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Epilogue

🕑 Added 2025-02-21 05:00:02 +0000 UTC

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Jecherio

I didn't realize that. Nice Catch!

Jacob Burton-Edwards

100%. Or 0%. Depends on how Fortuna is feeling.

Sean Shivers

Oh come now, what are the odds of that?

Betafishy

Wait a minute, reading last book’s epilogue, we see that Lord Asher wanted to confirm if the Fisher was a second-order entity, but was denied by Osian as Angharad’s sponsor — was her and his loyalty test a way to get her into a disadvantageous position so she could be truth-telled into giving up her god? Damn, Krypteia scary indeed.

Clément Lanteigne

Angharad is the best protagonists to face truth telling. As a proud Pereduri noble she has experience dancing around lies and weilding technicalities.

Poop McScoop

They could end up killing Scholomance.

Pordgy

Hahaha hahaha 'a relatively quiet year' :') Good luck, Thirteenth - y'all're gonna find some weird-ass shit

Devin Armstrong

Locke and Keys are Kairos come again! They are going to be some of the most entertaining characters here for sure

Joe Rachman

Didn't EE shrug at the question of gods and men procreating... I wonder if that made it into the Iscariot Accords

Clément Lanteigne

Professor He said, raising s/her/their/ hands, As far s//as/her time on Asphodel is otherwise concerned the Name-Eater said, placing a s/head/palm/ over her heart

FaronAan

Nereus is a figure in Greek myth who was the eldest son of Gaia and Pontus. Homer called him "The Old Man of the Sea" and he could shapeshift and had prophetic abilities. He also had 50 daughters and is funnily enough, only relevant because he is the father of his daughters.

Tristan A

Ahhh, you're right. I wasn't really thinking of them though because they are rankings. Like because obviously Captain, General, Sargeant, all of that are transfers. I'm more of thinking in terms of Lucifer is not just a coincidental name transfer. His entire backstory seems to have been transferred over.

ppbrro

Who?

ppbrro

So literal daughters of a god or symbolically? And does the distinction even really matter

Markos El-Far

He loves putting himself in situations where his career and body may just barely survive

Calico

"quiet year" yeaaa suuuure

Clément Lanteigne

I was doubtful that Song would pass her loyalty test, but it looks like she shared the dirt she had on Gao with the Watch, after securing his collaboration with the Royalists issue. Hopefully that deal doesn't get blown by another blackcloak pushing Gao too far.

Markos El-Far

Principality sounds like Angel. This is gonna be fun!!

Nathan Fish

Pirates used to feed s/sacrificed/sacrifices/ to storm gods by throwing them down at the rocks through there. expect our influence over Asphodel will rise to a height it has not known s//in/ over a century, Adding to that how the Thirteenth was sent on s/tis/its/ test before it had time to get properly taught This cannot be called anything s//other/ than a concern. It appears that there was s//a/ leak from our records on the matter of Abrascal’s contract but they were not uncontrollably violent when we encountered s//them/ on Asphodel. for Lord Asher to s/despite/despise/ them so openly.

Mark W

And while the same argument is made, the basis is different. In the first book Tristan failed by normal routine standards but wildly succeeded by mask standards. Here the 13th passed by expected standards (no trainee cabal could be expected to fix what an entire garrison and three other cabals entirely missed on), but failed by mask standards (did things get fucked up on your watch, no matter how unfair the situation was?). I wonder how the 11th faired. They found out useful information but the 13th did their cabals work. Meanwhile tupocs did exactly what it was told to do, and even picked up a second contract, them failing because the garrison shit the bed would be exactly the kinda unfair example of failing the 13th and applying that standard to the rest.

Joseph

The seven year of truth telling contracts with the five years of probation under mere suspicion are very harsh when in combination with each other. All the four were broke the laws but were not made to confirm their actions under oath for antagonistic parties that would try killing them without such easy lay up. It’s like a human right they have taken from her. In retrospect osian was a commander that could have gone higher, what he did was unforgivable, he didn’t even leave himself a way out like a letter to the watch that somehow didn’t arrive in time or said that he didn’t believe the infernal forge wasn’t one like the brigadier did.

Joe Rachman

Eventually the Watch will realise putting Tristan in the middle of potentially calamitous situations escalates them and will start tactically posting him in areas they want disaster to befall

Poop McScoop

Izel's test was the Ivory Library.

Jacob Burton-Edwards

Tristan truly is a blursed man.

Jacob Burton-Edwards

Tristan and Maryam's love language appears to be penetrating huge, pulsating gods with long, thick rods, so any bets on how far down under the tower holding up the Grand Orrey the body of the god they'll penetrate this time is?

Jacob Burton-Edwards

Bishops and Archbishops are also hard transfers, at least of words, as is Solomon (from Solomonterra). Everything about darklings seems to have been ripped straight from real-world Christianity, which is interesting to say the least.

andrew marturano

looks like we're going to find out why scholomance was closed down next book

Ryu

My heart always goes out to Song whenever I see even someone high up in an organization as collectivistic as the Watch so prejudiced against her, only for bearing the name Ren. The sheer fucking unfairness of it. She really deserves better. I just want to see the whole Thirteenth getting glazed, I think

Arlen

wen is indeed the best. still love how he solved that situation with rens professor

Bog Frog

We had been told that someone on the obscure committee had it out for Song back when Wen was introduced as brigade patron. In the last epilogue Fenhua He was wearing Jigong fashion, so the implication was obvious. And now it is confirmed that they are from Jigong. So it seems a safe bet that they are the committee member intent on sabotaging Song. It is also interesting how Fenhua became coldly furious at Wen for defending Song. Perhaps it is partly because Wen is a Tianxi, and a Tianxi defending a Ren is like treason in their eyes.

Musclerelaxant

Wen called Hage a “transaction fiend” - didn’t realise it before but he must feed on transactions as a devil, which is why he runs a shop, rents out equipment at extortionate rates, and underpays Tristan!! Fascinating to put that together, and the Locke and Key reveal was delicious too. Thank you for the book EE!

Hav3n

Last line is a nice throwback to epilogue of book 1. It’s gonna be a total shitshow

Pteromys Momonga

And Asher, whatever his faults, is consistent enough to agree. Devils like their details, it seems.

Joe Rachman

I wonder if Tristan is far gone enough after brushing sainthood that he starts to find Abuela's presence grating...

Pteromys Momonga

That's a really interesting question, because Fortuna has always hidden from Nerei and it's been implied that Nerei might not know the full extent of Tristan's contract. She's a heresiarch, which seems to be the opposite of a Saint ("discordant" rather than "harmonious"), and Tristan isn't exactly a Saint but functions similarly, being both high priest and temple to his goddess. I'll be very curious to see Tristan's next talk with Abuela.

Joe Rachman

Exactly

PoiDess

I really love how Wen's reaction to Nerei contrasts with Osian's. IE, when faced with a living horror spewing your deepest secrets, Wen's reaction is "Eh fuck it we ball". When faced with an officer who outranks him and is a vicious veteran, "Eh, Would."

Tristan A

Also if I remember correctly most of the the countries believe in some sort of sleeping god, as like the actual God, whereas all the other gods are made through belief.

Pteromys Momonga

I think the "Nereus" equivalent is the Changing King who Nerei devoured, and the "daughters" were Nerei and the rest of the fifty servants she mentioned in Chapter 4. Her laughter and "he would have hated that" (presumably his name has been forgotten because she ate it) seem to line up.

Tristan A

I don't think that was ever said that the Antediluvians made the devils. I might be wrong though. I mean we for sure just got confirmed that Lucifer made the devils in this chapter. I think maybe it was said that they unearthed them but I'm not certain.

Joe Rachman

Whose the god then? We know the Antediluvians made devils and seem god-like...

Joe Rachman

-Prof He confirmed as Jigong survivor and determined to sink Song.

Pteromys Momonga

Some interesting stuff! We have confirmation that Wen isn't a Mask, and some tantalizing hints about Tariac (human sacrifices and internal discipline). The Ivory Library being led by Peiling members isn't particularly surprising, and lines up with Professor He being interested in Angharad (probably related to her contract). It certainly looks like Brigadier Laghari is involved with the Ivory Library, though my guess is that she took a bribe and leaked them the information to spite Nerei; she doesn't strike me as someone who would be a core member. We'll see if that means they'll leave Tristan alone next time. Lastly, Song apparently passed her loyalty test, so it looks like Maryam is the only Thirteenth member who hasn't had one so far - along with Izel, possibly. So excited to explore the secrets of Tolomontera next time!

Tristan A

Ha, quiet my ass. TYFTC! I like reading Wen, he's not crazy spectacular in any sense, he's just solid. Kind of reminds me of Nanami from JJK and characters like that. Man I can't wait to find out what the Lightbringer/Lucifer is. I mean considering Lucifer and Hell are the only hard transfers from our own world, I wonder if he's one of the creations of this worlds original "God". Hmm and then you have the Principalities, I wonder if they're angels or like Lucifers brothers. Other "fallen" angels maybe? Idk, I don't know anything, 😭😭 please tell me I can keep a secret.

Noble Solana-Walkinshaw

“It was Brigadier Laghari who broke the silence, that hard face scowling. The Someshwari looked like she’d fought several thorny brambles to a draw and spent the following decade bulking up in preparation for her revenge. If they met strangers in a tavern, he would have bought her a drink and tried his luck.” God I love Wen. What excellent writing

Joe Rachman

Juicy elements in no particular order: -Wen's disgrace in Tariac is linked to taking action against human sacrifce and in doing so earning the hatred of some very powerful free companies. Perhaps in going after it recklessly he hurt their interests? Or maybe the free companies were somehow implicated in it? -Nerei was a Nereid, a "daughter" of a shapeshifting god. In Greek mythology Nereus was the son of Gaia and Pontus (the ocean) - he seems to overlap a bit with Proteus - sea god, famous shapeshifter (where we get the word protean) and an oracle. The Nereids are supposed to be his beautiful and kind daughters who helped heroes - with the most notable being Thetis the mother of Achilles. This being EE though I'm expecting a series of horrid twists on this though. Given Name-Eater's love of human flesh perhaps the Nereids here are closer to the Sirens who lured sailors to thei deaths and fed on them. -More detail confirming what Angharad learned in the layer. The defeat of Hell's forces was linked to some key devils - figures like Asher and maybe Hage turning traitor for whatever reason. -There's some vast shadowy conspiracy that both the Watch and Hell oppose, which is quite something. If they go back that far are they perhaps linked to the old Sunless House conspiracy that brought down the Second Empire and plunged huge areas into Gloam? Please share any extra thoughts or details you guys have on this, or other stuff that's being set up as a plot thread or cool bit of lore.

Miles Zheng

It’s interesting that Wen made the same argument about letting Tristan pass that Asher did in the previous epilogue

Machalt

"Only if Wen was to be roasted it’d be as goose instead of a rooster – you ended up on the same plate, but the goose got to be an asshole first." Wen is the best character every time

Hollow35

"They could do with a quiet year" which is why they definitely won't get one.

Avery Cortell

Oh, poor Wen Duan, don't thank the devil... we all know it's going to be just as bad as Asphodel

Arvid Viaene

Thank you for the chapter and the book. It was marvelleous!

joie01

thank you wen duan. my goat. my hero

FaronAan

Bruh she's Nerei "name eater, " shapeshifts, and is the last of 50. Idk how I didn't put together her father is Nereus

sapassde .

I guess on their next text we'll be seeing Sakkas again then, or Tolomontera's big overhead structure will fall apart.

Ranger Science

Heheheh. That’s just baiting for an even bigger mess, particularly with Tristan in the mix. Ahh, it’s going to be *good*.

Joe Rachman

What a number of plot threads lined up there. Also it seems that book ending with committee meeting that primes a ham-fistedly ironic Chekov gun by going surely the 13th won't run into trouble there is now a leitmotif of Pale Lights... Did the 13th not report Tristan's status and how he's blessed/cursed to end up in wildly improbable high stakes scenarios?


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