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Chapter 75

🕑 Added 2025-01-24 05:00:04 +0000 UTC

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Kingbob

Hesitation was surrender, so Angharad took a step. maybe my favorite line this chapter. so good.

Aguido Horatio Davis

Implied but never outright thought in so many words by Angharad: the Thirteenth are her friends, and of course she is going to walk right over the corpses of anything that stops her from keeping them alive and intact. The Watch is her home and the home of her uncle and her friends, and of course she is going to walk right over the incinerated ashes of anything that stops her from keeping faith with it. Those, she appears to have finally figured out, are the oaths that matter. Good.

Nathan Fish

which made it all the more unacceptable that Angharad s//was/ failing to use that very knowledge to keep her benefactor alive. And they had a priestess with them, one who could draw on her patron s//for/ at least one dangerous trick. that last s/pushed/push/ had pulled painfully on her leg, and she could do nothing but stand there and take the pain.

Nathan Fish

I don't *think* the copies can communicate with each other, they can just tell when they are being simulated vs in meatspace. Thus why Angharad had to tell them which iteration they were in, in order to get different results.

Devin Armstrong

Yes, we know they can, as Angharad herself received one back on the Dominion, from the peafowl God

General Corteau

If this is true, then doesn't Lucifer have basically eternity to experiment with his immediate surroundings in any layer he wants? e.g. eternity to understand the secrets of infernal forges, etc. etc.

Joseph

If that’s so that means there’s a lucifer that’s aware in the layers of scholomance.

sapassde .

Did that not already happen to Angharad in Book 1 with the bird mount god? EDIT: Reply to General Corteau

WaveySky

With the idea of conjurant actualization, I wonder if the world of the story is just another layer. Is it layers all the way down?

Morgan Whiting-Fawcett

I believe you can, although it's quite uncommon

A Total Sham

It’s possible. We’ve been told that a person can’t have two contracts because the two gods involved will eat them from the inside. But a boon is a permanent piece of a god, rather than a connection, so maybe?

A Total Sham

Sakkas also seemed to be self aware of his existence in a layer, and claimed that “time is largely a lie”. Another fascinating and odd quirk that old devils seem to have.

Kev G

The Fisher's boon is an insidious one. The Fisher demands excellence from his contractors, but the ability to "fish" for the best outcomes is such a powerful ability that it can lead to the contractor becoming complacent and overconfident. I wonder if the Fisher uses his contractors as the lures on his line to hunt for gods, with the threat being that if he finds them "crooked", he tosses them in his basket and looks for another.

Joe Rachman

Well even more so.

Joe Rachman

Oooh nice catch, he pretty much states it too calling her hero but I missed it.

Brendan Murphy

Hm, I can't say I expected this arc to end with Angharad on the throne of Asphodel but I wouldn't be disappointed either

TheLunaticCo

They are old devils, death is little more then an inconvenience to them, so I doubt they would prioritise their lives over a good story.

General Corteau

Saying this assuming “concurrent actualization” means that all hypothetical versions of yourself are connected and aware, and the self persists across hypotheticals and realtime.

General Corteau

I love the concepts of “concurrent actualization” and “conjecture” that Locke and Keys mention — at some point Angharad is going to be very surprised when every scenario she tests against a devil results in it learning just like she does, probably to her detriment.

General Corteau

Also consider that Angharad hails from a family of sailors and is saving the throne… she embodies every aspect of his godhood

General Corteau

If so maybe Angie will finally get a new power boost, not that she needs one.

General Corteau

Can one receive a boon from a god and yet be a contractor to another?

Pteromys Momonga

I wonder how long the Fisher's "trial" will last, and what will happen to Angharad's bones in the meantime. Maybe we'll eventually get a conversation where she tells the rest of the Thirteenth more about her god, prompting Fortuna to remind Tristan just how lucky he is to have her.

Mace

Queen shit.

Charles

Angharad's growth here was awesome from start to finish (and the Fisher just wanting her to live her best life was great as usual), but shout out to: “And now don’t you do it again,” he lectured, wagging his finger. This is both so hilarious but so horrifying in context. The dread duo are dreadful.

Draeysine

"No, what you have are bullets, and the hope that when your guns are empty I'm no longer standing, because if I am you'll all be dead before you've reloaded"

Andrew Duan

Yay Angie. Now you can rejoin the 13th fully untied in purpose. Plus you’re not a traitor anymore since you’re going to break into prison the old fashioned way. Leave the bargaining and back room deals to Tristan and song.

A Total Sham

I've figured out why Angharad meets Odorumai, and its perfect. Odorumai is not just the god of Asphodel and sailors, but is its god of Heroes. And what has Angharad done this chapter? Escaped her wicked captors, tricked ancient monsters, took revenge on those who had slighted her, reconciled her fears, and underwent character development. She literally could not be a more perfect hero for him, and so the endless minor prayers given by the population are inconsequential to the heroine of the hour, in the heart of his palace.

ppbrro

I dont think they would, it would be against their amusing seeking nature

Jacob Shpiece

It feels to me more like a joke about his Odyssey. Angharad wanders around, hopelessly lost, immediately kills the first people she meets, and then realizes that because she didn't ask for directions she's stuck wandering again. It feels like she summoned Oduromai by *reenactment*.

Jacob Shpiece

Fantastic payoff to the mentions that Lucifer was involved in the only escape from Tintavel.

Joseph

I love the skiritai saying that victory began with the death of your opponent and is traced back to where you stand.

Pedro Manoel Fabiano Alves Evangelista

What I really like is how EE writes about how eldritch they are, usually how their voices are intermingled with horrible ideas

TotallyHuman

“I want you to refrain from killing any member of the Watch for an hour,”. Locke and Keys did not bargain to be able to kill in defence so if Hage catches them within the hour they could find themselves in some trouble, though they may simply abandon the bargain if they find themselves in actual danger.

JD Wessinger

Finally I like Angharad, and that change can be no greater praise for the contrast to what she has been.

Pteromys Momonga

Considering how Oduromai addressed her, I think what she did counted as an act of heroism by Asphodel standards.

Pteromys Momonga

Now everyone has sacrificed something: Song has sacrificed the bargain the Yellow Earth offered, Tristan sacrificed his chance for vengeance and the assurance of being safe from the Nineteenth, Maryam sacrificed the chance to fix her signifying, and Angharad sacrificed the opportunity to get the Lefthand House's help. And while each sacrifice was painful, the paths the characters chose to take instead seem better for them in the long term - truer to who they want to be, even if the paths to becoming those people will be difficult. The members of the Thirteenth can't always get what they want, but they do seem closer to getting what they need.

EndlessTurtle

I love the character progression in this chapter

Emmet Mackle

God of sailors and heroes and patron of Asphodel, its throne in particular.

Darryl Greensill

Or buying off some of her starting disadvantages (Pride, Arrogance, Code of Conduct) that she had to take to get to be so OP at combat!

Joe Rachman

Victory against the odds maybe?

Madeleine D

OORAH BABEYYY

Darryl Greensill

Savescumming her way through a fight she’s two levels too low for, love it :) The others are all great too but Angharad is my favourite. Love the “path to victory” easter egg too.

Betafishy

It’s utterly hilarious how Angharad became such the embodiment of ‘being lost’ that she became a “greater beacon than prayer” to God Odysseus. Probably the funniest thing I’ve caught in Pale Lights yet!

Ryu

What is Oduromai the god of again? Maryam buried her ambition to save the life of another, and thus she became bane for The Hated One, a god of killing for gains. I am trying to figure out what Angie became a beacon of, to attract Oduromai like that…

Runaway_Cactuar

If this was a game, it'd be like watching Anghie dumping all her free points on WIS and INT in a single chapter lol

ICN

Sometimes, this story can really stretch my suspension of disbelief. I mean, a student actually internalizing something they were taught? Pure fantasy.

Trekkie Monster

Ideals are bullet proof.

Muirenn Andréa Mc Mahon

Let's fucking gooo!!! Love seeing the Fisher too.

aquaeus

Angharad Tredegar: diplomat, negotiator and spy par excellence. The sword hand is just gravy

Hal Victorious

Sometimes I forget just how elegantly concise you are in writing fights. It really emphasises the moment and its brutal brevity to read a death in so few words.

Peter Reithmaier

*Insert the astronaut meme here* always has been

Peter Reithmaier

Thanks for the chapter! Man I always love the scenes when Angharad talks to the Fisher, he's so horrifingly cool.

Machalt

Angharad has finally stopped the hypocritical rationalizing and just embraces the inner murderhobo. She's still my least favorite viewpoint character*, but the gap is closing. (*least favorite doesn't mean that I don't like her as a character, I just find myself yelling at the screen whenever she's the viewpoint. Being invested means good character, if aggravating

sapassde .

It's really great to watch the 13th become better versions of themselves, and if a certain engineer joins them he'll have had that scene too. Can't wait to properly see them working together as a group and learning how to work that out while filling their brigade.

Ezekiel

Amazing chapter after an amazing chapter ahhhhhh

StrollingEye

Such a good chapter. The strongest line to me on re-read was that "She did not like the girl she was being right now, so Angharad Tredegar killed her and became another."

joie01

the payoff chapter of a lifetime holy moly. finally. all of angy's hypocrisy ripped away and it is beautiful to watch. nahh this shit is cinema thanks boss

Joe Rachman

Well Angharad is becoming terrifying

Jakob

Thanks for the chapter!


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