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Chapter 68

🕑 Added 2024-12-06 05:00:10 +0000 UTC

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Joe Rachman

Oh god I'd forgotten about that...

wine-dark-raspberry

I agree that Evander’s motive doesn’t really match with the Odyssickle’s. You’ve listed good other candidates. As a dark horse, the list should really include Penelope Eirenos, who has direct links to both the Odyssean and the Sickle, and has the letters with info about the prison. Also, and in my heart this counts as evidence, it would be really funny to see Angharad’s reaction if it were true

Pteromys Momonga

So, how is the Nineteenth's ritual to trap the "remnant" god - scheduled for this evening - going to interact with all this? Will they get pulled into the prison layer instead? Will the ritual just fail, with a bunch of spiritual backlash? Or might they actually tear off the Odyssean part of the fused god? That last option might actually be helpful for keeping the Hated One trapped, but I suspect their current ritual would have to be modified and/or powered up for that to work. It might require some unusual Gloam techniques that were believed to be lost...

Pteromys Momonga

I was wondering about Lord Arkol as well, but I'd forgotten about the crossed sickles - good catch! Another possibility is that the Ecclesiast who witnesses have seen is a puppet; one of the observations Maryam doesn't say out loud is that the Ecclesiast might be a figurehead (for Floros, but the same principle could hold true regardless of who the real leader is). Maybe he's a servant who's been given expensive clothing, or there might be some sort of illusion contract/boon involved. He could even be some sort of aether entity like Hooks; we know the aether in Tratheke has unusual properties.

Omri Solan

The Hated One is Kronos! (mostly) 1) Kronos was an ancient Greek god whose symbol is a sickle. 2) He was imprisoned after a bloody war (between gods). 3) In the Greek mythology he was fused with another god (Chronos - the god of time, because the names sounded so similar). Death to Kronos!

A Total Sham

Love it when everything comes together. The Ecclesiast is still the biggest question. I thought it would be Evander, but I'm thinking less and less. Killing for gain doesn't do anything for him, unless you count preventing a coup, but the Hated One promises chaos, and he is a symbol of order. Its too messy, and doesn't benefit him. There is apparently a man in the palace, but its more likely to be one of the attendants rather than he himself. My current thoughts are still aimed at Gule, its part of his purpose here, to make sure the shipyard is destroyed, and a bloody coup and the arrival of a death god right next to the shipyard will wreck it. It also doesn't jive with what his pitch for Angharad was. He said he was in the cult for political control and to heal himself, but neither of those will be brought around with the Odyssean. So i'm very suspicious what he actually wants. The only other party I can think of, besides Flores, is a noble who's been quietly on the sidelines; Lord Arkol. His house symbol is crossed sickles, the shrine Tupoc found was in his lands, and he was at Cleon's houseparty. He just keeps coming up and I'm very suspicious.

A Total Sham

The leashed god's appearance is a good combo. From the Odyssean, it wears old armor, hair like seaweed, and covered in ropes From the Hated One/Sickle, its skin is like cracked earth, and its voice sounds like death From the new combo, it apparently drags something behind something that is enviable, something that you could only get is if you tried to take it from it. As for the targets, some of it is probably political, but I'm curious if some of the targets weren't planned and were just killing. And when it comes to Tristan, there's possibilities. Fortuna says that it can't see him because "He's her's." Maybe it can't kill people with contracts? Or maybe its just that Fortuna's unusualness protects him. The simplest solution is that that if a death is called for, its leashed to only kill its target. It only attacks Tristan when he intervenes to save Temenos.

George R

Loved this chapter

PoiDess

To cover his tracks

Chris O'Hare

Why would he work closely with the 13th to uncover all this? Even before he fell for Song?

Kazz

Has to be. He's at the center at all of this with an incredibly weak position. Killing all his enemies for massive power gain from his God is a pretty strong motive, given that it solves all his problems in one fell stroke.

York

List of things Maryam did not mention to others: - Her ritual to eat Hooks would kill something with a soul right over the seal - She's very hungry due to Hooks drawing on her - The narrative pattern of Tristan being kidnapped - Her questions about how Tristan saved Temenos - Locke and Keys knew about the Harpoon and thus can probably cross the layer - Questions about the Yelllow Earth - That some of the deaths by the leashed god hadn't been explained yet (simple shopkeepers and the like, maybe killed by rivals?)

Daniel

It couldn't see Tristan because Fortuna protected him.

Bobert S. J.

Killing for gain... Nice catch

Quack

They presumably tried to

brch

inside the prison layer…

silvergazer31

another fantastic chapter, but with every new post I get more and more stressed its the chapter Hooks gets eaten. Both because she/it's a fantastic character that I don't want to die AND if it happens at the top of the Hated One's prison like Maryam intends that I shudder to consider how it could go wrong and empower the Hated One.

Lewis

Ahhh, there's the mechanic I was missing to make it all make sense. Gods can fuse. I wonder if there's a tie in to the Almsgiver here, a parallel between bringing pieces together to make a stable saint and bringing pieces together to make a free god?

Joseph

It’s interesting to see how removing the gods name affects it, Part of angy’s god name was taken, why didn’t they take the whole thing.

Hal Victorious

Killing for gain directly over the seal on the Hated One while it is being melded into a god of killing for gain seems like a very stupid way to bumble into setting it free.

Poop McScoop

Extort the shit out of Tianxia. It's pretty clear that the Yellow Eart has ties and mostly exists at their sufferance.

Poop McScoop

So, if you look at the stuff Maryam doesn't say, it's about the leashed God and the assassination targets. That strikes me as critical insights. My guess, the leashed God is the new God; the sea weed may represent Odyssean and the sickle is the death god. It couldn't see Tristan because it's still nascent, and there wasn't any gain for killing him. As for the targets, they may be related to the dead women that form the seal. If their sacrifice imprisoned the hated one, a conceptually symmetrical sacrifice might free him.

Pedro Manoel Fabiano Alves Evangelista

The story showed how Tristram then Angharad became part of the team, and now it's clear that Maryam has to work up as well. It was never a given that she was part of the group. I love how every character had a moment of "this group is so tight, only I am left out"

Poop McScoop

They could also want the skimmer. As for helping them solve the mystery, I think it's a way to control the chaos and a play for time. If Song goes to Evander then he starts to arrest everyone involved, which sets off both coups at the same time. That way they can make more intense chaos once they know what they're looking for / have it. If they do want the harpoon, what devil is almost certainly imprisoned somewhere?

Rune of Doom

What if Evander wants *out*. Whether he's the Ecclesiast or not, it's likely that remaining the Rector will make the rest of his life a constant, high-stress juggling act, for however long it lasts. I need to go re-read the chapter with him and Song talking about the dead young man in the canal, and see if he dropped any hints that he doesn't want to be forced into making those sorts of decisions.

Rune of Doom

Heh. I had the same thought. The identity of the Ecclesiast is the one big mystery we have left, and while there are other candidates, Evander plotting to overthrow himself in order to sacrifice the plotters would be treason of a sort, and then executing him (especially if Song does it would be multiple treasons as well.

Mordred

That is the most satisfying thing I have read in a very long time. It is incredibly satisfying to see a well written mystery come together

Pteromys Momonga

Yes, it seems likely that at least one of the things she didn't say will be relevant. My guess is the thought about Locke and Keys. Those two seem very interested in the harpoon (they wanted "something nautical" as a souvenir). They helped Song pick up on Oduramai's hint, and gave Maryam a bit of a hint about the Odyssean as well (or at least made a point of discussing him, before the Thirteenth realized he was involved). I think they've been "helping" the Thirteenth solve the mystery, and I doubt it's for altruistic reasons.

Pteromys Momonga

I'm actually less suspicious of him after this chapter, though he's still on my suspect list. Oduramai wanted to keep the Rector alive, and the end goal of a giant civil war that releases an angry god doesn't seem like it would benefit Palliades much even if he survived it. All of his enemies might be dead, but Asphodel would be a mess - a severely weakened nation with a shipyard that stronger countries would covet, and a rampaging god that the Watch would feel obligated to handle. The Ecclesiast seems like someone who doesn't care about the crown, and only wants the civil war because it will free the Hated One.

joie01

finally we get a clear picture of what has been happening. good stuff EE

Joe Rachman

Though if it turns out Evander's The Ecclesiast Song foiling his plot, and maybe bloodily executing him, could do wonders for the Ren reputation though not her emotional stability...

Joe Rachman

Well damn. The cult you could just crush and nobles you can arrest. But what can they do about Yellow Earth? Ai is not inclined to believe the truth if it's told to her.

Andrew Duan

Damn. That’s a satisfying picture. It all comes together now.

Karl

Taking out a hit against yourself in order to get laid. 60% of the time, it works every time.

aquaeus

Several times in this chapter, Maryam has an interesting thought but refrains from sharing. Then she complains that she doesn't feel close to the group. She's such a mess right now. And I worry that they're missing something because of it.

aquaeus

Then who sent the assassins after him?

Joseph

And Tristan would say reGain.

PoiDess

My bet's Evander's the Ecclesiast

Runaway_Cactuar

she would argue that she is killing to regain what was stolen~

Runaway_Cactuar

Love how the gang got together and Scooby-Doo'ed this convoluted plot haha

awakeatdawn

Aw guys, see what happens when you work together? Horrific answers!

Cotillion

Ahhh that’s a great catch.

Pteromys Momonga

Seeing how much Maryam had missed Tristan was really sweet. She's clearly been trying not to think/worry about him too much, and I do believe that's one factor in her recent behavior. Having her best friend go missing probably made her even more determined to stop feeling helpless and alone, and we've seen how every member of the Thirteenth tends to make dangerous decisions when driven by trauma.

Alex Stone

Hot damn. I love it when all the details click into place.

Sean Boyd

Hear that Maryam? Killing for gain is BAD!


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