted like the cornered rat he was back in the Murk, instead of handling this like the Mask he is training to be.

Andrew Duan

Except when has the watch ever backed Tristan? They act like he should have trusted them to protect him, but it’s literally never happened that way. They were more than happy to let him be kidnapped, more than happy to let him deal with an openly hostile brigade, happy to let him defend himself when people tried to kill him, and only really intervened when he defends himself. When has the watch ever proven to be loyal to him? If I was Tristan I absolutely would have crush the problem that way because from history we know the watch would have done nothing when they came back to kill him. Not saying he was right to poison her, but Hage is full of shit telling Tristan to use the rules. Other brigades flaunt the rules constantly when attacking him

Joseph

Yess Abuela. She is a winnower herself yet she raised tristan like that. What’s her view on this.

Andrew Reise

"until he got the watch back" this seems like an appropriate time to say "Vanessa's watch back" to remind both the character and audience of the source of the watch. Hage's reaction feels like it should be a mix of Abuela and Hage, would love to see more Abuela to get a better sense of the internal Mask conflict. I understand it's meant to be a controlled breaking with Hage/the Winnowers/the Krypteia, but that still seems weird and abrupt even with the time between chapters/books. The violin bringing back Tristan's father's memory is a great addition. Love the Wen and Mandisa interaction, though again parts of Wen's feedback seem more like it should be coming from Abuela. I really would like to see some conflict between how Abuela would like him to act, how Hage would like him to act, and how the 13th would like him to act. I also think that a bit more background on his conflict with Lady Knit and a reminder of the temptation of Fortuna's sacrifice to Gods would be a good addition to the conversation with Wen.

Aguido Horatio Davis

Now, we need two more interludes: the one where Nerei receives Hage’s encrypted letter about how young Tristan is going, and the one where Yao explains to her cabal’s patron.

Aguido Horatio Davis

Wen Duan and Hage take two different yet completely valid approaches to teaching. Now let us see whether Tristan can learn.

Ed

Lets be honest, they dont care about the girl the poison or what is right or wrong, they care it was public, from day one they tell them if someone betray the watch they will be killed by a mask and the one who tell tristan to trust the system almost kill him in a loyalty test after he was used as bait, if the lesson of hage was about consequenses it would have being a fine thing but to trust them, no, i call bull.


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